And on that, I can agree.keinechance said:I see it this way:wintercoat said:Well considering the majority of work places have designated smoking areas, there should be no problem. If you're a non-smoker in a smoking area, you chose to stand in the smoking area rather than in a non-smoking area. We're both being inconvenienced. You, by choosing to stand where it would be bothersome for you, and the smoker because they choose to have a cigarette on their break and are therefor restricted to a small area.keinechance said:If they are "appearing" just to bother you, than I absolutely agree with you.wintercoat said:And if I'm by myself smoking, and a non-smoker appears, I am not obligated to stop smoking because they might be bothered.keinechance said:Correct, if there is no non-smoker around when you smoke, you are not bothering anyone.wintercoat said:Last I checked, a smoker standing by themselves isn't bothering anyone.keinechance said:So...don't smoke when there are non-smokers around, and no one will bother you.wintercoat said:So...don't walk up to them and put yourself in a position to be bothered by them maybe?keinechance said:Not being randomly bothered by smokers has a high priority to me.wintercoat said:No, not being randomly bothered by strangers has a higher priority to me. Get off your high horse.keinechance said:Since you have demonstrated that nicotine has a higher priority for you than humans, I wouldn't waste my time pushing the issue.wintercoat said:And if I told you, politely, no, and please don't ask again, would you push the issue?keinechance said:You are correct, it is legal, but it is still not very considerate of your fellow humans.wintercoat said:Being that smoking is perfectly legal, other's 'distaste' is irrelevant in a public area that allows smoking. The smoker has as much right as the non-smoker to be there. The smoker isn't causing a problem, the people who make it an issue are.keinechance said:You are taking an action that some people find distasteful.Baneat said:Good job snipping the important point of the post. I'm not standing in front of people and blowing smoke in their direction. I'm standing outside with plenty of free space blowing upwards and standing away from a bus stop if others are on it. I deliberately don't draw smoke from the cigarette if I'm passing children on the street. You have absolutely no right to complain, and if you fart in my face you're just a dick, there's no involvement of rights in the equation.keinechance said:Does that also go for you when I fart in your face?Baneat said:Don't stand in my way if it bothers you. [..]keinechance said:I agree, if you agree that your freedom to smoke stops at blowing your smoke into my face.Nihilanth said:Yeah, I know. I've never bought onto this need to bully smokers. It's exactly their choice, and their right, to do what they want with their own lives. The disgust these forumites are expressing are ridiculously over the top; this is the type of irrational hatred our country needs to protect our minorities from, even minorities like smokers who are unfashionable to defend.Baneat said:Good luck. I believe there are smoke break regulations that allow employees them by law but no such thing for a nintendo DS.Spartan1362 said:You should have kept doing it anyway, then sued when he/she fired you.
Smokers get more than enough shit already, people here have seriously suggested banning smoking in one's own home (I thought they were making a reductio ad absurdum argument against the smoking bans at first). Leave Britney alone.
If you are smoking in private then I don't have a problem with that, just like I said before.
But if you are smoking when others are present, and they don't like it, then you are bothering them, even if you "don't go out of your way to annoy people".
And if your response to that is "Don't stand in my way if it bothers you." then you are acting antisocial.
If no one else is present when you smoke, than no one stands in the way of your smoking.
So the question is, if someone asks you, politely, to stop smoking, will you do it?
But if you are standing 3 meters away from a non-smoker while smoking, than you are not by yourself.
If they "have" to be there, because they have to work there for example, then I would disagree with you.
However, outside of work, say, at a bus stop, if the smoker is waiting for the bus and is having a cigarette, they are not obligated to stop smoking if a non-smoker arrives.
Also, just to let it be known, I quit smoking 2 years ago. Those people who make a show out of their dislike for smokers are worse than any smoker I've ever known. How do you come to the conclusion that harassment and being a nuisance is the proper way to go about things? I get that some people are just dicks, but becoming more of an annoyance than the smoker isn't exactly smart.(not targeted at you, just a general gripe)
A smoker has the legal right to smoke in a public area. ( Annoying the non-smoker )
A non-smoker has the legal right to complain that the smoker is polluting the air in a public area. ( Annoying the smoker )
Take that for what you will.