Kwil said:
Some interesting stuff.
The second concept is of course important because of the nature of specialization. In Eve, everybody starts out exactly as capable as anybody else. Which means that any particular lacks in the market have nothing to do with natural ability. Yet as we all know, some people simply are able to do certain things better than others in the real world.
People who are smart in real life, are smart in Eve. People who are dumb in real life, are most likely dumb in Eve.(Although there are hardly any dumb people who play Eve)
*This is a story a friend of mine who plays the game very much told me, so it may not be accurate on details*
A group of guys from a corp(Clan) infiltrated another corp, by joining their ranks as regular members. It took them months to do so properly, but in the end, they robbed the other corp and stormed off with valuable ships and loot.
Smart people in real life do smart things. Smart people in Eve do smart things.
Also, like any RPG, each player can take a role, and act accordingly, mine or be a fighter or whatever you want to do. Be a banker if you want, it's all up to you.
Some people are good miners. Some people or groups are good fighters. There is a difference in skills in this game from player to player. So you can have a good guy, helping people, or a bad guy, that tricks and robs you. Just like in real life.
Do you play Eve? I ask because you don't seem to understand how open this game is...
This may not be the real world in a box with space ships. But this is the most realistic SIMULATION, of a real life economy. Like Eyjo said, it's like an experiment. And like all experiments, it is fixed and controlled. But only to the point that the experiment is actually valid.
"The first concept is critically important because it pulls a lot of emotion out of the decision making process. Since that is inherently part of our nature, to suggest then that the Eve deregulated model is akin to what we'd see when real lives and the threat of hunger was on the line really doesn't seem very applicable."
Assuming you are a gamer, you should know that there is just as much emotion and such in video games, as in real life.
The hunger point has not much to do with economy. He is talking about western economy from a digital stand point, not the hunger that may come with it...
"And of course the third point is very important because, as far as I've been able to see, economic differences in Eve are more likely to lead to war than they are here. No doubt were death permanent, people would be a lot more reluctant to push forward for the "ultimate solution" to an economic grievance. This also tends to adjust the economy -- people are more willing to get along or simply let things go in the real world."
Ummm, no? This is a game, that the players of the game almost control. Hate they have in the real world is of course there in the game. The player is human, in-game as he is human in real life.
And as for the "People are more willing to get along..." Have you ever opened a book containing something called HISTORY? Hate is more powerful than the need for food.Some people in say Afghanistan live in holes inside mountains just so that they can fight the enemy. Other people send their children into coffee shops or whatever just so that they can blow themselves up for a fight or cause that is so old that no one remembers why they started fighting(Or causing... ?) in the first place.
Consider your argument misinformed.
For the record I'm not an Eve fan-boy. But I have at least played through the trial period and actually know something more than just what this video said in 5 minutes about a game that takes 5 days to understand the basics of the game.( And even from there on there is a LOT to learn )
"is there a banking/loaning system in Eve?"
There may not be a preset developer made "system" for loaning and banking. But I did know some basic "bankers". And like in any RPG, of course you can loan money, and take loans from other players, like in any RPG.
You can even buy insurance for your spaceship( Which is developer made (So it is a "system if you may)).
