Games to train a non-gamer with?
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Gears of War 2 (NOT ONE! 1 is a bit too brutal even on Casual for a starting gamer), any Halo although I'd avoid ODST for newbies due to a bunch of somewhat unnecessary things, Modern Warfar 1 or 2, or World at War. All of those pretty much give you somewhere to start with shooters that's somewhat new-player friendly.
I think Fable would be pretty good for an RPG starter, but go with the original. It's better and stuff.
RTS isn't big with console gaming, nor are MMOs, so I think shooters and RPGs about cover it without going into the out there stu- Oh! Wait! Platformers! If you need an intro in platformers that's available on the 360, I'd say Mirror's Edge would be okay. Plus if they can handle Mirror's Edge's platforming controls they'll be ready for just about everything else platforming can throw at them.
Also as much as it pains me to say this I would recommend Soul Calibur 4 as something that can be played on the 360 for fighter games. But if you can find something better or even just get this person playing Soul Calibur 2 or 3 instead I'd do that. As I've said previously, Soul Calibur 4 can fuck itself with a claw hammer. 2 and 3 and hell even the original were absolute shining gems coated in gold studded with platinum and more gems, while 4 just ruined everything they'd done for the fighter genre.
I think Fable would be pretty good for an RPG starter, but go with the original. It's better and stuff.
RTS isn't big with console gaming, nor are MMOs, so I think shooters and RPGs about cover it without going into the out there stu- Oh! Wait! Platformers! If you need an intro in platformers that's available on the 360, I'd say Mirror's Edge would be okay. Plus if they can handle Mirror's Edge's platforming controls they'll be ready for just about everything else platforming can throw at them.
Also as much as it pains me to say this I would recommend Soul Calibur 4 as something that can be played on the 360 for fighter games. But if you can find something better or even just get this person playing Soul Calibur 2 or 3 instead I'd do that. As I've said previously, Soul Calibur 4 can fuck itself with a claw hammer. 2 and 3 and hell even the original were absolute shining gems coated in gold studded with platinum and more gems, while 4 just ruined everything they'd done for the fighter genre.
If we're talking about teaching a non-gamer to play fighters, trust me, the ACTUAL iteration of SC won't make a difference. They won't be able to tell the difference at the start anyway.kwagamon said:
And SC is terrible choice for teaching people how to play fighting games. The amount of system knowledge inherently required just to perform is immense. SF2 might be a better choice.
Oh, just re-read the question. Only shooters? I wouldn't start there, personally. But, if you insist... Yeah, actually, Halo is probably the best place to start. You specified shooters, and Halo is nothing if not *the* shooter, the one from which all of our current shooters take all but the basic run-shoot-findammo inspiration from.
Give her a dose of Halo or MW2 and Gears of War, try to add some stealth and RPG titles in it. Add water and boom....profit?
It's been said before but I think Portal works very well. The game requires you to move in a 3D environment without much time pressure. And can be taken at a slow pace.
Then perhaps L4D as it is good to start out with enemies that don't shoot back.
Then perhaps L4D as it is good to start out with enemies that don't shoot back.
Only FPSs? I would have suggested something else...Zillar said:So, I'm friends with a couple. The guy loves video games and the girl doesn't, but she wants to get good at them. She's asking me to help her out so that she'll (eventually) be able to kick her boyfriend's ass.
I'd like to know what you all think would be some good games to get her started. I was thinking about starting with the first Halo and going through the Pillar of Autumn level, due to the fact that the tutorial is pretty basic and Halo is such an iconic game. That one "training" special ops mission in MW2 would be good as well, but those are pretty much all I can think of.
So the requirements are that they need to be shooters (not necessarily first person), available for the Xbox 360 and multiplayer, and not too artsy/unconventional/weird. Not games like Wet or Portal or Dragon Age. Hopefully I'll actually get to her to enjoy playing video games
Like Soul Caliber, or something. The first time I played that was a few days ago, and my friend had been playing for months. I beat him, every single time. Sure, its a fighting game, but still...
