Gaming Mice - Decisions, decisions....

[LoopyDood]

Right now I own a Logitech MX518 mouse. It's a great mouse, but it's deteriorating, and it's too big and oddly shaped to feel comfortable in my hand. As I type this, I am sitting in my school's library using one of the most comfortable of mice I have used in a long time - This $10 Logitech. [http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/338&cl=us,en&readreviews=1]


A bunch of little things bug me about the MX518. The size, the shape and even the texture of the plastic. Most of the problems arise because it was designed for the Palm Grip [http://www.pwngamer.com/system/files/u1/palm_grip.jpg] or Flat Finger Grip. [http://www.pwngamer.com/system/files/u1/flat_finger.jpg] I am most comfortable with the Claw Grip. [http://www.pwngamer.com/system/files/u1/claw_grip.jpg]
It is simply too big for my hand.
The shape is very odd and the side buttons are placed too high for my thumb to comfortably reach.
It has a smooth, plastic exterior (The latex coating wore off) that makes my hand feel very uncomfortable. It's because my palm gets sweaty while using a mouse, which is also the reason I don't like to use shiny plastic guitar picks.

The cheap Logitech mouse I am using is perfectly shape, sized, and feels great. The only problems are that it lacks the precision of the MX518 and side/sensitivity buttons. The plastic is textured and dulled to look at, like the beige plastic old monitors and keyboards have. (A good thing.)

I have narrowed down my choices to the Razer Deathadder and Copperhead. They both appear to be a very similar shape to the Logitech, with the same style of plastic. They are also similar to the MX518 in features and performance. I do not have access to a computer store in my town because I live in the middle of nowhere, and will probably be ordering from a website. Which do you recommend?

 

[LoopyDood]

No one?

 

[LoopyDood]

Forgot about timezones. It`s not morning here. I was just surprised that on such a high traffic forum no one had replied to two hours. I`ll keep that in mind

 

[Aunel]

logitech MX revolution, best mouse ever, good for gaming, even though it's wireless.
lots of fancy buttons, and just nice to hold.

 

[LoopyDood]

logitech MX revolution, best mouse ever, good for gaming, even though it's wireless.
lots of fancy buttons, and just nice to hold.

That looks very similar in design to the MX518. Notice the shape on the $10 Logitech and the Deathadder - That`s what I`m looking for. Ergonomics are more important than frills here.

 

[Phyroxis]

I love my Reaper Edge.. Its my first "Gaming" mouse, I used to use the old Dell laser mouse that came with my tower.. Decided to step it up a notch =P

Sorry I cant offer any advice on your two choices.. all I can say is read a bunch of reviews.

 

[Baneat]

Razer copperhead if you are constantly using the claw. Deathadder is more of a palm-style mouse (Best mouse evar IMO if you are a palmer).

 

[joystickjunki3]

Razer Death Adder.

 

[clarinetJWD]

logitech MX revolution, best mouse ever, good for gaming, even though it's wireless.
lots of fancy buttons, and just nice to hold.

That looks very similar in design to the MX518. Notice the shape on the $10 Logitech and the Deathadder - That`s what I`m looking for. Ergonomics are more important than frills here.

Well, as far as ergonomics go, I haven't ever come across a better mouse. Some think it's too big, but even in my small hands it just feels right. The other possible complaint is that because it's wireless, it is comparatively heavy, but with a slick mousepad, and its large teflon pads, it really isn't a problem.

So another recommendation for the MX Revolution, with some qualifications. My roommate swears by his Razer, which to me is too flat and light, and my other roommate has a gaming mouse by OCZ (don't know the model), but it's a compromise. Bigger, and a little more hefty, but still smaller and lighter than the MX. Just go to a store and hold a few, see what you like.

 

[Baneat]

Don't go for a wireless mouse if you don't want to get your ass handed to you. It feels like you're dragging the cursor around on a string compared to a 1000Hz mouse which feels like it's nailed to the mouse itself.

 

[InProgress]

Go with a cheap one. They're usually the same but at least you know you don't have hesitations when it comes to bin it.

 

[clarinetJWD]

Please...turn up the sensitivity on a quality wireless mouse (RF, not bluetooth), and there's no way you'll notice any lag. The only disadvantage is the weight if you like light mouses.

 

[LoopyDood]

logitech MX revolution, best mouse ever, good for gaming, even though it's wireless.
lots of fancy buttons, and just nice to hold.

That looks very similar in design to the MX518. Notice the shape on the $10 Logitech and the Deathadder - That`s what I`m looking for. Ergonomics are more important than frills here.

Well, as far as ergonomics go, I haven't ever come across a better mouse. Some think it's too big, but even in my small hands it just feels right. The other possible complaint is that because it's wireless, it is comparatively heavy, but with a slick mousepad, and its large teflon pads, it really isn't a problem.

