Game Overthinker: "Building A Better Gamer"

PhunkyPhazon

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Yeah, watching that first video...no. Look, he's got some good points, but if you get divorced because you spend too much time playing games, it's your own fault. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but pinning your own incompetence on something else just gets under my skin.
 

Bloodysoldier

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This reminds me of an old topic I made long ago. And it holds strong today, so I will give the link to all. Oh sorry I have not read any other post except the first one.

http://www.gamerdna.com/showthread.php?t=29130


I'll read the other post when I wake tomorrow and may respond.

P.S. first post ever on this site, PARTY!!!
 

SkullCap

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PhunkyPhazon said:
Yeah, watching that first video...no. Look, he's got some good points, but if you get divorced because you spend too much time playing games, it's your own fault. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but pinning your own incompetence on something else just gets under my skin.
At least your comment doesn't revert to the appalling comments/insults that are posted on Destructoid.com

He blames himself and his bad time management. Follow this link.

http://screwattack.com/videos/The-Only-Response-I-Know
 

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I don't think that everything he says applies to every gamer, and you shouldn't take things personally. I really agree with everything he says, but I think that the change he's talking about is up to every gamer to decide how much the want to change. But I definately think he's spot on when it come to the behaviour part, That's not a choice, at least not to me, to miss-quote Bob: "common fucking decency is not that hard!" If you're like that kid he uses as an example, you need to learn some fucking courtesy and common decency! but hopefully none of the Escapsit members are like this, and if you are, please take this personally!
[sub]there's probably only one of you anyway[/sub]
 

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Phenom828 said:
I don't think that everything he says applies to every gamer, and you shouldn't take things personally. I really agree with everything he says, but I think that the change he's talking about is up to every gamer to decide how much the want to change. But I definately think he's spot on when it come to the behaviour part, That's not a choice, at least not to me, to miss-quote Bob: "common fucking decency is not that hard!" If you're like that kid he uses as an example, you need to learn some fucking courtesy and common decency! but hopefully none of the Escapsit members are like this, and if you are, please take this personally!
[sub]there's probably only one of you anyway[/sub]
I agree concerning the overreacting comments from many forum trolls and childish gamers. I hold a special loathing in my heart for several annoyances in the world including PETA (the organization), Political Correctness, and the disrespectful online gamers. You and me both know they give gamers a bad name.

Destructoid still takes the crown for the worst comments on The Only Thing I Know.

http://www.destructoid.com/the-only-thing-i-know--164583.phtml
 

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he made some good points but i felt he was targitting xbox live. not all the player are like that only a very few. i also felt the peranting should have been brought up on the case of the kid behover also playing online dose not make people do that there must have been other reasons that should of been taken into acount
 

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Tenmar said:
Okay I'm back and ready for more because as I said before this hits a lot closer to home than most people would care to think about and a little hard truth telling putting any dissenters into place is a good thing.

HG131 said:
Second, what if I don't WANT to read books by certain authors? What if I don't care who writes a book at all, just if it's good or not?.
As for books, well we all don't have the same taste and while you won't see me reading Sarah Palin's latest book Going Rogue, you will certainly find me at least trying to read Sam Tanenhaus's book Death of Conservatism and Ted Kennedy's Auto-biography and I'm a republican. The point is HG131 is about going beyond gaming as a hobby, to be more than simply saying "I'm a gamer" which has been so watered down but I'll go into that a bit later. It's about being able to identify yourself than more than one simple hobby and knowing that when push comes to shove you like in video games are able to adapt, learn, rationalize and level up.

I spent a good majority of my 4 year college experience just playing video games, I even had to change my major from Japanese to History because I screwed up and decided leading a raid was more important than practicing daily vocabulary terms. I still graduated but then I had another problem, the job market for history majors and if anything any job looking for students with B.A.'s was and still is very small because subjects like History deal with the abstract and do not physically produce a good or service in a consumption based society. So I've had a real pain in the arse time actually finding a job in anything even retail despite my fours years work experience finding employment. So the only thing I realized that if I like computers so much I should try to branch out and learn some new skills.

Since graduating I've tried to learn many different programs down to even having the tools. I've studied adobe Premiere elements and learn how to edit movies. I god Pro tools and even a microphone set up and have read books on how to do sound editing(in retrospect just getting a USB microphone instead of an XLR with a USB preamplifier is actually a lot better if doing PC recording and audio editing. USB microphones can use more programs than being stuck with Pro tools) and now I'm currently trying to open a new career path by getting my CompTIA A+ cert and getting more certifications on repairing and building computers. I already know how but I never studied the terminology but it is a trade skill that involves problem solving and is a physical product that I can use for myself and potential employment.

