games that should have NEVER EVER been made

[shrekfan246]

Not precisely. I'm against taking ten plus years to make a cash cow game and then it sell atrociously well because fans are fans. Shovelware is easy to spot and avoid and naturally gets removed by the more discerning gamer and when it doesn't make money it goes away. Blizzard get to do the same thing, sell it as new, and make oodles of money. It's like a scam. It's hard to fight the shovelware gag reflex when it's got ten years of hype behind it.

Well see, the Diablo fans would be outraged if it had been massively changed, anyway. I'm going to try to refrain from fueling you but as far as dungeon crawlers and RTS' stand, the genre as a whole would probably not be nearly as big if it weren't for Blizzard.

Besides, the fan-base for Diablo is going to ***** and moan about the quality of the game no matter how good it is, because their eyes are tinted by the nostalgia that is the last ten years since Diablo II came out (Read: Unpleasable fan-base).

Personally, I don't trust Blizzard any more than any other company as a big corporation but as far as game developers go, there aren't many I trust more than Blizzard at making high quality games (Even if they do "Ruin lives" like so many people accuse WoW of doing).

And if you think Blizzard hasn't already made enough money to retire the entirety of their company with comfy country mansions, private jets, and a steady fountain of money in each mansion, then you are slightly delusional.
For example: WoW has roughly 11.4 million subscribers as of March 2011, which means that Blizzard makes a minimum of $171,000,000 per MONTH. Name another game developer with that kind of income.

EDIT: Obviously I didn't take into account any money taken out for whatever taxes get incurred on them, the differences between people who buy game-cards or subscribe every 3 or 6 months, or the people who buy things from the Blizzard store. I merely took the base $15 a month subscription fee with the number of subscribers they have as an example.

 

[aescuder]

Dude, don't be that guy. Because no matter how good my point is, you're not going to be swayed. Ten bucks says you've got half a reply formulated to whatever you think I'm going to say. Just let people *****.

Even if I don't agree, I might still find it an interesting argument. For now, I am just curious.

Fine. Ever since the original Diablo came out Blizzard peaked on that series at 2. Now in this day and age you'll inhabit a lifeless meaningless avatar to depopulate the world of it's cuddly hideous fauna over and over again in a game that feels more like an MMO than anything else. That was great for 2001. Now, they're going to render Diablo 3 in 3D add a few classes finally let people chose their sex (if I remember correctly) but underneath the tweak-like updates it'll still be Diablo and nothing will have changed... and they will make a fortune. It's a good business model, minimum work for maximum profit, but when I think about it I feel a little more hollow inside.

Oh, *that* business model. Simply put, it's a cash cow game. So, that would mean you are against all franchises that are actively recycling their games. Like Call of Duty, Need for Speed, all sport games from EA. I think Diablo scores pretty well compared to those recycled games.

EDIT: But yeah, point taken.

Not precisely. I'm against taking ten plus years to make a cash cow game and then it sell atrociously well because fans are fans. Shovelware is easy to spot and avoid and naturally gets removed by the more discerning gamer and when it doesn't make money it goes away. Blizzard get to do the same thing, sell it as new, and make oodles of money. It's like a scam. It's hard to fight the shovelware gag reflex when it's got ten years of hype behind it.

Blasphemous curr!jk I'd have to disagree mate almost to the point where I wish people made MORE diablo clones. There just hasn't been much like D2. Even if the game is a half-assed cash cow (which it really isn't in my opinion) I would much rather see that than yet ANOTHER first-person or third-person with spacemarines/Nazis/Russians. E3 bored me to death with those god-forsaken shooters, however pretty they look.

 

[Wireframefool]

Am I the only one who thinks that we need bad games, in order to learn from them, and to make fun of them? Seriously, the only reason good games are all the better is because you have BAD games to compare them too. If every game was as good as the other, I honestly think that would be boring.

 

[4RM3D]

Not precisely. I'm against taking ten plus years to make a cash cow game and then it sell atrociously well because fans are fans. Shovelware is easy to spot and avoid and naturally gets removed by the more discerning gamer and when it doesn't make money it goes away. Blizzard get to do the same thing, sell it as new, and make oodles of money. It's like a scam. It's hard to fight the shovelware gag reflex when it's got ten years of hype behind it.

And here I thought I had figured it out. All the things you said do indeed apply. I just think they apply more to other games.

But you have made your point. I understand why you dislike Diablo II (and by that definition also Starcraft II).

 

[ninja51]

Dragon Age 2. Ruined any hope for a real franchise with heart.

 

[curintedery]

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts

...seriously, I could deal with every other bad game I have ever played if this crispy piece of deep fried fecal matter had never been green lit...and fans of the series had gotten the real third part...

This is the most I have ever agreed with anyone on this site. This was one of the first games I got for the 360... and I was devastated. And the game even had the balls to put "Do you not enjoy the driving style of this game? Go back and play the first 2" on one of the loading screens. I wanted to snap it.

My answer would be Gran Turismo 5... I loved the other 4, and 5 just... well.. failed in my opinion :/.

 

[ArcticSquirrel]

Tetris

I could have had a beautiful life, but NO. Tetris had to take it all up while I tried to get on the high scores.

Fuck you Tetris.