So another recommendation for the MX Revolution, with some qualifications. My roommate swears by his Razer, which to me is too flat and light, and my other roommate has a gaming mouse by OCZ (don't know the model), but it's a compromise. Bigger, and a little more hefty, but still smaller and lighter than the MX. Just go to a store and hold a few, see what you like.

That`s the problem - My MX518 is too ergonomic. It forces you to use the mouse in a particular way else it`s very uncomfortable. The MX Revolution looks even worse for that.

 

[MagnetoHydroDynamics]

Try aligning yourself to the flat-finger grip; It gives better reaction times and less wrist aches. Also I have the same mouse as you and I am never gonna quit that shit, nuh-uh.

 

[Quel0]

The razer lachesis can be found for a good deal sometimes around 45... I love my lachesis, they just released a new wireless dealy, but i find that I'm not too fond of it's right handed shape.

My favorite mice in order

Razer Lachesis (blue should have gotten white)
Razer Copperhead (red)
Saitek GM-2 (the last great ball mouse imo)
Razer Boomslang (green) (i'm still not keen on optical)

Mice I've owned

Logitech MX510
Logitech MX518 (i ended up selling these after i found that the reason my arm hurt was b/c of their shape)
IBM classic ball mouse
a slew of various logitech and microsoft cheap mice

a mouse is very personal... you have to spend a good week with it before knowing if you like it... i took a dive with a ambidextrous mouse and haven't had problems since. Razer isn't all glory and awesomenes... they're overpriced and glitzy.. but they do just fine for me.

 

[Horticulture]

I replaced my Logitech mouse of about the same design as the one you linked (it's white and silver, and might be a little less curved-about 8 years old) with a Razer Diamondback which I found to be immediately comfortable. The side buttons are sort of awkwardly placed, but I haven't felt the need to use them, either. Overall, I'm happy with it. I wasn't able to try many other mice, but I have used a few G5s (I, too, find them bulky) and a Lachesis (felt weird in my hand). Logitech makes a mouse called the G3, which is basically a laser version of that mouse you linked to.

I'm a little confused by the grips. I can see how the claw works (though I can't imagine it being comfortable), but I can't tell what the flat finger is doing. Is the palm resting on the mouse, or is it being held by the fingertips alone? At any rate, I hold my mouse with my fingertips and guide it loosely over a small area. I didn't even realize people had devised names for these, but now I'm intrigued to know what my style is called.

 

[LoopyDood]

The razer lachesis can be found for a good deal sometimes around 45... I love my lachesis, they just released a new wireless dealy, but i find that I'm not too fond of it's right handed shape.

I looked up a couple of reviews. Apparently it's just like the Deathadder in form, but is slightly shorter and has nicer features. Looking at a comparison picture, the Lachesis has a slightly odd shape while the Deathadder is more curvy.

I replaced my Logitech mouse of about the same design as the one you linked (it's white and silver, and might be a little less curved-about 8 years old) with a Razer Diamondback which I found to be immediately comfortable. The side buttons are sort of awkwardly placed, but I haven't felt the need to use them, either. Overall, I'm happy with it. I wasn't able to try many other mice, but I have used a few G5s (I, too, find them bulky) and a Lachesis (felt weird in my hand). Logitech makes a mouse called the G3, which is basically a laser version of that mouse you linked to.

I'm a little confused by the grips. I can see how the claw works (though I can't imagine it being comfortable), but I can't tell what the flat finger is doing. Is the palm resting on the mouse, or is it being held by the fingertips alone? At any rate, I hold my mouse with my fingertips and guide it loosely over a small area. I didn't even realize people had devised names for these, but now I'm intrigued to know what my style is called.

You use the claw style, exactly the same as me. The picture exaggerates it, it's mainly about controlling the mouse with just your fingers.

 

[Horticulture]

You use the claw style, exactly the same as me. The picture exaggerates it, it's mainly about controlling the mouse with just your fingers.

Excellent. Claw is by far the cooler name.

 

[Quel0]

the lachesis is just like the copperhead but without the rubber bumps on the side, the right and left buttons dont bridge in the front of the wheel, and there's a lip at the end of the buttons that make it nice for claw grip or a hybrid with claw. it is ambidextrous, unlike the adder

 

[Count_de_Monet]

I just got a Lachesis a little while ago and I love it. It took me a while to get used to it in CS but now when I try to go back to a regular mouse it feels so sluggish. Also, I don't have such an exaggerated "claw" grip as in the picture but I definitely hover my palm over the mouse and move it around with my thumb and pinky and the Lachesis is comfortable when used that way.