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darthzew

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The statement for the title, I hope, is obvious. But I wanted to give what really pushed me over the edge today. Also, I present this as only one evidence out of quite a few....

CAUTION: FAR CRY 2 SPOILERS ABOUND!

So, I was playing Far Cry 2 today and I was really thinking "wow, this actually has a pretty unique storyline and the Jackal character is really complex." But while I was playing, I remembered Gamespot saying something about a weak story. I went back and read the review again and I smacked my head with my hand in the most epic facepalm imaginable.

Let me first get out of the way why I think Far Cry 2 has an insanely good plot. First off, you're looking for a villain who armed both evil sides in this African civil war. It's pretty cut-clean in the beginning that you're trying to kill someone bad. But when the big reveal comes around, you figure out that you've been helping the Jackal all along.

And then the second big reveal comes around... the Jackal is actually the good guy. Everything you thought about the game before is changed.

And then there are some pretty awesome references to Joseph Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness'. I mean, yeah, the references get pretty obvious toward the end, but it's obvious that Far Cry 2 was inspired by great source material and that's a plus in my book.

The only thing I can fault is the really terrible voice acting. Yeah, the other characters are mostly dry but they all serve their purpose... especially in establishing the intricacy of the two factions and the underground and... it's complex and my second playthrough still has me thinking "wow!"

Anyway, Gamespot completely missed this. I doubt they even finished the game. I checked their policies and read that they don't always beat games first, but this time they published completely wrong information. I'm betting that if they had actually finished the game, it'd have a 9.0 or even a 9.5. No, Far Cry 2 isn't flawless but it does NOT have a bad story.

Here's the review:
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/farcry2/review.html

I was once a Gamespot-only person, but now I hate it. They can't write worth a good Goddamn and they especially can't review games. There was a time when they have writers and editors concerned with games, now they're obviously only concerned about getting hits and advertising.

Thanks for reading that.

Now, please tell me your opinion of Gamespot and the plot behind Far Cry 2. Am I the only one who thinks Far Cry 2 has an excellent story?
 

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mentor07825 said:
You're dead on.

I left Gamespot years ago after Jeff Gerstmann was fired for giving Kayne & Lynch a 6.0 rating. I was there when it was happening and I knew how heavily advertised the site was. I even complained on the forum and the forum got locked and I got a warning.

After he was fired review quality went down and I left the site.
Same here. I stayed for a while because I've got some friends there, but I think I'm just going to leave. It's not worth it anymore.
 

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mentor07825 said:
darthzew said:
mentor07825 said:
You're dead on.

I left Gamespot years ago after Jeff Gerstmann was fired for giving Kayne & Lynch a 6.0 rating. I was there when it was happening and I knew how heavily advertised the site was. I even complained on the forum and the forum got locked and I got a warning.

After he was fired review quality went down and I left the site.
Same here. I stayed for a while because I've got some friends there, but I think I'm just going to leave. It's not worth it anymore.
It's really not. I didn't have anyone there. Since then I've been surfing the net for good sites and found them. Also buy video game magazines now. Needless to say I found a huge difference in the review quality. Been happy since and never looked back.
Do you use Giantbomb? That's where Gerstmann and friends went. It's still not perfect, but it's a really good site. It's like where the spirit of the old Gamespot went. I use it for reviews and news, but I use the Escapist for my forum needs.
 

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From what I have seen in any forums with the word "Game" in the title it has lots fanboys, trolls, and is a bit corrupt.
 

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Gamespots failure is almost tragic, it really is. Anyway I completely agree with you on Farcry 2.
 

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mentor07825 said:
darthzew said:
mentor07825 said:
darthzew said:
mentor07825 said:
You're dead on.

I left Gamespot years ago after Jeff Gerstmann was fired for giving Kayne & Lynch a 6.0 rating. I was there when it was happening and I knew how heavily advertised the site was. I even complained on the forum and the forum got locked and I got a warning.

After he was fired review quality went down and I left the site.
Same here. I stayed for a while because I've got some friends there, but I think I'm just going to leave. It's not worth it anymore.
It's really not. I didn't have anyone there. Since then I've been surfing the net for good sites and found them. Also buy video game magazines now. Needless to say I found a huge difference in the review quality. Been happy since and never looked back.
Do you use Giantbomb? That's where Gerstmann and friends went. It's still not perfect, but it's a really good site. It's like where the spirit of the old Gamespot went. I use it for reviews and news, but I use the Escapist for my forum needs.
I go there, but not much. I go to:

http://www.nowgamer.com/
http://www.edge-online.com/
http://www.gamepolitics.com/
http://www.1up.com/
http://www.gamesradar.com/cheats
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/

And that's really it. This site for the forums, others for reviews and news. I also cross-refernce the same reviews. Nowgamer is very good though, in my opinion. It is contributed by the same writers for big magazines such as 360, Games(tm) and others. It also has a few news columns and articles of interest.
Thank you for making this thread useful.
 

