Gaming Laptop Clevo P150EM
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Maybe slightly beside the point, but as a laptop gamer something about the way you describe why you need a laptop makes a red light blink in my head.
You see, I get the impression you want one because there's no room for a desktop anywhere. But in my experience, the main dfference between gaming laptops and dekstops is that you can take the laptop from A to B much easier. However, once you want to sit down and play, you need about as much room as a desktop would or you'll be very uncomfortable.
You see, I get the impression you want one because there's no room for a desktop anywhere. But in my experience, the main dfference between gaming laptops and dekstops is that you can take the laptop from A to B much easier. However, once you want to sit down and play, you need about as much room as a desktop would or you'll be very uncomfortable.
Now i understand that Alienware is bad since you pay half the money for brand name, but Dell, while more expensive than average, you actually pay for quality. Asus are good too.Dr_of_Journalism said:
Then again Gaming Laptop is a self defeating term. Desktops are for gaming, not laptops. uneless your gaming consists of "angry birds" type of games.
Alienware is not a good testing base becuase a person has to be either filthy rich or mad to buy their products since you pay half the price for the brand alone. Alienware is the worst possible case for gaming hardware.FranBunnyFFXII said:
Yes, you can pack a 2008 year medium to high desktop in a notebook now. That is hardly a gaming notebook though, as a 2008 year high desktop fails to run the new games now.
And a 4-7 hour battery lifetime is pathetic. if i ever wanted to carry a gaming rig it must either last at least over 10 hours or GTFO. And yes, doubling the wight just to stack more batteries are acceptable for me. Its just that they fail to do it.
Technology progresses and in turns you can make things smaller, but that does not automatically make it better. there is a reason the ntoebook screens are getting larger with every generation. people dont want small things. and you cant carry around a 2 meters wide TV with you. therefore desktop gaming will still live on regardless of your mobile gaming fad.
I personally own a Lenovo Y580, and have been nothing but pleased with it. I can't make any recommendations on the clevo, however.
As far as the specs are concerned, I think it is a little overkill. Your laptop will probably pass away from age (laptops tend to have shorter lifespans than desktops, even if properly maintained) before it becomes truly obsolete, especially if games keep going like they are (design with console's limitations in mind, then work on it for PC). If you want to go with a gaming laptop, I would recommend either the same laptop I got or an asus republic of gamers laptop. Asus has provided pretty good quality laptops for fairly reasonable prices.
As far as the specs are concerned, I think it is a little overkill. Your laptop will probably pass away from age (laptops tend to have shorter lifespans than desktops, even if properly maintained) before it becomes truly obsolete, especially if games keep going like they are (design with console's limitations in mind, then work on it for PC). If you want to go with a gaming laptop, I would recommend either the same laptop I got or an asus republic of gamers laptop. Asus has provided pretty good quality laptops for fairly reasonable prices.
Get a Dell. Reasonable prices, good service, well built machines and the site lets you configure them (mostly).
I don't know where all the Dell hate comes from since I've had 2 Inspiron and a Studio laptop, currently aged 7, 5 and 3. The 7 year old Inspiron still chugs along when asked, my sister uses the 5 year old one and I still use the 3 year old Studio if I'm away from home for more than a day or so. And yes, I use it for gaming!
I never had much on it but a Studio can handle the HL series with absolute ease. It struggles with big games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 but I'll run pretty much any RTS game I've thrown at it. Good little machine IMO.
I don't know where all the Dell hate comes from since I've had 2 Inspiron and a Studio laptop, currently aged 7, 5 and 3. The 7 year old Inspiron still chugs along when asked, my sister uses the 5 year old one and I still use the 3 year old Studio if I'm away from home for more than a day or so. And yes, I use it for gaming!
I never had much on it but a Studio can handle the HL series with absolute ease. It struggles with big games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 but I'll run pretty much any RTS game I've thrown at it. Good little machine IMO.
It has a 640m, so it really isn't going to outperform a dedicated console. In fact, it's basically just an over priced, sized down windows 8 all-in-one PC. Why would I want a 10" device for playing games? Tablets aren't the ideal thing for most games, all I want on my tablet is Angry Birds and maybe a decent RTS or TBS. Maybe a JRPG since the turn based combat is easy on a small screen.FelixG said:Personally, I am looking forward to the Razer Edge.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-edge-pro
Why? Because then I can tease console gamers that even my tablet can beat their console
I guess you could plus it into a monitor or TV, but then why wouldn't I just buy a laptop and a console? Or a PC and a laptop. In fact, for the price of 1 Razer Edge I could probably buy a 360, a decent notebook/ Nexus 10 and a PC.
No. If a dealer manages to sell a car for $80k more than it should retail for, they are the exact opposite of a shit dealer. If Alienware can get away with charging a premium on their products, why shouldn't they? If you ran a company and decided you'd rather take $900 for a laptop rather than $1400, I would question your business nous.Joccaren said:
You are, of course, ignoring the fact that "Shit" is from the perspective of the buyer and not the seller?razer17 said:
Yes that seller stands to make a lot more money if they do sell that car, but in the eyes of the buyer the dealer is shit because they majorly rip you off, not that that's anything new for car salesmen especially.
Of course I'd rather make $1400 selling a laptop over $900, but you tell me you'd rather buy it for the $1400 instead of the $900 for the same product.
Going into more technicalities, no-one ever said that the dealer was able to sell a lot of that damn expensive car - they just price it at that. They could make one or two sales a year on that, which would qualify as a shit dealer for both buyer and seller if we're going that route.
But in this case people are still buying Alienware products. So the seller is no shit. It's naive to assume that businesses shouldn't try to take as much as they can. Now, I'd never buy an Alienware because they are overpriced and I'd refuse to pay it. But people buying Alienware doesn't make them shit from the consumers point of view, it just makes anyone that buys it a bit silly.Joccaren said:
Now, I'm not on about the potential moral implications of deliberately overcharging to maximise profits. That's a whole different argument. Companies charge the highest amount they can, and as such the consumers are at fault, not them. If people stopped buying Alienware, or Apple or whoever elses products, because they cost too much, and they carried on selling at the same price regardless, then they'd be bad salesman.
I'm just saying that in the end of the day, the only thing that dictates a good or bad business is the profit it makes (that's simplistic, but I'm summarising).
Again, disconnect between consumer and business perspectives.razer17 said:
Of course a business should try to make as much money as they can, from a business perspective. From a consumer perspective they should follow the words of Henry Ford: "Make the highest quality of goods possible, at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible."
Basically, make good products for cheap whilst paying your workers well. Sadly most businesses these days go for the exact opposite of this in search for profits; lowest quality of goods, sell for highest price, lowest wages possible.
From a consumer standpoint, its easily seen which the business should do. From a business standpoint, the answer is opposite 'cause they can milk more profit.
And yeah, being overpriced does make them shit from a consumers point of view. 2 Mc Donalds down the road. One sells things for twice the price of the other for no significant quality improvement. Your friend suggests you go to the more expensive one because being more expensive they must be better. You, of course, are going to tell them that that's a bad idea to buy off them, and that they're not that much better they just charge extortionate prices. Why do you tell your friend this, why don't you go to the extortionate prices place? Because from your point of view they are a bad option that will just result in you wasting money you don't need to. You're not commenting on the success of their business, you're commenting on what benefits you.
And again, that's a business vs consumer outlook. From a business perspective, yes, simplistically making a bigger profit is all that matters. From a consumer outlook, you don't care about the business's profit, you care about what you're getting and how much you're getting it for, and that determines who are the good and bad options for you to buy from, and therefore who, in your eyes, are the good and bad businesses for the consumer.