Tell me what does playing video games get you on your resume? Oh I know, nothing.

In a damn hard american employment market it is literally a free-for-all and if you aren't the best, you are the worst. I paid my way through college getting average grades and working customer service all the way through and volunteering and it is damn hard for employers to take me seriously when an honor's student who got an internship learning the ropes because mommy and daddy paid their way through college doesn't have to be trained in the industry like myself. They are already taught how to apply their skills into a physical form where someone like myself stuck to writing research papers that were judged mediocre and wasn't published in a magazine.

EDIT: Also when you are an adult and meant to pay the bills how much does playing video games get you? Nothing.

EDIT 2: Ya know what since you want to be such the nihilist I'm not even going to bother with the rest of my rant because it appears you are so dead set on thinking that having such a small and insignificant network is actually good for your social life and your work life that you aren't going to head the words of an elder who is currently going through hades.

So just don't say that I didn't warn you on the harm you are actually inflicting upon yourself and your future.
I think you're maybe being a bit over-dramatic.

Having said that though you've made some good points and I must say in all sencerity, good on you for trying different things and looking for a way out. Unfortunately you will not touch the twelve your old that you're talking to. If he's older he isn't acting like it. To back you up I'll say good luck in the real world to that guy also. I don't really know why I responded to this post, I guess I just wanted to congratulate you on your pesimistic yet real look at the world and your ability to pull yourself out of your rut, if you aren't getting the benifits yet keep at it anyway because you'll find your way.

Right I'll stop being some creepy guy now and move on. Now i'll watch that video
 

Beldaros

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It disturbs me that people actually spend all their time on a game. Guess what these two guys are right, maybe the first video was a bit extreme but still he's right. If you spend ALL of your time gaming you need to really look at yourselves. Personally I have a lot of other hobbies and I walk or cycle everywhere. Gaming in moderation plus the occasional binge is the way to go, not a constant binge. Guess what as well, I've read books by all those authors, some weren't really worth it. I've seen the majority of those films and I do not stand a chance on MW2. You know what I'm proud of that.

I'm glad somebody in the medium that gamers know and trust is saying this, maybe it'll make a difference, though I doubt it. Don't alienate your friends and family because I bet they don't turn their backs on you so easily. OP you are a good man/woman for posting this. Well there's my two cents take it or scream at me about it.
 

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If MovieBob didn't take such a condescending tone it would've made for a better video. I felt like he was violently going after a stereotype that I personally don't fit in, nor do any of the people I know in real life.
I'm guessing he made the video because he realized he fit the profile himself, so he needed to make a video about it to reassure himself on the correct path to take. Which would explain why he's so overly aggressive in the video.

The first video was good. I had a point in my life where I looked back, realized how wrong my direction in life was and set better priorities for myself. I think everyone has times like that at least once in their life. It's a shame that it took the maker so long before he did. He could've avoided losing everything if he did.

The problem with both videos is that the people that end up watching the whole thing don't fit the target audience, as they're probably too busy gaming. A point that has been brought up several times in this thread already, and one that holds true.
 

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Good to see an adonis like movie bob dispensing his tips for a healthy lifestyle, otherwise a fairly dull video.
 

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Hopeless Bastard said:
I'm going to skip everything and just go straight to the point: Stupid games make stupid gamers. Now that gaming is mainstream, new games and new gamers will be stupid. Many, many, many people have tried to lift the average person from the festering pile of shit they willingly occupy, the average person responds with accusations of arrogance and the old standby, "whats wrong with having fun??"

Everyone in the entertainment industry has figured its a lot easier and more profitable to maintain a level of mediocrity than to attempt anything of any worth. Yelling at the average person won't change this. But improving the medium won't change anything either. If media begins making the average person feel stupid, the average person will just fall to other ways to have mindless "fun." Drugs, parties, pornography, and (if they're able) fucking.
This. Just summed up my thoughts pretty well and it rather echoes my frustrations at how mainstream gaming has become. Or rather, what's happened to it since it has.

And I agree with what someone said before me, that the vast majority of the gamers I know - myself included - don't fit into the stereotype.