Then move to a different country if you don't like how the taxes and other costs of shipping games to your continent drives the price up.Omegatronacles said:
GameStop Releases Xenoblade Chronicles Stock, Increases Price
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Disapprove all you like. The US is such a big market anything that disrupts sales of a JRPG there hurts the chances of other JRPGs to be localized to some degree. If you want to celebrate that then be my guest but as someone who loves the Genre I wont join youArqus_Zed said:
You think Legends 2 is expensive take a look around for the Misadventures of Tron Bonne. To get just the disc itself with no jewel case or artwork used is usually $100, and that's the cheapest. New copies go close to $1000. It's a shame too because I would love to have the Misadventures of Tron Bonne to LP since I've done Legends 1 and 2 already.major_chaos said:
But that's just the thing, isn't it? These three big RPGs I'm talking about (Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story and Pandora's Tower) all had their European release dates confirmed while they weren't even sure they would get a US release. Yes, in the past, bad sales of certain JRPGs in the US have been a factor in some of said JRPGs not coming to Europe. However, in this instance, Nintendo Europe had chosen to localize these games, despite Nintendo America being on the fence about it. In a way, the mere fact that such a situation has prevented itself, is somewhat a sign of independence, showing that we don't have to be completely reliant on how a JRPG fares in the US before it is brought over.Quellist said:
I remember being extremely disappointed when I first found out Misadventures of Tron Bonne is impossible to get legitimately for less than $100, it seems like such a fun quirky little title. Interestingly, it apparently doesn't play nice with emulators, so its actually also impossible to play it illegitimately, which puts it in its own class of rarity.Neronium said:
Which translates to NA Nintendo players missing out on these games being something to feel a certain joy over because...? Anyone being cut off from games via region locking should never be something to be celebrated. I never honestly understood this attitude, whether it be some NA guy thinking it about Europe or some European guy thinking about a game not being released in say, Australia. There's just this certain elitist taste to it which, at the end of the day, doesn't quite make any sense. There is a huge difference between being glad that something came out in your own region, and being glad that a game didn't come out in someone else's region. Where exactly is the upside to this? Please, explain to me what the benefit is and why there should be a cause for celebration.Arqus_Zed said:
Aye, there's actual Sensibility. Sir/Ma'am, I applaud you! If people don't like the price, don't buy it at that. If you absolutely must have the game and don't want to shop at gamestop.... go online and pay up to triple what they're selling it for. Evil, evil gamestop, saving you money like that and making sure inventory is available, oh, how dare they.... First listing on ebay is 195 right now. lots of reasonably comparable offers around the 80's for used. but once you buy it, it's yours. no return policy, only ebay's word that something will happen to the other people if you get ripped off...Super Not Cosmo said:
Gamestop is a business, just like ebay. But then again, so are pawn stores, wal*marts, gas stations...
Go ahead and try to buy used gas. or try to not complain about the price of gas every time it goes up even a little. And gas is pretty much a necessity. Games aren't- they're pure luxury. This is the 2nd most expensive game i've ever seen at a gamestop. only other one was such a collectors item, i've never seen a copy of, ever again.
But none of those companies were willing to shell out the cash for contract like Gamestop was. You'd rather have Xenoblade be another Valkyria Chronicles 3? Never to be seen outside of Asia? Yes Operation Rainfall got Nintendo to LOOK for a company to bring it over into the states. It would have been even better if other companies had jumped on the bandwagon EARLIER that Last Story. decry gamestop all you want, the fact is you wanted this game. and you DIDN'T have to go through them to get it, NoA was selling them directly until they ran out of stock as well. Gamestop could have made it so all sales went through them only, but didn't.Tenmar said:
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It's seriously easy to point blame on one singular company, but where does the real fault lie? Game makers are hesitant about making games outside their home company without guaranteed sales. Look at how poorly the Xbox does in japan, to the point where the XB1 isn't even launching there initially. Nintendo had a foothold in America a long time, but Sega's consoles collapsed. Square Enix sold MILLIONS of copies of Tomb Raider, but put so much money into it still fell short of its production value. It's always a risk for a game to be made- some worse than others (Aliens: Colonial Marines, Retribution: Ride to Hell 1%), but some shining stars get overlooked (Namco X series, Metal Saga series, and ALMOST Phoenix Wright X Professor Layton).
Why would a company not want to produce a game? Not because retailers won't sell it- a company makes all their money by selling it TO retailers, like Gamestop, like Wal*Mart, NOT to the consumers- except Nintendo, but they're a special case ^^. Your money goes to big companies ordering more copies in. If the initial load of games doesn't sell out, don't expect a lot of copies to get made. Evil corporations rely on sales to get more product. Sales comes from ... dun dun duuuuun! People.