But, if you insist...
Okay, I suggest showing her something like MW2 first. It's good fun, and if she gets the combat down, it will transfer over to other games. Try the Halo games as well.
After she's reasonably alright, show her Half Life 2, Oblivion, Fallout 3...
And yes, you need to show her Portal. Not at first, but it is an increadible game, and she needs to play it.
Plus, Portal 2 is coming out soon, and it has co~op!
Good luck, and all.
Well I didn't think it was that bad. And now for my contribution to this forum...Anything out of the Orange Box, and maybe Bioshock, not the best shooter ever but its a good one to get your feet wet with.Zeetchmen said:
its been said about 8 times i think halo the first 3 and she should be good for FPS games. Now if you have a gamecube or a Wii get her to play animal crossing or sonic adventure battle 2 both of those got my sister hooked.Zillar said:So, I'm friends with a couple. The guy loves video games and the girl doesn't, but she wants to get good at them. She's asking me to help her out so that she'll (eventually) be able to kick her boyfriend's ass.
I'd like to know what you all think would be some good games to get her started. I was thinking about starting with the first Halo and going through the Pillar of Autumn level, due to the fact that the tutorial is pretty basic and Halo is such an iconic game. That one "training" special ops mission in MW2 would be good as well, but those are pretty much all I can think of.
So the requirements are that they need to be shooters (not necessarily first person), available for the Xbox 360 and multiplayer, and not too artsy/unconventional/weird. Not games like Wet or Portal or Dragon Age. Hopefully I'll actually get to her to enjoy playing video games
well, if the goal is to get her up to speed so she can BEAT her boyfriend, it might just be easier to get her to play the game she wants to beat him in, and then just train her in good FPS discipline like cover, target leading, and different weapon usage.
I'd start her off with basic games from each genre, to see what she is good at and likes. then give her some more complicated stuff, like Assassin's Creed, or the force unleashed, or a platformer, not like mirror's edge, like Prince of persia. (the Original Sands of Time trilogy, the new ones they have out are just shit) L4D 1 and 2 are always good as begining shooters.
To start off with, games like World of Goo or Portal are good, where there's no pressure or time based challenges (well portal has a few, but they're later on) and a lot of the fun is derived from the mechanics themselves. They're games where most of the work is in your head, so a non-gamer would be on near equal footing to a seasoned gamer for the most part.
Then Mario Galaxy, to show the wonder of platforming. It's a must.
Finally, Fallout 3. You'll need to play it with them to explain how everything works, but V.A.T.S makes it very easy for first time players. I got my girlfriend to play fallout 3 for about 5 hours yesterday. She did drop the controller in terror when she got ambushed by mirelurks though.
Then Mario Galaxy, to show the wonder of platforming. It's a must.
Finally, Fallout 3. You'll need to play it with them to explain how everything works, but V.A.T.S makes it very easy for first time players. I got my girlfriend to play fallout 3 for about 5 hours yesterday. She did drop the controller in terror when she got ambushed by mirelurks though.
Aggghh, I hate the mirelurks too. I can never finish that quest that Moira gives you where you have to sneak into their nest.
Anyway, thanks for the ideas, guys. To explain the bit about only doing shooters, it's so that she'll be able to play with her boyfriend and do moderately well in co-op. I think I will show her some RPG's and stuff (/die hard mass effect fan), but shooters are the emphasis. I feel like girls are more attracted to RPG's anyway?
EDIT: here's the line up so far.
Halo: Combat Evolved
Modern Warfare 2
Gears of War 2
Left for Dead (the first one, because LFD2 is so much harder)
-sorry, don't have Rainbow Vegas-
maaaybe TF2, but I've barely played it and likely wouldn't be able to help much
Halo Reach. Because it's so beautiful.
then later,
Portal
Mass Effect 2
Fallout 3
Mirror's Edge?
