For the Longest time I couldn't figure out the Gummi-ship system. So I'd be stuck in traverse town XDFPLOON said:
Games Where You Felt Totally Lost
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I get totally lost in Bethesda RPGs, it's something about the huge open world, limited resources, and paranoia about not wanting to piss people off that I always get crippled by indecision about where to go and what to do.
Dark Souls 2 had a terrible sense of where to go. In theory, it should be simpler than Dark Souls 1 with the teleporting and the fact that most areas are just "branches" of Majula. But in Dark Souls 1 the world felt more "connected", with shortcuts and hidden paths linking areas. 2 feels like the world is just a confusing mishmash, and it also doesn't help that there's no clear objective. I understand that the games are cryptic, but at least in Dark Souls 1 I was given the vague but helpful instruction to go "up" and "down". 2 never really gives you a goal besides "seek mightier souls". So I'm just supposed to stumble around and kill the right bosses eventually? Fun. I loathe Dark Souls 2, which is especially heartbreaking for me considering how much I loved the first.
Witcher 1. Mainly because in chapter 2, you're supposed to solve a mystery, but because the way the consersation trees worked, it felt like a mystery novel with half the pages ripped out. And I was given a chance to accuse someone of hiding something from me when I had no idea why I would want to do that. And told to go investigate a guy that I had no idea who the fuck was and what he had to do with anything. It's why I rage quit the game and still haven't finished it.
I like games where getting lost is part of the charm. Skyrim is one example; don't get me wrong, I don't like the game and was the first one preaching that it wasn't good even a year before release, but the exploration is great for a walking simulator. Sadly there isn't anything to do, but I enjoyed wandering around for an hour with no objective hoping that I might stumble onto something interesting. It was fun. =)
On the contrary, games with endless exploration that isn't fun are MMORPGs, and Eastern ones in particular. The quest trackers are awful, the maps are awful, the UI is awful (true of I think 100% of Korean MMOs) and it's so easy to get lost, and since walking takes so long with zero discovery or exploration to do, it's just dull. Combat is usually 99% stats-based, so if you stumble into an area too high level, you just die. It's like a multi-choice question between 'Die, Die, Live, Die', but each pick takes about fifteen minutes of running. Urgh to guideless MMOs.
On the contrary, games with endless exploration that isn't fun are MMORPGs, and Eastern ones in particular. The quest trackers are awful, the maps are awful, the UI is awful (true of I think 100% of Korean MMOs) and it's so easy to get lost, and since walking takes so long with zero discovery or exploration to do, it's just dull. Combat is usually 99% stats-based, so if you stumble into an area too high level, you just die. It's like a multi-choice question between 'Die, Die, Live, Die', but each pick takes about fifteen minutes of running. Urgh to guideless MMOs.
I tried playing that game....it wasn't your age, the game was just that bad.Abb Tighe said:
As for me, Dragon Warrior 2 and StarTropics (though the latter had more to do with me simply getting stuck multiple times)....both good games, but you'll probably need a walkthrough at some point, especially if you're too young to remember that 747 bullshit.
X3 reunion... I have given up on that game.
No idea on how to make money fast enough. It's super slow, and involves you finding enough money trading to buy a super expensive deal finder, and hyperdrive.
No idea on how to make money fast enough. It's super slow, and involves you finding enough money trading to buy a super expensive deal finder, and hyperdrive.
Problem was I used to rent Zelda from a local store and they didn't give you the manual so I was playing that game blindThe_Great_Galendo said:
That's very true. Try renting Metroid as a 9 year old kid, with no manual, guide, or Nintendo Power. Same with Castlevania 2. In fact, renting a game was a gamble, because they never had the manual. I was a little french kid, so if the game was anything more complex than a simple platformer or shoot-em-up, I was completely lost. Then again, it didn't really matter back then. To me it was just fun to play, not necessarily getting ahead or making progress. I can't tell you how many times I beat the first dungeon in Zelda-- yet I only beat the whole game ONCE. And that was with an online guide. But it was still fun to rent/borrow the game and screw around as a youth.The_Great_Galendo said:
This is one of the reasons I still haven't finished Planescape: Torment. Well, that and the terrible combat system. I especially got scared when I discovered that apparantly, the city you're in has hidden portals to other dimensions hidden in any kind of enclosed archway, doorway, window, etc, and that random objects you carry might be keys to open any specific one of them.
