you know, one would have an easier time believing that if some actual evidence to substansiate said claim was provided.fenrizz said:Which was an advertised feature.
you know, one would have an easier time believing that if some actual evidence to substansiate said claim was provided.fenrizz said:Which was an advertised feature.
And there's no way in Hell that Stewart Kellar could have been telling him with a straight face that there was even a remote chance of winning. You just have to look at the "strategy" they were employing (e.g., obvious lies like "I've never heard of SCEA before now" and "I'm George's neighbor and the PS3 that that was connected to his ISP was mine because my ISP wasn't yet up and running so I borrowed his" and tampering with physical evidence ordered produced by the Court and leaving the country when you knew you had to be available for a deposition, etc., etc., etc.) to know that these were desperate measures being used by desperate people. There is no way George Hotz seriously thought he was going to go all the way and prevail over Sony. Hell, no. He knew early on in the game that he held a hand of cards that didn't even contain a pair of threes against Sony's royal straight flush in spades.Awexsome said:Ah the telltale thing fans do when their team sucks. Blame the refs.
A perfect analogy to somebody with a weak stance in a court case. Blame the judges.
There are ways to protest the things Sony have done in the name of fighting piracy but Geo had lost from the get-go on this one. He probably at least used a bit of that donation money on his lawyers for a little while so they could advise him, "Dude, you won't win this. You're wrong. Settle out of court while you can."
OK, then here's a simple question for you:Tenmar said:I'm actually well aware of that but if I may ask you a question. Are you really going to let one mistake be the judgement point to prevent the only organization that is trying to promote a positive face on gaming and the rights of gamers to not give them or anyone else a second chance? Would you not pursue love if your first experience was a bad one? Or give a food that you hate due to bad cooking?JDKJ said:The Entertainment Consumers Association?! Are you kidding?! Those guy have a worse record for screwing over their members than Sony has for screwing over their customers. Don't believe me? Then just google "ECA" AND "Amazon" AND "discounts" AND "renew" and take a look at your search results (e.g., http://consumerist.com/2009/12/eca-tries-to-prevent-members-from-canceling.html).
Also do note that what you are so angry about started as a promotion gone awry. When Amazon offered memberships there was a flood of gamers that signed up. However the current system the ECA had was admittedly archaic because the ECA is still something very new. So when the free memberships wore off fellow gamers were not pleased that unknown to them that they suddenly had money take form them after putting in credit card information supporting an organization that advocates consumer rights for gamers.
I will admit that mistakes were made but also note that with the ECA's growth and now that the ECA can actually offer such promotions the system has improved and gives a lot more control to members should they wish to continue their membership.
Nothing is perfect the first time around and in order to grow sometimes mistakes like that will happen and hopefully not repeat themselves. One mistake over an attempt for the first time to actually offer discount memberships should not be the judgement point to support or not support an organization like the ECA.
I can agree that the ECA was not prepared. I can respect that if you don't agree with supporting the ECA over their goals or philosophy that you would choose not to support them. However, a mistake in an effort to grow should not be the point where you should make that critical judgement call. What is the Escapist membership made the same mistake where supporters of the escapist could only cancel by mail. Would you stop going to this website? Something tells me you wouldn't stop.
Since when did PS3 have DRM?Xvito said:This guy is awesome! Why do you guys dislike him so much?
Sony has got some big fucking issues when it comes to DRM and the likes, so it is only good when someone calls them out on their crap; especially if they also hack their products.
I love that he says "You'll just have to trust me." Seeing as last time the community trusted him, he said :Greg Tito said:Hotz promised more information would be forthcoming, but he asked everyone to trust him for now. "It definitely was not a waste, I assure you," he said. "I am fighting your fight, in the best way I know how. You'll just have to trust me."
And we all see how well that went.What if SCEA tries to settle?
Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted.
Since initial launch. Although that's not what SCEA calls it, they call it "TPN." But six o' one, half dozen o' the other. Same thing: software code that thwarts, at least in theory, the ability to play pirated materials with a PS3. That would be the thing that SCEA claimed the Hotz hack circumvented.Macrobstar said:Since when did PS3 have DRM?Xvito said:This guy is awesome! Why do you guys dislike him so much?
Sony has got some big fucking issues when it comes to DRM and the likes, so it is only good when someone calls them out on their crap; especially if they also hack their products.
Nice defence, Geohot.Greg Tito said:"That's one way to look at it," George responded. "Another way is that they are saving their strength for games where the refs aren't biased and that actually have much more importance to the rest of the season."
I don't think Sony could possibly do more harm to Hotz than he's done to himself. Every time that kid opens his mouth, a shotgun magically appears from it and discharges a load of double-oh buckshot into his foot.Baradiel said:This is getting interesting. It might end up with Hotz turning all his supporters against him.
Sony may have done him more harm this way, than making him a martyr.
What good has ever come of someone shooting him--- Who has ever shot himself in the arse?thenewprince said:Yeah buddy, I work in PR and I'm well aware that you and the less that .005% of the people who buy sony products that intend on following you probably will give in after 5 years. Since I love my PS3, Plus what SCEO produces. Go ahead and shoot yourself in the ass I'm going....to just be over here watching...
Sure they have the right to protect their buisness from piracy.Macrobstar said:What you don't see sony in the right for trying protect there business from piracy? Also if you bought a PS3 just to run linux then you're a bit of an idiotfenrizz said:so what if other people use it to pirate games?zombie711 said:i never liked this guy. he's smart enough to jail break the ps3 but not smart enough to relise pirates will use it to pirate games?
It is his legally bought hardware, and he ought to do what he damn well please with it.
Which in his case is installing Linux on it.
Which was an advertised feature that Sony later removed.
Thank the gods I live in a country where my personal property is mine to do with as I see fit.
Drunk rednecks. Likely immediately preceded by "Hey, ya'll! Watch this!"Nikolaz72 said:Who has ever shot himself in the arse?