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Quantum Star

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I'm probably going to get flamed to hell just for mentioning it here, but Sonic 06. Fix the bugs, the game-breaking glitches, the bullshit story, the terrible voice acting, polish up the graphics, and make it feel more like an actual playable game.
 

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The Madman said:
Xangba said:
Restored Content Mod basically puts it what it was meant to be, there wasn't much past that.
If only. The Restored Content Mod only implements content that was, to some unfinished extent, already on the game disk and had already been worked on by the developers to some vague degree. Unfortunately modders, including those of the Restored Content Mod, quickly discovered references both in the game files as well as the cut dialogue and content that refers to entire segments that were never put on the disk; namely an entire planet named M7-48 and an overarching plot involving the GenoHaradan from the first Kotor among other smaller bits of content.

To their credit the people over at Deadly Stream who made the The Restored Content Mod are trying to put those back into the game as well in an upcoming mod, but they're more or less working from vague references and guesswork as opposed to the developers original intent. We'll never know fully what Obisidian's real intentions were.
You know what thinking back you're right, I hadn't played in so long I forgot that those weren't finished. I remember the plans for it and that's probably what made me remember wrong. Either way the mod does a great job, so I guess there's some other games I'd like to see get a do-over first, but yes you are right that'd be a good one.
 

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Quantum Star said:
I'm probably going to get flamed to hell just for mentioning it here, but Sonic 06. Fix the bugs, the game-breaking glitches, the bullshit story, the terrible voice acting, polish up the graphics, and make it feel more like an actual playable game.
I completely agree with this. As someone who grew up with Sonic games only to see the franchise butchered completely after Sonic Adventure 2, I would love to play another decent Sonic game again.
 

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Actually lack of t/d and scrapping k/d ratios were things i commended that game for. Theres already a billion killwhore ego rubbing games out there, this game took the high road and based points on what things needed doing. So someone like a medic could come out on top without firing.
Never mentioned anything about k/d ratios and like I mentioned countless times before the games release, the Battlefield games have t/d and it works just fine.

But yes, I guess they did take "the high road" and less then a month after release new copies were going for $20 on Amazon. The game failed and it failed for a reason.
 

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Tyrant55 said:
Quantum Star said:
I'm probably going to get flamed to hell just for mentioning it here, but Sonic 06. Fix the bugs, the game-breaking glitches, the bullshit story, the terrible voice acting, polish up the graphics, and make it feel more like an actual playable game.
I completely agree with this. As someone who grew up with Sonic games only to see the franchise butchered completely after Sonic Adventure 2, I would love to play another decent Sonic game again.
There are decent Sonic games again: Colors and Generations. But yeah, I'd really love to play a modern Sonic game that played like the Adventure games, but I doubt Sega would ever make that happen.
 

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OT: Mirror's Edge, so if they ever get around to that sequel it would be very welcome.
Ahh you beat me too it. Mirrors edge is a game that simply needed to be fleshed out and polished.
 

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Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Still a damned good game, especially with the community patches to smooth out the experience. One of my favourites even! But it just could have... *should* have been more. Oh what I'd give for more games like Bloodlines. In my ideal gaming world Bloodlines wouldn't need community patches and would have been shipped perfect, would have sold fantastically, and Troika would still be around making Arcanum and Bloodlines 2.

Knights of the Old Republic 2

If you're ever played this game with the Restored Content Mod you'll know what I mean when I say this game had the potential to not just be better than the first game, but to absolutely blow it away in nearly every regard. The gameplay was more diverse and better balanced, the story was extremely compelling, the characters you interact with fantastically well realized. Only problem? Never finished. It was clearly shipped incomplete (Yes I know why!) and even with amazing mods like the above it's just never been allowed to reach that high promise.
I wholeheartedly agree about KOTOR 2 though while I bought Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines on steam for some reason it won't work on my computer. God I wish they would do an HD collection of the KOTOR games and finish KOTOR 2.
You need (and I mean that literally) this unofficial patch: http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php

Download it, run it, it's fairly self explanatory and will work with your Steam copy. After that the game should run just fine. Also, obligatory piece of advice for that game: Don't play Nosferatu or Malkavian on your first playthrough. Save Malkavian for later, trust me.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
80Maxwell08 said:
The Madman said:
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Still a damned good game, especially with the community patches to smooth out the experience. One of my favourites even! But it just could have... *should* have been more. Oh what I'd give for more games like Bloodlines. In my ideal gaming world Bloodlines wouldn't need community patches and would have been shipped perfect, would have sold fantastically, and Troika would still be around making Arcanum and Bloodlines 2.

Knights of the Old Republic 2

If you're ever played this game with the Restored Content Mod you'll know what I mean when I say this game had the potential to not just be better than the first game, but to absolutely blow it away in nearly every regard. The gameplay was more diverse and better balanced, the story was extremely compelling, the characters you interact with fantastically well realized. Only problem? Never finished. It was clearly shipped incomplete (Yes I know why!) and even with amazing mods like the above it's just never been allowed to reach that high promise.
I wholeheartedly agree about KOTOR 2 though while I bought Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines on steam for some reason it won't work on my computer. God I wish they would do an HD collection of the KOTOR games and finish KOTOR 2.
You need (and I mean that literally) this unofficial patch: http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php

Download it, run it, it's fairly self explanatory and will work with your Steam copy. After that the game should run just fine. Also, obligatory piece of advice for that game: Don't play Nosferatu or Malkavian on your first playthrough. Save Malkavian for later, trust me.
Huh didn't think I would literally need a fan made patch but thanks. Just had it installed but I never got around to getting rid of it so I might as well use it. Also thanks for the bits of advice. I remember hearing those before but forgot the reasons. Something about them being hard I think.
EDIT: Hey what's the difference between basic patch and plus patch?
 