Yeah... I don't fancy getting lost in an infinite multiverse thanks.
Yeah... I don't fancy getting lost in an infinite multiverse thanks.
Kerbel Space Program, back before a logical science tree and career mode was in place you loaded the game ended up in the VAB with a huge selection of random parts and an entire Solar Systsem in which to go with no knowledge of where to go and how to get there.
From that point onwards it is an endless precession of not knowing how to do anything, until you finally crash enough to work it out.
I dunno how to get in to space, crash some work it out
I dunno how to achieve orbit, crash some more work it out
I dunno how to travel to the Mun, (seriously orbital transfers confused the hell out of me for so long)
I dunno how to deorbit and land, crash some work it out
I dunno how to intercept that planet who's orbit is at a weird angle to my own crafts, not so much crashing but anm awful lot of Delta V and missed intercepts.
and when you finally manage to work out this stuff you then have
I dunno how to intercept that other craft, waste tons of Delta V miss a lot get frustrated
and then finally
I dunno how to dock
The game is just one challenge after another and even now it still throws some odd curve balls at you, usdually due to piss poor craft design on my behalf.
From that point onwards it is an endless precession of not knowing how to do anything, until you finally crash enough to work it out.
I dunno how to get in to space, crash some work it out
I dunno how to achieve orbit, crash some more work it out
I dunno how to travel to the Mun, (seriously orbital transfers confused the hell out of me for so long)
I dunno how to deorbit and land, crash some work it out
I dunno how to intercept that planet who's orbit is at a weird angle to my own crafts, not so much crashing but anm awful lot of Delta V and missed intercepts.
and when you finally manage to work out this stuff you then have
I dunno how to intercept that other craft, waste tons of Delta V miss a lot get frustrated
and then finally
I dunno how to dock
The game is just one challenge after another and even now it still throws some odd curve balls at you, usdually due to piss poor craft design on my behalf.
I beat the first dungeon and then got so lost I gave up... I'm guessing I was supposed to just bask in the exploration the game was offering, but when I could just go explore in the more detailed, expansive, and interesting Metroid Prime and Wind Waker instead... well... I never went back though I intended to at one point.Lieju said:
I much preferred the first Metroid as an old exploration game anyway.
Did anybody ever play that adventure game based on Pagemaster? That used to be my number 1 mystifier when I was a kid.
Gonna agree with you here.[footnote]...although I think if I devote some time I think I may remember a few more games that were far worse...[/footnote]Sniper Team 4 said:
Finished the game yesterday but without the internet I wouldn't have caught many subtle aspects of the story. And that I found really unfortunate because the story is kind of interesting but the game keeps it far too buried to develop the kind of impact I feel it has. Plus, it was really annoying when the game decided to not explain how the covenants work and only mentions some very crucial gameplay aspects more-or-less in passing. In my opinion, the game would have benefited a lot from a more, shall we say, open approach in terms of information both story- and mechanics-wise.
I haven't played the game since before they put in the career mode and the last thing I was doing is trying to land a probe on the moon(so I didn't kill kerbals unnecessarily). Succeeded in making some impact craters.Laughing Man said:
I found that downloading fan-made parts packs helped a lot,giving you more options to play with in design.
Does the career mode help you learn how to do things now? Like how to actually land on Mun? How to dock? Because I still suck at docking and orbital intercepts.
Eventually I'm gonna get back to that game.
If it makes you feel any better, it's not like you'll randomly walk through a door and end up in hell with no way back. The game actually makes you seek out doors and the ways to open them, so you know in advance where you are going and how to get there.Hawk of Battle said:
The combat system does have a really steep learning curve and it's one of the few times I played a mage.
Are we also talking about being literally lost? As in, you can't find your way around the game?
Because I do that all the time. I have such a bad sense of direction that even the simplest of games can turn me around direction-wise. I even managed to get lost on Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story on my way to Bowser's Castle (Going there to get the Bros. Blocks), even though the lower screen has a map.
It sucks.
Because I do that all the time. I have such a bad sense of direction that even the simplest of games can turn me around direction-wise. I even managed to get lost on Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story on my way to Bowser's Castle (Going there to get the Bros. Blocks), even though the lower screen has a map.
It sucks.
Oh my gosh the first Mass Effect! I got lost in the first main city and couldn't find a way to leave! Didn't know my mission, just kept running around and had NO IDEA what to do. Turned me off to the whole series.