Assassin's Creed
/totalbrainmeltdownduetotoomanygames
...this should be her boyfriend's job.
Anyway, thanks for the ideas, guys. To explain the bit about only doing shooters, it's so that she'll be able to play with her boyfriend and do moderately well in co-op. I think I will show her some RPG's and stuff (/die hard mass effect fan), but shooters are the emphasis. I feel like girls are more attracted to RPG's anyway?
EDIT: here's the line up so far.
Halo: Combat Evolved
Modern Warfare 2
Gears of War 2
Left for Dead (the first one, because LFD2 is so much harder)
-sorry, don't have Rainbow Vegas-
maaaybe TF2, but I've barely played it and likely wouldn't be able to help much
Halo Reach. Because it's so beautiful.
then later,
Portal
Mass Effect 2
Fallout 3
Mirror's Edge?
Assassin's Creed
/totalbrainmeltdownduetotoomanygames
...this should be her boyfriend's job.
Honestly, I'm not sure you should use an FPS to get someone into gaming. Yeah, if she wants to play the game with him, the best option is to take those games and practice at them.
Otherwise, you want to start her off on simple games.
Yeah, I think Halo is a good choice, given how many people it introduced to console shooters. Once she's got that, go on to the games she wants to play with them.
But for gaming as a whole? That list right there is terrible.
First, I hope they have Live Arcade. You want simple to start), and you want variety (to see what genres she likes).
Go Old-School. You want her to get into action? Gunstar Heroes and the Metal Slug series (3 and XX (7 with co-op) are both available for Arcade) are both simple, but impressive (especially Metal Slug).
Ecco the Dolphin is old-school (Sega Genesis), but is also unique and fun. You can't go wrong with a game that lets you kick alien ass as a Cetacean.
Portal is also a good choice, and they have an expansion on Arcade as well.
Puzzle Games seem to be popular with those that may otherwise not play games. The Bejeweled series is popular with the casual set (I played the original, and it's fun), and Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo is a fun competitive puzzle game that's absurdly cute (It features Super Deformed Street Fighter/Darkstalkers characters).... Oooh, they have Lumines!
But try a wide variety of genres. Platformers, Puzzles, RPG's, shooters... and not just First-person, but also 'Mech or Flight Sims like Armored Core or Ace Combat. Let her find out what she likes.
Otherwise, you want to start her off on simple games.
Yeah, I think Halo is a good choice, given how many people it introduced to console shooters. Once she's got that, go on to the games she wants to play with them.
But for gaming as a whole? That list right there is terrible.
First, I hope they have Live Arcade. You want simple to start), and you want variety (to see what genres she likes).
Go Old-School. You want her to get into action? Gunstar Heroes and the Metal Slug series (3 and XX (7 with co-op) are both available for Arcade) are both simple, but impressive (especially Metal Slug).
Ecco the Dolphin is old-school (Sega Genesis), but is also unique and fun. You can't go wrong with a game that lets you kick alien ass as a Cetacean.
Portal is also a good choice, and they have an expansion on Arcade as well.
Puzzle Games seem to be popular with those that may otherwise not play games. The Bejeweled series is popular with the casual set (I played the original, and it's fun), and Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo is a fun competitive puzzle game that's absurdly cute (It features Super Deformed Street Fighter/Darkstalkers characters).... Oooh, they have Lumines!
But try a wide variety of genres. Platformers, Puzzles, RPG's, shooters... and not just First-person, but also 'Mech or Flight Sims like Armored Core or Ace Combat. Let her find out what she likes.
Actually, that's a pretty decent damn idea. I taught my older brother how to play it and within an hour we were kicking arse on the 'Red Lotus' level and using terms like 'take point' and 'watch my six' without any hint of sarcasm of mock-Jack Bauer voice. True story.hurfdurp said:
OT: Another good one is definitely Jak and Daxter or Ratchet and Clank. If you can find them on PS2 and help her to play them, then she'll pick it up really quickly.