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That's why you're never supposed to go to gamespot.

They don't even know what they're doing half the time.
 

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darthzew said:
Let me first get out of the way why I think Far Cry 2 has an insanely good plot. First off, you're looking for a villain who armed both evil sides in this African civil war. It's pretty cut-clean in the beginning that you're trying to kill someone bad.
Hahaha, sorry i kind of stopped reading after that. I have only heard bad things about the story and your sentences might confirm them.

Gamespot is shit alright, but FarCry doesn't seem to be a major plot-driven game so they might have a point on that one.
 

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I agree with you, I really enjoyed FarCry 2. There were some annoying things about it, but what game doesn't have at least one or two things that could have been different. The biggst complaint was the fact you had to walk long distances. I find this pathetic, how sad of an individual are you when you are too lazy to walk somewhere IN A VIDEOGAME?!?

Also I was genuinely affected when my first little mercenary buddy got wounded and I had to put him down. I didn't do it like a ***** though, I used his own Deagle and popped him in his melon, a true warriors death is what he deserved. I will miss you turban guy.
 

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mentor07825 said:
You're dead on.

I left Gamespot years ago after Jeff Gerstmann was fired for giving Kayne & Lynch a 6.0 rating. I was there when it was happening and I knew how heavily advertised the site was. I even complained on the forum and the forum got locked and I got a warning.

After he was fired review quality went down and I left the site.
Pretty much what happened to me. I always prefered Gamesradar anyways, they're a smaller site that I really like. They have cool features and decent reviews. Or maybe not so small now. Anyways, the whole K&L thing blew over, I realized how much the other staff members sold out, so I pretty much abandoned that site forever. Although the K&L video review was a bit funny, I saw it before they tore it down.
I read a review recently on Gamespot, and I haven't seen one that was more than a page. And they're all shit.
 

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All you have to do is look at what happened to Jeff Gerstmann and you know what Gamespot's all about - profit margin. They literally fired him for doing his job. He's a critic, and was paid by Gamespot to give his opinion on games. Then they fired him for giving his opinion on Kayne and Lynch. Brilliant.

Mind you, if Jeff hadn't been fired he wouldn't have started up Giant Bomb. That's my favourite website for video content now - Escapist has the best community I've come across, but the videos are lackluster in my opinion. Even ZP has lost its appeal for me...

But now I'm getting off subject. Occassionally I jump on Gamespot to annoy the fanboys because it sometimes produces hilarious results. I never read any reviews they post, though. And their news coverage isn't as thorough as any of the other sites I use.
 

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g805ge said:
Actually this is the reason he got fired.

Its really isn't a big deal as people make it out to be. This the way they get paid.

Fun Fact: Did you know Jeff scored Halo 3 a 9.5 on GameSpot before Kane and Lynch and he scored GTA IV 5 stars at his own website? Two games that receive HIGH amount of backlash from the gaming community and Zero Punctuation.
Didn't I say that? Jeff got fired for giving his opinion on a game that he wasn't supposed to? That's what I mean, at any rate.

I also know that he did review Halo 3 and GTA 4 in high regard. But then, so do I. I think the multiplayer in Halo3 is probably one of the most streamlined and fun things on the 360. I think GTA4's storyline and characterisation were very deep and memorable things that I gladly paid money for. Did you know that every opinion is subjective?

My point was that Jeff gave his own opinion on Kane and Lynch - as a critic, this is basically his entire job description - and that opinion upset the sponsor who in turn upset marketing and advertising so he was let go.
 

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<img src="http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1416/2zr1eza.jpg" /img>

Gamespot did similar things.
 

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Tenmar said:
I understand that. In fact, I even clarified that in my original post.

Anyway, the point is that this time, it actually hurt those who read their stuff. It's wrong information and if they really cared about their service, they'd have gone back and clarified.
 

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Brotherofwill said:
darthzew said:
Let me first get out of the way why I think Far Cry 2 has an insanely good plot. First off, you're looking for a villain who armed both evil sides in this African civil war. It's pretty cut-clean in the beginning that you're trying to kill someone bad.
Hahaha, sorry i kind of stopped reading after that....
Why?
 

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Fragster said:
They scored it a 8.5 not a 9.0 or a 9.5. Even if they did gave Far Cry 2 a 9.0 or a 9.5 what big deal does it make? Its their opinion. I agree with most of their review but I think the story in Far Cry 2 is pretty decent. Don't make a big deal out of it. Its just a review.
From the original post:

"I present this as only one evidence out of quite a few...."