It's a bit cliffhangery about that.Dalisclock said:
Still,excellent gasme, got some feels out of me inbetween mowing down nazis.
Games you can't win (Spoilers within)
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Still,excellent gasme, got some feels out of me inbetween mowing down nazis.
Dragon Age 2, in many ways
You screwed up so bad that Hawke
You live in the end and stop the threats of Mages and Templars in Kirkwall but
1. Kirkwall is pretty much destroyed by the fighting.
2. The good people in Kirkwall who struggled for peace have been killed by your (or your companions') actions including Grand Cleric Elthina.
3. Your entire family (except your uncle and MAYBE one of your siblings) is dead.
4. Many of your companions may be dead or have abandoned you. Some might have even betrayed you. Your love interest is not protected from this, meaning you can easily be betrayed by the person you loved and have to kill them.
5. You start a massive civil war across Thedas
6. You released Corypheus (the closest thing Thedas has to Satan) from his prison and he becomes the primary antagonist in Inquisition.
7. As of Inquisition, you and any of your remaining companions are on the run because of your involvement in the end of DA2.
1. Kirkwall is pretty much destroyed by the fighting.
2. The good people in Kirkwall who struggled for peace have been killed by your (or your companions') actions including Grand Cleric Elthina.
3. Your entire family (except your uncle and MAYBE one of your siblings) is dead.
4. Many of your companions may be dead or have abandoned you. Some might have even betrayed you. Your love interest is not protected from this, meaning you can easily be betrayed by the person you loved and have to kill them.
5. You start a massive civil war across Thedas
6. You released Corypheus (the closest thing Thedas has to Satan) from his prison and he becomes the primary antagonist in Inquisition.
7. As of Inquisition, you and any of your remaining companions are on the run because of your involvement in the end of DA2.
You screwed up so bad that Hawke
can sacrifice themselves in Inquisition to atone for their mistakes in DA2.
Nethergate, which the OP mentioned isn't unusual among Spiderweb games in presenting a 'can't win scenario'.
Among Spiderweb games, I think the Geneforge series in particular shows this trend quite well. Particularly when it comes to the 'canon' endings for the games.
Among Spiderweb games, I think the Geneforge series in particular shows this trend quite well. Particularly when it comes to the 'canon' endings for the games.
The canon ending for G3 has to be either the protagonist dying before the end of the game, or becoming a mutagen addicted lackey for the Rebel faction, who go on to commit mass genocide in their ending. There's a bit of fan speculation that the insane monomaniacal mutant named 'Monarch' who turns up out of nowhere to menace both the Shaper and Rebel factions halfway through the fourth game is the player from the third game. Either way, neither of the travelling companions from the third game want to talk about the protagonist, which makes it sound like things worked out very well.
Helped the Shapers and stopped the Rebels from releasing the 'Unbound', an army of genetically engineered psychotic balrogs- earning the trust of the shaper leaders Alawan and Miranda, being named an honorary shaper and being given governership of the surviving rebels after the civil war is over? Too bad, the canon ending leaves Alawan crippled for life, miranda is dead, and the unbound are released and overrun the continent, leading to (again) mass genocide and the continued dragging on of the civil war.
The Half-Life series?
I still haven't wiped out the Combine, so I haven't won. When do I get to win Valve? Is this your way of telling me that, in life, I don't always get to win? Despite my best efforts? Sometimes aliens just bust in your windows and kill your friends and a big robot dog appears to save the day but it's too late and you just gotta deal with it but then time stops and I don't get revenge?
I don't like that lesson. I'd prefer Half-Life 3.
I still haven't wiped out the Combine, so I haven't won. When do I get to win Valve? Is this your way of telling me that, in life, I don't always get to win? Despite my best efforts? Sometimes aliens just bust in your windows and kill your friends and a big robot dog appears to save the day but it's too late and you just gotta deal with it but then time stops and I don't get revenge?
I don't like that lesson. I'd prefer Half-Life 3.
It is, but it does seem rather heavily hinted at, considering BJThe White Hunter said:
wasn't gonna make it to the helicopter before the nuclear strike hit.
For that matter, Singularity doesn't really have a good ending either. No matter what ending you get,
the Soviets, or some variant thereof, still run the world in the new timeline and it's heavily implied that the ending where you end in the helicopter is the canon one, due it being the only one that isn't a summery. Though that ending is slightly less depressing then the others, with the implication that the Soviet Union in the new timeline is a little less oppressive then the other ones in the game
Urban legend. Playing to the "final screen" of Pitfall was possible... then you exited to the right and were once again in the first screen where the game began. It was a never-ending loop.Mike000 said:
Yeah but we'll see, I'll be happy to just see more from the studio behind new order frankly. Wonderful game, bit too drawn out, but all else it was great.Dalisclock said:
Singularity is underated as fuck, the endings are super depressing though. Awesome fun game though.
Actually, does DEFCON count? Considering the entire point of the game is to fight a thermonuclear war and millions of people are going to die no matter how well you play, one could say you don't win DEFCON, you just lose fewer of your own people then the other guy.
Spec Ops: The Line
Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core
The best you can hope for is to survive, but theres no winning, no matter what you do you loose. Some may see the best possible ending as a win, but your not the hero of any ending, you are a monster, thats why you dont win
Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core
You dont win, but man oh man do you go out in a blaze of glory. I knew how it had to end, but its to the credit of the game that I didnt give up, I never wanted to give up
*WHAP!* Bad Coruptin!Coruptin said:
As for me, the Deponia trilogy. At the end of each title all your efforts end up with the character your playing as failing and the bad guy winning.
AidoZonkey said:
Even if you survive, it's debatable wether that's the "best" ending, to be honest. Well, I suppose compared with every other one, the ending where you both survive and surrender to the US troops at the end (or at least is killed by them), is probably one of the overall better ones since the US army would presumably at least help out the people in Dubai at least a bit. But still, I don't think any of them can be really called good for Walker to any extent. Even Walker himself realises that when he says "Requesting immediate evacuation of Dubai. Survivors: one too many" and later if he's taken home alive he responds "How did you survive this?" with "Who says I did".
uh...yes, if you just ran in one direction, it was a loop...but it was actually a non-euclidean maze. Switching from the above ground path to the underground one and running in the same direction, you'd see things like screen 1, 3, 7, 5, 9, 8. Reversing direction on some screens would take you to somewhere other than the screen you had just left. It was too much of a pain to track.Kyrian007 said:
FEAR: Extraction Point.
Fate/Extra's ending involves you discovering that you
I suppose Silent Hill: Shattered Memories counts, too, since
Fate/Extra's ending involves you discovering that you
are simply a disconnected copy of a real person in a coma somewhere and therefore can't actually win because you're not human. You can however make one last wish before the system destroys you as the abberation you are.
I suppose Silent Hill: Shattered Memories counts, too, since
You died years ago.