If people talked on forums as if they were Elcor there'd be a lot less heat over playful-jabs being mistaken for personal insults. & if all the trolls left but that's a different issue.Twenty Ninjas said:Sorry if I detracted from the casual conversation. I like to think about it.Elberik said:I did not mean that games are just fun. What I meant was that games are just fun. Did you not read the OP? you're thinking about it too much.Twenty Ninjas said:Speaking generally now: "Games are just fun" is an opinion that is wrooooooooong. The stubborn refusal of people to perceive games as anything else but vessels for instant gratification is the cancer that is keeping us from having nice things.
edit: slight change in tone to not sound so antagonistic
I completely agree with this post. Fun isn't all there is to video gaming. There are plenty of other emotions in the process that we experience when we play them.Twenty Ninjas said:That's a narrow way of looking at it. How do you define fun? Do you mean that a game should be fun, or that you should have fun playing it? What about satisfaction, emotion, excitement, horror, empathy, sadness, enlightenment, and all those feelings that can be positive in the right light? Like guilt, despair, and the build-up brought on by difficulty. What about the release experienced through the contrast of one negative feeling designed to emphasize the later positive one? What about relaxation? Melancholy? Nostalgia? Curiosity, experimentation, discovery?Johnny Novgorod said:I don't know if they're "just" for fun but they should at least be fun.
Speaking generally now: "Games are just fun" is an opinion that is wrooooooooong. The stubborn refusal of people to perceive games as anything else but vessels for instant gratification is the cancer that is keeping us from having nice things.
Game I had the most fun playing - can't rightly say. There's a whole lot of'em. And how do you define fun? Maybe it's the feeling of discovery and experimentation, like Baldur's Gate 2. Maybe it's the moment-to-moment gratification, like Red Alert 2. Or maybe it's just the satisfaction of beating a challenge, like Dark Souls. Or perhaps the joy of choice and immersion, like Deus Ex. The fun of working towards a goal, like Diablo 2?
Yeah, I can go on. But you get the idea. "fun" is a narrow-ass term.
read the post above this one.Elberik said:I am so sorry to hear that. Incidentally, what are you doing here?Julius Terrell said:I don't play games for fun so I can't answer this question.
You seem to be under the impression that I said games should not be anything other than fun. The OP asked people to talk about games that, for them, were just fun to play.Julius Terrell said:read the post above this one.Elberik said:I am so sorry to hear that. Incidentally, what are you doing here?Julius Terrell said:I don't play games for fun so I can't answer this question.