Germs and You

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Azure-Supernova

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So I'm at college doing a Level 3 Diploma in Childcare and Education and in one of our units we had to cover health and safety, which I thought fair enough. But when we started looking at some of the procedures and do's and don'ts, well I have to say I felt like laughing.

Let me give you an example. When you were a kid, did you ever junk model in school? You know, PVA glue, glitter and boxes and toilet roll tubs? Desperate attempts to mimmick Neil Buchanan's awesome space rocket pencil holder? So I found out that because of health and safety, we're not allowed to use toilet roll tubes in junk modelling anymore.

I also had to sit through a two hour lecture on germs and then I was taugh the corret way to wash my hands. Wash my own fucking hands! Afterwards we were al given tissues and a bottle of alcohol hand antiseptic. Now I'm all for hygiene, I was my hands after I've been to the loo and all, but it seems to be getting slighty out of hand. What does the escapist think about this? Is it good that we're getting a little more cautious about germs or is it just plain stupidity?
 

Cargando

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That is very, very thick. It's a grain of knowledge that has been seized upon to build up an entire bullshit idea.

In any case, the toilet, when flushed, sprays millions of tiny water droplets all over the bathroom containing urine, faeces etc. So, basically everything in your bathroom is covered in bacteria. And that includes the toothbrushes. Err, I just realised... I've been rambling a bit so let me cut this short: We manage fine defending against bacteria everyday without the need of health & safety things like that. [sub/]I need some sleep...[/sub]
 

Cherry Cola

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It is stupid! We don't need help with germs, we survived the black death and we can do so again!

Where are my black rats!?
 

Azure-Supernova

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So it's not just me. She gave me a refer for that unit, though that could have been because I used George Carlin as a reference in my essay.
 

cuddly_tomato

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Humans are actually weakening their immune systems by over-sanitising their living areas. Alergies are on the rise in the western world, natural immunties down.

A bit of dirt never hurt anybody.
 

orangebandguy

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It's pretty daft, I don't understand it myself. Enough with health and safety pointlessness and political correctness dammit.
 

Starnerf

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Cargando said:
That is very, very thick. It's a grain of knowledge that has been seized upon to build up an entire bullshit idea.

In any case, the toilet, when flushed, sprays millions of tiny water droplets all over the bathroom containing urine, faeces etc. So, basically everything in your bathroom is covered in bacteria. And that includes the toothbrushes. Err, I just realised... I've been rambling a bit so let me cut this short: We manage fine defending against bacteria everyday without the need of health & safety things like that. [sub/]I need some sleep...[/sub]
Maybe your toilet ruins your toothbrushes. I use separate bathrooms for dental and excretory hygiene.
 

Azure-Supernova

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cuddly_tomato said:
Humans are actually weakening their immune systems by over-sanitising their living areas. Alergies are on the rise in the western world, natural immunties down.

A bit of dirt never hurt anybody.
Well it seems that Government policy says otherwise. Did you know that Primary School children in the UK, are taught to wash their hands for the same amount of time, as it takes them to sing "Happy Birthday".
 

Cargando

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Starnerf said:
Cargando said:
That is very, very thick. It's a grain of knowledge that has been seized upon to build up an entire bullshit idea.

In any case, the toilet, when flushed, sprays millions of tiny water droplets all over the bathroom containing urine, faeces etc. So, basically everything in your bathroom is covered in bacteria. And that includes the toothbrushes. Err, I just realised... I've been rambling a bit so let me cut this short: We manage fine defending against bacteria everyday without the need of health & safety things like that. [sub/]I need some sleep...[/sub]
Maybe your toilet ruins your toothbrushes. I use separate bathrooms for dental and excretory hygiene.
Lucky you, I could use the toilet in the garage, but the spiders seem to have claimed it as their city...
 

Azure-Supernova

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Cargando said:
In any case, the toilet, when flushed, sprays millions of tiny water droplets all over the bathroom containing urine, faeces etc. So, basically everything in your bathroom is covered in bacteria. And that includes the toothbrushes. Err, I just realised... I've been rambling a bit so let me cut this short: We manage fine defending against bacteria everyday without the need of health & safety things like that. [sub/]I need some sleep...[/sub]
Actually thinking about that, I'm sure they proved that in Mythbusters...
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
cuddly_tomato said:
Humans are actually weakening their immune systems by over-sanitising their living areas. Alergies are on the rise in the western world, natural immunties down.

A bit of dirt never hurt anybody.
Well it seems that Government policy says otherwise. Did you know that Primary School children in the UK, are taught to wash their hands for the same amount of time, as it takes them to sing "Happy Birthday".
Government policy, especially here in the UK, usually runs contrary to reality.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2329502/oversanitizing_our_environment_why.html?cat=5
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1602550/over_sanitizing_can_be_very_dangerous.html
http://www.emaxhealth.com/1506/50/34483/food-allergies-rise-us-children.html

It is certainly true that some of the food my grand-parents wolfed down would make the children of today nauseous, and we in the developed world definitely have a lower tolerance towards hard water than people in the poorer nations. More study is probably needed, but I think that germophobia (or whatever it is) has reache ironically epidemic proportions in the west. Possibly fueled by all of those disinfectant ads screaming that people will die unless we buy their products.
 

ButanicXpandA

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are you paying for that part of the course?

yeah thats pretty dumb, its common sense they are teaching you pretty much.
 

Kodlak

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This is just being over-protective, kids need to have contact with germs! Otherwise we will just have a generation with weak immune systems and could die from a cold. The only thing I can agree with is the toilet roll bit, but only if the person who used it had salmonella or flu or something.
 

Azure-Supernova

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ButanicXpandA said:
are you paying for that part of the course?

yeah thats pretty dumb, its common sense they are teaching you pretty much.
No, I'm just 17 so my tuition is all free still. And yeah, tell me about it.
 

Davey Woo

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Being overly "clean" with kids is supposed to be bad for them anyway, washing your hands normally (soap on your hands, rinse off) is better than using SUPA-DUPA ANTISCEPTIC KILLS EVERYTHING ON CONTACT soap.
 

Liam1390

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Studying Culinary Arts in college I needed to take a sanitation course. We were taught things like how to properly wash your hands, but when working with food your dealing with bacteria that could potentially kill some people. Taking a sanitation course for your purposes makes no sense at all. People are being protecting children way too much, children need to be exposed to some level of bacteria so there immune system doesn't collapse every time they have a cold.
 

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pete240 said:
Cargando said:
That is very, very thick. It's a grain of knowledge that has been seized upon to build up an entire bullshit idea.

In any case, the toilet, when flushed, sprays millions of tiny water droplets all over the bathroom containing urine, faeces etc. So, basically everything in your bathroom is covered in bacteria. And that includes the toothbrushes. Err, I just realised... I've been rambling a bit so let me cut this short: We manage fine defending against bacteria everyday without the need of health & safety things like that. [sub/]I need some sleep...[/sub]
simple solution flush with the toilet seat down.
Wouldn't work: there are gaps between the seat and the bowl.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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I present you with 6 items you touch every day that are filthier than a toilet [http://www.cracked.com/article_17495_6-items-you-touch-everyday-that-are-filthier-than-toilet.html].

Guess what the very first one was? Soap! More specifically, refillable soap dispensers.
 

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cuddly_tomato said:
Humans are actually weakening their immune systems by over-sanitising their living areas. Alergies are on the rise in the western world, natural immunties down.

A bit of dirt never hurt anybody.
This.

I mean obviously if you sneeze try and catch it in a tissue, but if you were raised in a completely sterile environment, you would not do very well in the real world.