Games that were ridiculously difficult to get into?
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True, early-3D definitely hasn't aged so well as late-2D, which I massively prefer for that matter. I didn't mind that much in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, mainly because they had their art styles going for them. But I still don't prefer OoT over Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, Majora's Mask is a different story. But I don't really like Super Mario 64 either. I understand it's significance and I respect it for it, but I had a lot more fun with Super Mario Sunshine. I guess it doesn't help that I played all those games after I've played their recent brothers.snave said:
But in the case of Deus Ex, well, it was just a ton of...grey blocks. I know, I know, it's dystopian cyberpunk, but it didn't give me the Blade Runner feel. I missed things like dynamic lighting and shadows a lot. It depends a lot on the genre and feel the game is trying to produce whether I really mind old 3D graphics or not.
Maybe I'll try the game again when I have the time, take a different approach. The frustrating combat and stealth was a lot more annoying than the graphics and voice acting.
Well I just didn't try to do everything at once. That really helped. But I get what you mean though, EVE is a more tactical game whether the X3 games are indeed more direct action-oriented flying sims. But as with you, it was too difficult for me as well. I'm still looking for that space combat game that gives me the vastness of E3 and EVE, but has explosive, arcade action that's easy to get into.Dragonborne88 said:Wait, wait. It was possible to take EVE Online SLOWER? The slowness is what killed me trying to play the game. I can't "watch" my ship do cool stuff, I want to be the one to be doing the cool stuff. It's an awesome concept though, which is why I bought X3, because it sounds like a single-player EVE with a controllable ship. Still was too much to track though.
All Paradox Interactive games, really. I played HoI 2 for quite a while without knowing how it worked, until I stumbled on a "How To Play Germny for Newbs" guide on the Internet. I'm still not very good at Europa Universalis despite having played it more than any other game
Ever played Freelancer? It's not QUITE the scope of X3 and EVE, but is a pretty good arcade action space game with a pretty good story and a HUGE universe. I've played it a couple of times, and only saw like...maybe 10% of the available space. There are lots of secret galaxies to get to if you explore and find Wormholes scattered around.Cowabungaa said:
I can pretty much agree with all you said. To me it was a different type of dystopia. Urban wreck and ruin instead of futuristic. My friends and I used to call it the Hobo game because roughly half the characters are well, hobos. It does get BladeRunner-esque for a short while when you leave the US later though.Cowabungaa said:
Shadow of the Colossus.
I don't know if I was doing something fundamentally wrong, but I couldn't even HURT the first colossus. As it was only a borrowed game, I gave up at that point. Wasn't really any kind of overarching narriative to give me motivation anyway ... go over here, kill a thing ... ok, whatever.
I don't know if I was doing something fundamentally wrong, but I couldn't even HURT the first colossus. As it was only a borrowed game, I gave up at that point. Wasn't really any kind of overarching narriative to give me motivation anyway ... go over here, kill a thing ... ok, whatever.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (can't remember which one, but it starts off with the objective of finding downed helicopters)
It's not that it's not a good game, it was just a bit difficult to get into. You're told NOTHING except "here's yer stuff, find some helicopters". My guns kept deteriorating and I didn't know of any way to repair them, so I ended up selling those I could sell (some would be "too bad quality" to actually sell), dump the busted ones, and use the working ones. I didn't get far as I gave up pretty quickly (raided a ship or something with teammates, found an anomaly-artifact or something on a small ship, took a stroll through a lair with sleeping bloodsuckers(?) with a dude and found one of the helicopters before I gave up.
It's not that it's not a good game, it was just a bit difficult to get into. You're told NOTHING except "here's yer stuff, find some helicopters". My guns kept deteriorating and I didn't know of any way to repair them, so I ended up selling those I could sell (some would be "too bad quality" to actually sell), dump the busted ones, and use the working ones. I didn't get far as I gave up pretty quickly (raided a ship or something with teammates, found an anomaly-artifact or something on a small ship, took a stroll through a lair with sleeping bloodsuckers(?) with a dude and found one of the helicopters before I gave up.
I thought the slightly tricky interface and the barebones "graphics" were part of the entire POINT... it's an alternate universe game, but also it frees up the machine's CPU and RAM to actually make it more immersive just because of the sheer play area and number of variables it can track.Twad said:
Bit like Minecraft, but squared (...cubed? 9_9)
Galactic Civilisations. That game was so hard to understand at first. Mind, once I did figure out how to actually play it, it instantly became one of my favourite games of all time. Two Worlds was also one mostly because of how shit it was.
Etrian Odyssey 2, I spent a week playing it before I beat the first boss. And this was like 4 hours a day playing. But once you beat your first boss it gets to be so much fun. I loved that game. I realize that there is one before it and a sequel. But I haven't gotten around to them yet.
I did however finish 2 playthough's of Mass Effect 1 back to back. I didn't find Mass Effect 2 as fun, I hope 3 is better.
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The Citedel is quite big, with a lot of people to talk to. I can see why it can put some people off. I am the kind of person that talks to every single NPC is a systematic fashion. So I know how huge the place is, nevertheless I felt a sminge of sadness when I realized that you couldn't explore the whole place again in Mass Effect 2.Ranchcroutons said:
I did however finish 2 playthough's of Mass Effect 1 back to back. I didn't find Mass Effect 2 as fun, I hope 3 is better.
Agreed, but I couldn't make it past three hours.latenightapplepie said:
I should note that I was playing the Xbox version (and with that admission, I hear from the Escapist Universe a chorus of sighs with percussion provided by the sound of many faces meeting palms).
I am one of the few (or so I'm led to believe) that thought Red Dead Redemption was pretty hard to get into. I'm not sure why I didn't really get into it at the start, but once I got deeper into the mexico story, I kept on playing for a long time.
Shame about the ending, though... goddamnit
Shame about the ending, though... goddamnit
Deus Ex, but not because of the graphics. The first mission on Liberty Island basically has you running around as the most pathetic secret agent ever. Learning how the gameplay works after Halo and CoD have been branded into your head makes for a very tough experience. Sticking with it, though, was well worth it in the end.
I'm gonna say F1 2010. Not only is it quite complicated, especially if you are somewhat new to the sport, Being a Sim Racer the handling is VERY unforgiving.