Geo Da Sponge

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80Maxwell08 said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
80Maxwell08 said:
The Madman said:
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Still a damned good game, especially with the community patches to smooth out the experience. One of my favourites even! But it just could have... *should* have been more. Oh what I'd give for more games like Bloodlines. In my ideal gaming world Bloodlines wouldn't need community patches and would have been shipped perfect, would have sold fantastically, and Troika would still be around making Arcanum and Bloodlines 2.

Knights of the Old Republic 2

If you're ever played this game with the Restored Content Mod you'll know what I mean when I say this game had the potential to not just be better than the first game, but to absolutely blow it away in nearly every regard. The gameplay was more diverse and better balanced, the story was extremely compelling, the characters you interact with fantastically well realized. Only problem? Never finished. It was clearly shipped incomplete (Yes I know why!) and even with amazing mods like the above it's just never been allowed to reach that high promise.
I wholeheartedly agree about KOTOR 2 though while I bought Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines on steam for some reason it won't work on my computer. God I wish they would do an HD collection of the KOTOR games and finish KOTOR 2.
You need (and I mean that literally) this unofficial patch: http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php

Download it, run it, it's fairly self explanatory and will work with your Steam copy. After that the game should run just fine. Also, obligatory piece of advice for that game: Don't play Nosferatu or Malkavian on your first playthrough. Save Malkavian for later, trust me.
Huh didn't think I would literally need a fan made patch but thanks. Just had it installed but I never got around to getting rid of it so I might as well use it. Also thanks for the bits of advice. I remember hearing those before but forgot the reasons. Something about them being hard I think.
Yeah, Steam has an annoying habit of putting old games up with very little support to help them. =/

Basically you want to avoid Nosferatu because they can't go out in public due to being hideously malformed and Malkavian because literally every single line of player dialogue is rewritten in 'crazy talk'. On later playthroughs it's funny, on the first it would just make it very hard to figure out what's going on and who you're accidentally insulting.
 

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80Maxwell08 said:
Huh didn't think I would literally need a fan made patch but thanks.
You don't need the fan patch. The vanilla game runs fine.

That patch modifies the game a lot - it isn't just a bug fix. It moves where items are, changes systems, tries to make the game "more like the tabletop" in ways the developers did not intend. Please don't use it, at least not the first time you play.
 

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tthor said:
hazabaza1 said:
I'd really like to see Mass Effect 1 done over with the more modern gameplay. ME1 is just not fun to play, at all, which is a shame since y'know, story and choices and new characters to play through the trilogy with.
I liked mass effect 1's gameplay MUCH more than mass effect 2,; Tho I guess I'm the type who prefers the old fashioned 'charge head-on into enemies, throwing enemies left and right with psychic powers and shooting the survivors,' rather than the 'duck behind chest-high wall, shoot at enemy, duck back down, repeat'. (but then again, last time I played mass effect 1 or 2, it was on an incredibly slow computer, so that might have skewed some of the gameplay)

OT, Mirror's Edge. I just finished the game today, and loved it, although it wasn't without flaws. I'm hoping Mirror's Edge will someday get a sequel, so that they can fix the flaws of the original
About Mirror's Edge, what do people consider "the flaws" of it? Just curious.


OP: Diablo 3. Yea, I said it, either make it like the original instead of a watered-down World of Warcraft, or just don't even make it.
 

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krellen said:
80Maxwell08 said:
Huh didn't think I would literally need a fan made patch but thanks.
You don't need the fan patch. The vanilla game runs fine.

That patch modifies the game a lot - it isn't just a bug fix. It moves where items are, changes systems, tries to make the game "more like the tabletop" in ways the developers did not intend. Please don't use it, at least not the first time you play.
Except I literally couldn't even start the game up. I would try to then it would crash saying I don't have enough memory which is absurd since I have way more memory than that game would ever require.
 

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Sonic the Hedgehog 2006. It could have been a great game, but we all know how that turned out....
 

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80Maxwell08 said:
krellen said:
80Maxwell08 said:
Huh didn't think I would literally need a fan made patch but thanks.
You don't need the fan patch. The vanilla game runs fine.

That patch modifies the game a lot - it isn't just a bug fix. It moves where items are, changes systems, tries to make the game "more like the tabletop" in ways the developers did not intend. Please don't use it, at least not the first time you play.
Except I literally couldn't even start the game up. I would try to then it would crash saying I don't have enough memory which is absurd since I have way more memory than that game would ever require.
If you have Win7, try running it in XP compatibility mode.
 

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Lord of the Rings: Conquest. I mean, I had fun listening to the soundtrack and Hugo Weaving's intense narrations, but that game had a lot of problems. Nevertheless, I have a dream that, one day, there will be a Lord of the Rings game to match the awesomeness of Star Wars: Battlefront 1 and 2.
 

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Mass Effect 3, with Drew Karpyshyr as its head writer. Hell, kick Mac Walters out of both sequels while we're out of it.