 

[Double A]

You know what, I really like my 360, but I'm going to say it.

Halo should never have been made (at least for the Xbox).

The PC would be so much better off right now if it weren't for the Xbox. I would probably enjoy gaming at least twice as much, and RPGs tenfold.

 

[Knight Templar]

ET?
I can't really think of any games they don't deserve to exist, cheap move-based cash-ins maybe. Even the worst game has good parts.

OT: Splinter Cell Conviction. It was short. It was linear. It had nothing to do with stealth.

What are you talking about? Stealth was your primary weapon.

 

[Arrrgh_Bruce]

Tetris

I could have had a beautiful life, but NO. Tetris had to take it all up while I tried to get on the high scores.

Fuck you Tetris.

Haha bloody love tetris. You ever get the thing where you keep seeing falling blocks in your mind? Its trippy.

Also Conspiracy: Weapons of mass destruction for xbox.
I got it free and for good reason. Tried to find a good article on it but this one on IGN pretty much speaks for itself with the fact it never got a review and the wall seamingly died: http://au.xbox.ign.com/objects/718/718563.html
I think its ment to be a joke on America but im not sure.

 

[ArcticSquirrel]

ET?
I can't really think of any games they don't deserve to exist, cheap move-based cash-ins maybe. Even the worst game has good parts.

OT: Splinter Cell Conviction. It was short. It was linear. It had nothing to do with stealth.

What are you talking about? Stealth was your primary weapon.

yeah, seriously. You must have played the game wrong because the main selling point of the game was the ability to be stealthy or to go all "bad-ass" mode.

There was plenty of stealth, you should revisit it and try it a bit slower.

 

[zehydra]

There's a correct answer to this question:

Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

It's good once you turn off the game breaker weapon.

 

[Canid117]

Dynasty Warriors Gundam.


That is all.

 

[GrimHeaper]

ET?
I can't really think of any games they don't deserve to exist, cheap move-based cash-ins maybe. Even the worst game has good parts.

OT: Splinter Cell Conviction. It was short. It was linear. It had nothing to do with stealth.

What are you talking about? Stealth was your primary weapon.

yeah, seriously. You must have played the game wrong because the main selling point of the game was the ability to be stealthy or to go all "bad-ass" mode.

There was plenty of stealth, you should revisit it and try it a bit slower.

The majority of hating comes from "UR Doing it wrong".
anyway where's waldo.
They should have known better.

 

[NinjaTigerXIII]

Halo, if you think about it without Halo the world would of been better. The Xbox would of tanked thus no Xbox live for angry 12 year olds to fail at cursing.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

Too Human, A thousand times, Too Human!

Never should man have had to endure that pile of shit.

Also Two Worlds, another terrible game that should just not have ever existed. Can't say much about Two Worlds II as I have not played it. But I've heard that sucks as well, so probably that too.

Dynasty Warriors Gundam.


That is all.

This as well, honestly I've never played Gundam, I love the Dynasty Warrior's series. But when I saw Gundam the first thought that came into my head was "the fuck?! "

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

I cannot believe anyone has said this one - Metroid: Other M.

A game so horribly terrible (cookie for the reference catcher) that most of the Escapist staff has commented on it at one point or another.

 

[deserteagleeye]

Any game based on a movie, ever.

Even Spiderman 2?

 

[William Esty]

Dude, don't be that guy. Because no matter how good my point is, you're not going to be swayed. Ten bucks says you've got half a reply formulated to whatever you think I'm going to say. Just let people *****.

Even if I don't agree, I might still find it an interesting argument. For now, I am just curious.

Fine. Ever since the original Diablo came out Blizzard peaked on that series at 2. Now in this day and age you'll inhabit a lifeless meaningless avatar to depopulate the world of it's cuddly hideous fauna over and over again in a game that feels more like an MMO than anything else. That was great for 2001. Now, they're going to render Diablo 3 in 3D add a few classes finally let people chose their sex (if I remember correctly) but underneath the tweak-like updates it'll still be Diablo and nothing will have changed... and they will make a fortune. It's a good business model, minimum work for maximum profit, but when I think about it I feel a little more hollow inside.

Oh, *that* business model. Simply put, it's a cash cow game. So, that would mean you are against all franchises that are actively recycling their games. Like Call of Duty, Need for Speed, all sport games from EA. I think Diablo scores pretty well compared to those recycled games.


EDIT: But yeah, point taken.

So it's become like star wars. Make no mistake, I LOVE star wars, but at this point hey (lucasarts) are really just milking the franchise for any last bits of profit that they can.

For my answer? Just any game that did not at all contribute to the development of gaming. I agree that ET (or another game from a huge movie that epically bombed) NEEDED to be made, otherwise, the video game crash never would have happened, which in the end brought about games like Mario and Sonic. Mario revolutionized platforming forever, and Sonic introduce the idea of a fast paced game, plus started the idea of a regenerating shield and life system. But games like FF13 never did anything for anyone.

 

[Dgxphyrefightx]

Dinosaur Adventure. If you don't believe me, look that shit up, along with the rest of the abortions Dingo Pictures and Phoenix Games call games. They're good for laughs and ABSOLUTELY nothing else... Except maybe scarring children.