Xenoblade Chronicles is rare now because more people didn't buy it, not because Nintendo and Gamestop didn't want them to sell. Of course they wanted them to sell, it would have made MORE money- just look at Last of Us for Naughty Dog- still chugging them out, #1 best selling game in the world. How many MILLIONS of GTAV's are preordered? How many CoD games are there anymore, even? People are still buying them, doesn't matter which one. it's CoD, right?
People who want to complain about the price of a great game being high in the pre-owned market (consisting entirely of person to person sales, online bidding sites, pawn stores, and select corporations only), I ask a serious question...
Why didn't you buy it when it was brand new to start with, when it was normal price?
If you already have it, you know it's a great game, and this pricing doesn't affect you at all. Or are you upset that a friend will have to pay that to get it? Why not let them borrow it and see how great it is?
Can't afford the $90 from Gamestop? trade old stuff in. we all know they take in games and stuff. don't want to get rid of your stuff? partner up, split the cost, share the game with a good friend. Enjoy it together.
It's a game. nothing more... nothing less.
I will say I had the chance at playing it. My friend let me borrow the game and I got to play the first mission, but then the disc got errors. I cleaned the disc and tried to get it to work, but still no avail. And it not working with emulators sounds like when I had tried to get the PSX2 emulator to run Klonoa 2, I ripped the ISO from my disc, mainly because the HD PVR 2 would glitch out when trying to record Klonoa 2 Lunatea's Veil. It works now, with some help from a 3rd party HDMI converter, but still.major_chaos said:
I'm planning on saving up to eventually get the game, but what sucks is that it's also stuck in the same limbo that Earthbound was stuck in due to legal issues, otherwise it would have been released on the PSN along with Legends and Legends 2.
Where the hell did that come from? I made absolutely no reference to taxes or shipping. I'm not even talking about the generally higher prices of software, which are currently under a government investigation because taxes and shipping do not justify the higher prices. I'm talking about the fact that rare second hand games frequently sell in store for far more than they did brand new. The original article makes this sound like it's an uncommon practice in the States.WhiteTigerShiro said:
When I saw this, I didn't hesitate to order myself a copy, using the GUST15 discount code and getting the used-game discount. I have no loyalty to Gamestop whatsoever, but I simultaneously have next to zero faith in the half-accountable and oftentimes sloppy used/rare games market that operates on eBay and Amazon. Too often, I've received scratched-up 'disk only, no booklet' sales that were advertised as 'very good' or 'like new'. If Gamestop is simultaneously offering an untouched new copy masquerading as a used copy, yes, it is shady, but in the simplest terms, you are buying a higher-quality product that has a much better return-policy than some Joe Schmo on Amazon who might just choose not to answer your e-mails.
Meanwhile, the entire gaming internet is already up in arms and crying foul because Gamestop is yet again failing to be the progressive-socialist gaming institution that a perfect and balanced 'arts, letters, and leisure' world would properly dictate. The way I see it, Gamestop is as predictable as any other capitalist institution and they simply had their ear to the track on this situation. I don't know the details of the game's stateside publication contracts and so on, but from day one, this title was basically screaming a loud signal that stated 'I'M GOING TO BE CRAZY RARE IN A MATTER OF MONTHS SO BUY ME NOWWWW!!!' that loads of people completely ignored, likely including no small amount of people who probably dabbled in the Operation Rainfall petition. I had wanted the game since it was new on shelves and simply penny-pinched, dithered, and focused on other stuff I was interested in until Xenoblade vanished for good. Buying it now at this new-and-improved price is certainly less than ideal, but I still feel like a smarter consumer than any number of dummies who wait in lines on Black Friday to buy new systems that lack games...or anyone who buys 'new games' at Gamestop.
Meanwhile, the entire gaming internet is already up in arms and crying foul because Gamestop is yet again failing to be the progressive-socialist gaming institution that a perfect and balanced 'arts, letters, and leisure' world would properly dictate. The way I see it, Gamestop is as predictable as any other capitalist institution and they simply had their ear to the track on this situation. I don't know the details of the game's stateside publication contracts and so on, but from day one, this title was basically screaming a loud signal that stated 'I'M GOING TO BE CRAZY RARE IN A MATTER OF MONTHS SO BUY ME NOWWWW!!!' that loads of people completely ignored, likely including no small amount of people who probably dabbled in the Operation Rainfall petition. I had wanted the game since it was new on shelves and simply penny-pinched, dithered, and focused on other stuff I was interested in until Xenoblade vanished for good. Buying it now at this new-and-improved price is certainly less than ideal, but I still feel like a smarter consumer than any number of dummies who wait in lines on Black Friday to buy new systems that lack games...or anyone who buys 'new games' at Gamestop.
Was in a local used games shop a few weeks ago and Earthbound actually went up by $55 after the Wii U release. From $170 to $225.medv4380 said: