Gene Simmons Declares War on Anonymous

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

As much as I disagree with Gene's hardline views on piracy, I hope the planets align and he stomps on Anon's throat, wearing these boots:

Appropriately, my info says those are the boots from the album 'Destroyer'

As far as I'm concerned they're nothing but a load of bored arseholes that need flogged into line.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

We need more people like this. Anonymous has gotten too cocky and too big for their boots. It's time to remind eople that there is no such thing as total internet anonymity, and you can't just go aruond breaking the law whenever you feel like it, or because somebody 'dared to invoke your name.'

 

[Random berk]

huge wall of quotes

Actually, nevermind. I was just halfway through repeating what I said again and then I realised that you won't get what I'm trying to say anyway. I don't know why your response was so hostile when I never disagreed with anything you said in the first place. Perhaps you lack the "mental fortitude" to understand that.

Suffice it to say that you totally missed my point and I never said anything about whether I think downloading music is ok or not. Simply put: "Losses" is the wrong word. Actually, there. That's my point. Yes, it's irrelevant to "the discussion" but I don't recall participating in whatever discussion you're apparently in anyway. You just keep misinterpreting my every post and frankly, I don't see a reason to keep justifying myself here.

I don't know who you are, but what you just said is way more respectable than that huge wall of quotes you just quoted.

 

[Smallells]

*Gene Simmons has alerted the horde*.

Basically, this.
Simmons might be able to do some damage and then escape with his life but in the long run he'll lose. There'll just be too many zombies to 'sue' that he will actually be able to form a coherant plan to stop them all.

Wait, did I say zombies or people?

Also, do you think that'll hold up in court?
"Mr Cooper, you are twelve years of age, correct?
"That is correct"
"And you stole a song worth seventy-nine pence according to the standards of itunes, correct?"
"That is also correct"
"I move to fine him twelve thousand pounds"
um, no Gene. Just.....no.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

This should be good. I dunno who I'd want to win... either way, I'll get the popcorn!

 

[Padwolf]

Hmm this should be an interesting battle, I think I would quite like to see him beat them, see Anonymous put down a peg or two

 

[Random berk]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Gene Simmons doesn't take shit. We all know this. He's too big to fuck with. You don't dare fuck with him. If he says he's gonna do something, he's going to do it.

Bring out the pop corn, this is gonna be AWESOME!

You do realize he is going to lose regardless.

You do realilze I've made ultiple posts, one of them detailing that gene won't attack and pick of Anonymous, but attack those DISTRIBUTING first. He's not an idiot

Read all my posts before attempting to simply denounce one statement

Meh. That would take effort.

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

We're sorta like that. Well, some of us are. Anonymous is not a set entity. I my opinion anonymous is possibly the most ascended of the ascended memes. You may want to read a book (or a Wikipedia article) on memetics to understand what I mean by that.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

Gene Simmons doesn't take shit. We all know this. He's too big to fuck with. You don't dare fuck with him. If he says he's gonna do something, he's going to do it.

Bring out the pop corn, this is gonna be AWESOME!

You do realize he is going to lose regardless.

You do realilze I've made ultiple posts, one of them detailing that gene won't attack and pick of Anonymous, but attack those DISTRIBUTING first. He's not an idiot

Read all my posts before attempting to simply denounce one statement

Meh. That would take effort.

Well then here you go

I do love how people are shoving this to extremes. Everyone says he's going to go after people who download one or two songs. MAYBE that is the case, but don't you think he'll go after distributors, MASS pirates, and the other people doing this on a mass scale before he goes after people that pirate one or two songs?

Thats something I hadn't thought of before, but makes much more sense.
If he went after the sites that host pirated stuff, that would be much easier to do than fight Anonymous.
But that is not the title of this thread is it?

NNO it's it's not the title of the thread, but it's what he said he'd do. Go after everyone who pirates and steals. He never said "Those anonymous sons of bitches are going down. You need a plan to work off of. You don't just shove your dick in a beehive and hope they suffocate. You work systematically. Wading into something without a plan is an idiot's idea, and it's not the way Gene Simmons thinks.

He'll probably go after the major people first, and when they find stupider and stupider ways to attack him (rather than redirecting him to Piratebay because he might try to get that closed first), he'll starting hitting at them.

Everyone assume he's just going to ATTACK Anon with no idea of what he's doing. The man is not stupid.

 

[Popido]

Silly anonymous.

Humanity makes an really crappy singularity. Should just wait till we have robots to do thinking for us.

Anyways, this seems rather interesting. Personally, I hope for truce.

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

We're sorta like that. Well, some of us are. Anonymous is not a set entity. I my opinion anonymous is possibly the most ascended of the ascended memes. You may want to read a book (or a Wikipedia article) on memetics to understand what I mean by that.

The only thing that brings anons together is a common goal. Be it bringing down Scientology or producing "epic lulz" via closing the pool. But don't take my word for it. Who Anonymous is is always interperated differently. Anons themselves are rather factional at times. Just lurk around Encyclopaedia Dramatica or find a smaller chan (short for "channel") that isn't clogged with porn. I recommended 99chan and auschan. And I apologize for my spelling.

 

[leirbag]

Anonymous is pretty much invincible. Just politely turn around and leave, Mr. Simmons.

 

[Random berk]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

We're sorta like that. Well, some of us are. Anonymous is not a set entity. I my opinion anonymous is possibly the most ascended of the ascended memes. You may want to read a book (or a Wikipedia article) on memetics to understand what I mean by that.

What I understand of Anonymous is that they are not an entity in that they do not have a leader, or leaders, nor a system by which their members are notified of a campaign or suggested actions, or even members in the strict sense of the word. What they really are is a conglomeration of people who individually decide to take action against someone for reasons of their own, and do it by helping these other like minded people to crash a website, or carry out whatever action is planned. The name Anonymous comes from the fact that they all hided their identities and use the name Aonymous instead. The people who have used this name have never all taken part in one campaign, and often, a few may carry one out with the vast majority never hearing of it. There aren't any regular members of Anonymous, just people who get involved for the one incident which they are interested in, but they do share one thing in common. Members of Anonymous tend to communicate and organise their actions on $Chan, which has a reputation as a kind of headquarters.

Am I correct in saying all this, or am I completely off the ball?

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

We're sorta like that. Well, some of us are. Anonymous is not a set entity. I my opinion anonymous is possibly the most ascended of the ascended memes. You may want to read a book (or a Wikipedia article) on memetics to understand what I mean by that.

The only thing that brings anons together is a common goal. Be it bringing down Scientology or producing "epic lulz" via closing the pool. But don't take my word for it. Who Anonymous is is always interperated differently. Anons themselves are rather factional at times. Just lurk around Encyclopaedia Dramatica or find a smaller chan (short for "channel") that isn't clogged with porn. I recommended 99chan and auschan. And I apologize for my spelling.

And to be honest. The only thing that will kill Anonymus is age. If they become phased out of internet lore them persons such as myself will never hear about them and as such will never take the mantle. And now I've had that strange thought again: The only criteria for becoming Anonymous is to declare yourself Anonymous. Therefor all sentient beings have the potential to be Anonymous. It's (sort of) a Schrodinger's cat paradox? When does one become an anon?

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

We're sorta like that. Well, some of us are. Anonymous is not a set entity. I my opinion anonymous is possibly the most ascended of the ascended memes. You may want to read a book (or a Wikipedia article) on memetics to understand what I mean by that.

What I understand of Anonymous is that they are not an entity in that they do not have a leader, or leaders, nor a system by which their members are notified of a campaign or suggested actions, or even members in the strict sense of the word. What they really are is a conglomeration of people who individually decide to take action against someone for reasons of their own, and do it by helping these other like minded people to crash a website, or carry out whatever action is planned. The name Anonymous comes from the fact that they all hided their identities and use the name Aonymous instead. The people who have used this name have never all taken part in one campaign, and often, a few may carry one out with the vast majority never hearing of it. There aren't any regular members of Anonymous, just people who get involved for the one incident which they are interested in, but they do share one thing in common. Members of Anonymous tend to communicate and organise their actions on $Chan, which has a reputation as a kind of headquarters.

Am I correct in saying all this, or am I completely off the ball?

You're mostly right. Though there are regular members. And Anonymus is really just a vehicle for an idea or a movement. Generally when something really big happens there is a certain level of organization. Operation Payback has dedicated websites to coordinate DOS and DDOS attacks. Project Chanology got so organized some anons questioned weather it was no longer run by Anonymus.

 

[Kolossov]

It appears that in the original article our friend Andy Chalk has confused having "a huge Type-A personality" with just being a ****.

 

[Derek Million]

We need more people like this. Anonymous has gotten too cocky and too big for their boots. It's time to remind eople that there is no such thing as total internet anonymity, and you can't just go aruond breaking the law whenever you feel like it, or because somebody 'dared to invoke your name.'

