Games as the ultimate medium.

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Kuckles

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I found myself thinking philisofic thought more and more, especially about games and gaming as an art form. This might have something to do with the fact I've been watching Extra Credits a lot lately. And while I was lost in my thoughts, I came across the idea that in fact, games are the ultimate medium. So I though, why not dump it here, to see if there are any like minded people around.

Now you might think "how the hell are games the ultimate medium?". Well let me explain. Games, or at least the good ones, consist of many different thing all wrapt into one experience. They have the immersion into a gripping storyline a good book can give you. They have the hart-racing action that an exiting movie has. The climatic moment that a compelling storyline can build towards, that leaves you thinking about things you never thought about before. But most importantly they take all that, all the things books and movies have, and make you experience it through interaction. Unlike a book or a movie, you are in control. A movie is completely dotted out, you can't change the ending, neither do you ever feel you could. But a game, even a strictly linear one can make you feel in control of the story. It's not just the character that progresses, you do too.

I find that some games draw me in so much, that not only do I not want to stop playing it, when I'm not playing it, I'm thinking about what could happen next. Even after it has ended.
Sure this is achieved by books and movies too, but it's not your story that you are thinking about, it's the writer or directors story. But a game, much more than any other medium, gives the player a sense that the story he just experienced, was his own.

Now I ask you guys, The ecapist community, do you agree? Or do you find that I'm just talking rubbish? All comments are welcome, with the slight exeption of those along the lines of "You suck" or "go f*ck yourself".
 

Onyx Oblivion

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Dude, this is the Escapist.

Home of Bioware and Valve fanboys.

You are going to get agreed with a thousand times.

I agree, too. Although I tend to get more immersed in games without a focus on player choice more than ones with choice. I find myself talking like Niko Bellic after a few hours of GTA4.

Because I'm always second guessing myself and reloading my saves in WRPGs.
 

Blue_vision

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Games are quite an interesting medium with a lot going for them as an art form in the future, but I wouldn't call them "the ultimate medium."

You can still get a much better straight narrative going through a movie than you can a game, and while a game can have just as good a narrative as a movie, it'll usually be several times as long. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes you want to be able to enjoy a good story or string of action sequences in less than 3 hours, in which a movie is better.

Sometimes you just want to be able to relax and enjoy the power and richness of words, in which case literature is superior. I certainly get times when I just want to sit down and read a good novel or book of poetry, and a game could never be able to emulate that experience.

As for music, it's again comparing apples to australia. A 10 hour experience vs a 5 minute one? Filled with emotion, often rich poetic lyrics, and a set of mechanics that have been instilled in the human mind since time immemorial, mind you.

And sometimes, it's just better to keep the viewer the viewer. Does the audience really need to get a say in what happens in Romeo and Juliet, or would it not it be better for them to be kept at an arm's length as they watch love run its full course? And better, it can create a much more easily joined and flowing story simply through film or literature than if you have gameplay going through it. The message of the art is much more easily achieved.

I'm not pounding on games here at all, but they certainly aren't the ultimate medium. I love games, but you can't hold any art medium above another in terms of how effective it is.
 

Aiden_the-Joker1

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I disagree. At this point in time I believe that there is no "Ultimate Medium" only that games, films and books each have their strong and weak points.
 

Smooth Operator

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I can't agree on ultimate medium, but they are on par with others no doubt.
I think nothing can be the "ultimate" like there is no "ultimate" car, there are simply different versions fulfilling different roles.

While movies are all about representation(you are simply a viewer), books are all about imagination(the entire world is built in your head), and games are about interaction(you are an integral part of the story and setting).
I sort of see these 3 in a perfect triangle, games inheriting the cinematic feel of movies and the immersive feel of books, then adding interaction to really put the observer in the middle of it all.
Can't see any one of them replace the other, they just form a perfect synergy of entertainment.
 

baddude1337

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Like Aiden_the-Joker1 said, no medium is superior over another. I can often become immersed in a good book much more than I can in a game.
 

TerranReaper

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I personally don't think games is the ultimate medium, as an ultimate medium would be subjective.