Steam IS DRM.rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
By this logic, you should delete all your games on Steam and never use your account again.
Steam IS DRM.rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
Frostbite3789 said:Bought a game on Steam. Didn't know it had DRM. I mean, I know this is completely different DRM...but you bought a game on Steam. And didn't realize it has DRM. Think about that statement for a bit.rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
I think you are being obtuse on purpose. Yes steam itself is DRM but it is upfront about the whole thing and the chains rest very lightly.Denamic said:Steam IS DRM.rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
By this logic, you should delete all your games on Steam and never use your account again.
I'm a hobbyist developer and I want to work in mostly 2D. Unity is a butt for doing anything sprite based since (unless something changed in 4) you still have to create your colliders and meshes in 3d space, lock everything to the proper axes...etc etc etc. Even something simple like having a sprite change direction is agonizing. I had to make 2 different versions of each sprite and replace it at each direction change since I didn't find any way to just say "flip horizontal". Honestly I don't know Unity that well so there is probably a better way to do it but that was way too much work for what I wanted to do.gardian06 said:you bought it? you wanted to make a doom clone that bad? and now you want a refund from MF STEAM? (I can tell you their answer right now: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!)rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
Why does gameMaker still have a pay for version? it just doesn't make sense the pay for version of GM was never that much more impressive then the free version. what did they finally allow you to introduce real models into the engine (considering that the word sprite was still thrown around in the article my guess is no.
The only reason I buy from steam (and I've spent thousands of dollars probably) is because I know that on the off chance Valve decides to pull a dick move and lock my account I can go to gamecopyworld or piratebay and retrieve any of my "property" that they decided I couldn't have. If I didn't have that option then I would only ever buy retail where I have a disk and I can re-install anytime.Absolutionis said:It's strange that you'd find this on Steam.rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
I've always seen Steam itself as a form of very customer-friendly DRM in itself.
It's terribly obtrusive for them to put GM on Steam and then another layer of user-data-rewriting DRM on top of that.
No, we're not.rembrandtqeinstein said:I think you are being obtuse on purpose. Yes steam itself is DRM but it is upfront about the whole thing and the chains rest very lightly.
What I meant when I said DRM was "customer fucking code". As far as I can tell Steam is not customer fucking code, and that is what this developer put into his application.
You know Yahtzee's newest game was made in Game Maker, right? It's not just for Doom clones.gardian06 said:you bought it? you wanted to make a doom clone that bad? and now you want a refund from MF STEAM? (I can tell you their answer right now: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!)rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
I loled hard core at both the illustration, and these supposed e-mails. no evidence needed (considering ease of fake)Scrythe said:You know Yahtzee's newest game was made in Game Maker, right? It's not just for Doom clones.gardian06 said:you bought it? you wanted to make a doom clone that bad? and now you want a refund from MF STEAM? (I can tell you their answer right now: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!)rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
Also, I've been able to get refunds on Steams. Granted, they were very extreme circumstances, but it's possible.
I find it amusing that each time it happened, they send me an email explaining that they do not do refunds, along with a copypasted clip from their TOS in the same email that tells me they refunded the amount straight back into my bank account. I almost imagine a gas station clerk handing over a pack of cigarettes to the customer who requested it, while saying "We do not sell cigarettes in this establishment. Have a nice day."
Spelunky was made in GameMaker as well, the PC version anyway - but look at it now, doing pretty well on XBL. No offense to Yahtzee, but people have made some really pretty and clever games with GM, that would make his games look medieval in comparisonScrythe said:You know Yahtzee's newest game was made in Game Maker, right? It's not just for Doom clones.gardian06 said:you bought it? you wanted to make a doom clone that bad? and now you want a refund from MF STEAM? (I can tell you their answer right now: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!)rembrandtqeinstein said:Rofl...I just bought that on steam sale, and now I'm going to ask for a refund because I didn't know it had DRM in it.
Also, I've been able to get refunds on Steams. Granted, they were very extreme circumstances, but it's possible.
I find it amusing that each time it happened, they send me an email explaining that they do not do refunds, along with a copypasted clip from their TOS in the same email that tells me they refunded the amount straight back into my bank account. I almost imagine a gas station clerk handing over a pack of cigarettes to the customer who requested it, while saying "We do not sell cigarettes in this establishment. Have a nice day."