Lolwut?

Do you even know -why- Anonymous is attacking Gene Simmons and the other entities in their sights? They're not doing it because they feel like it (for the most part), they're doing it because -they- struck first. Basically, I see it kind of like this: A big dog keeps licking a small dog until it gets kicked in the face. Then the big dog belly flops the fuck out of the little dog.

Yes, I know my analogies suck, don't remind me.

 

[Random berk]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

We're sorta like that. Well, some of us are. Anonymous is not a set entity. I my opinion anonymous is possibly the most ascended of the ascended memes. You may want to read a book (or a Wikipedia article) on memetics to understand what I mean by that.

What I understand of Anonymous is that they are not an entity in that they do not have a leader, or leaders, nor a system by which their members are notified of a campaign or suggested actions, or even members in the strict sense of the word. What they really are is a conglomeration of people who individually decide to take action against someone for reasons of their own, and do it by helping these other like minded people to crash a website, or carry out whatever action is planned. The name Anonymous comes from the fact that they all hided their identities and use the name Aonymous instead. The people who have used this name have never all taken part in one campaign, and often, a few may carry one out with the vast majority never hearing of it. There aren't any regular members of Anonymous, just people who get involved for the one incident which they are interested in, but they do share one thing in common. Members of Anonymous tend to communicate and organise their actions on $Chan, which has a reputation as a kind of headquarters.

Am I correct in saying all this, or am I completely off the ball?

You're mostly right. Though there are regular members. And Anonymus is really just a vehicle for an idea or a movement. Generally when something really big happens there is a certain level of organization. Operation Payback has dedicated websites to coordinate DOS and DDOS attacks. Project Chanology got so organized some anons questioned weather it was no longer run by Anonymus.

Ah, then I have a fairly good idea of how things like Operation Payback and Project Chanology work. They sound much more serious than Anonymous in its neutral state anyway. On the original point of getting into a net war with one of these mass Anonymous movements, I think the anti guerilla approach could work. If 4Chan was taken out of the picture, as well as sites like the one you mentioned earlier, then they couldn't organise. Meanwhile, if you simply kept repairing websites that they crash, instead of trying to make them more secure, you just bore the less idealistic members rather than providing an interesting challenge. You'd have to leave individual members alone, because you'd risk martyring them without making a dent in the main body of Anonymous, like Gene Simmons risks doing. Yes, I think these Operations could be foiled, with the right approach.

Incidentally, I'm just idly making up scenarios here, since I'm supposed to be working on a project and have no idea where to begin. I'm not trying to sound like a badass by talking about how to beat Anon or anything.

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Anonymous probably can be beaten, but not by Gene Simmons, unless he turns out to be the internet incarnation of Sun Tzu. From what I know of Anonymous, their campaigns are organised guerilla style. With an intelligent strategy, you could hit them hard enough to at least make them think twice about what they're doing, but the way Simmons obviously intends to confront them will just entertain them. Its the same way anyone they harass tries to fight them, and its completely the wrong approach.

We're sorta like that. Well, some of us are. Anonymous is not a set entity. I my opinion anonymous is possibly the most ascended of the ascended memes. You may want to read a book (or a Wikipedia article) on memetics to understand what I mean by that.

What I understand of Anonymous is that they are not an entity in that they do not have a leader, or leaders, nor a system by which their members are notified of a campaign or suggested actions, or even members in the strict sense of the word. What they really are is a conglomeration of people who individually decide to take action against someone for reasons of their own, and do it by helping these other like minded people to crash a website, or carry out whatever action is planned. The name Anonymous comes from the fact that they all hided their identities and use the name Aonymous instead. The people who have used this name have never all taken part in one campaign, and often, a few may carry one out with the vast majority never hearing of it. There aren't any regular members of Anonymous, just people who get involved for the one incident which they are interested in, but they do share one thing in common. Members of Anonymous tend to communicate and organise their actions on $Chan, which has a reputation as a kind of headquarters.

Am I correct in saying all this, or am I completely off the ball?

You're mostly right. Though there are regular members. And Anonymus is really just a vehicle for an idea or a movement. Generally when something really big happens there is a certain level of organization. Operation Payback has dedicated websites to coordinate DOS and DDOS attacks. Project Chanology got so organized some anons questioned weather it was no longer run by Anonymus.

I had something clever-sounding in here about the link between chans and anonymus but I momenteraly lost internetz. Chans are where the consept/meme comes from.