Get Custom Shoes Made From Genetically-Engineered Stingrays

[Hattingston]

This kind of putting me off abit. I don't like the idea of some Stingray get some pattern I wanted on it, killed and parts or most of it will become footwear for my feet. No I ain't a peachy animal right activists but I don't personally want an animal to be killed to become my clothing.

Do you wear or use leather in any form? Or any other clothing made from animal products?

Not quite the same. If I buy a leather jacket, that cow is dead. Not buying the jacket will not resurrect it. These shoes result in a unique species being bred, raised and killed because I want to make shoes out of its skin. On a related note, while the concept of custom leather is cool, the means seem...disturbing.

It is, actually. Sting Rays ARE edible and are served all around the world. Most likely, they just threw the skin away previously and have now just come up with a way to use that as well. Not any different from a cow when you think about it.

From what I understand, this is talking about genetically engineering a stingray to look a specific way so that you can kill it and then make shoes out of it. Not using stingray skins left over from stingrays killed for their meat. This is discussing making a custom order genetically engineered stingray grown for the sole purpose of turning it into an article of clothing. When I buy a leather jacket, I don't tell them to create a cow to x specification, raise it and then kill it and make it into a jacket. My problem with this is the idea of creating something just so you can kill it later. Seems kinda horrible.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?

If they still need a brand name they could call them "Air Irwin's"

 

[VoidWanderer]

*Sits down with popcorn and waits for Animal Rights groups to hear bout this*

This is gonna get interesting.

Anyone want some?

*Offers popcorn*

 

[Solo-Wing]

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?

With these his sole could rest in piece.

Ba dum tish.

Wow talk about PETA bait. Anybody taking bets on how fast they will get on this?

 

[RaNDM G]

Wow talk about PETA bait. Anybody taking bets on how fast they will get on this?

30 bucks. Tomorrow by sundown.

 

[Mariakko]

"Wow, You can change the colour of a stingray through genetics? That's impressive, you must be pretty good at what you do. Could you perhaps do something more useful to humanity though?"
If this is real, when animal rights activists find this there will be an absolute shit storm.

 

[Saulkar]

"Wow, You can change the colour of a stingray through genetics? That's impressive, you must be pretty good at what you do. Could you perhaps do something more useful to humanity though?"
If this is real, when animal rights activists find this there will be an absolute shit storm.

Someone actually did such a thing. But 4 out of ten patients developed leukemia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_engineering

There are other less risky techniques being developed with promising results.

 

[algalon]

If I could afford a pair I'd buy the shoes and try to get a third as a live specimen. What pattern? Cobra of course! I shall breed my cobra-rays as I make plans from my super-secret submerged base beneath the great barrier reef to take over Australia with an army of Cobra Rays. First Australia, then THE WORLD! Cobralalalalala!

 

[Elamdri]

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?

VENGEANCE FOR STEVE!

Aw, who am I kidding. Big goofy bastard would have been upset by this.

and now I'm sad.

 

[Denamic]

Back in my day, we only had save-game editors.
Now there's DNA editors?
Man, times change.

 

[madster11]

So basically, within the next 10 years i'll be able to buy a cow with all it's spot patterns being in the shape of dicks?

I'm totally ok with this, science.

 

[EclipseoftheDarkSun]

From what I understand, this is talking about genetically engineering a stingray to look a specific way so that you can kill it and then make shoes out of it. Not using stingray skins left over from stingrays killed for their meat. This is discussing making a custom order genetically engineered stingray grown for the sole purpose of turning it into an article of clothing. When I buy a leather jacket, I don't tell them to create a cow to x specification, raise it and then kill it and make it into a jacket. My problem with this is the idea of creating something just so you can kill it later. Seems kinda horrible.

Umm, most farmed animals are raised specifically for the purpose of killing them to eat them down the line. And the worst part is when they're done en-masse, using the methods developed in mass production, in an animal equivalent of the nazi death camps. Plenty of inhumane treatment hidden/ignored by many consumers..

Sounds like the free-range movement is taking off in the US now, which is good because in some major ways, fast food has been a disaster.

 

[Vuljatar]

Holy shit that's cool.

Not something I'd spend that much money on, but man that is cool.

 

[Scarim Coral]

This kind of putting me off abit. I don't like the idea of some Stingray get some pattern I wanted on it, killed and parts or most of it will become footwear for my feet. No I ain't a peachy animal right activists but I don't personally want an animal to be killed to become my clothing.

Do you wear or use leather in any form? Or any other clothing made from animal products?

Not quite the same. If I buy a leather jacket, that cow is dead. Not buying the jacket will not resurrect it. These shoes result in a unique species being bred, raised and killed because I want to make shoes out of its skin. On a related note, while the concept of custom leather is cool, the means seem...disturbing.

Very true, although it could be argued that the cow was bred, raised and killed because someone wanted to make a jacket out of it's skin and you bought it.

However, I was looking more for clarity out of Scarim Coral. Saying "I don't personally want an animal to be killed to become my clothing" implies more then saying "I don't personally want an animal to be customized, raised and kill just be my footwear".

Well the only leather I own is a belt. Yes hypocrite per say but I guess I don't feel anything for my leather belt is that belt was for anyone to wear while a Stingray was killed and made for a specific person who wanted the footwear.
I admit I did had a hard time trying to worded out the last part of my sentence.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

Oh wow. Just wait until PETA hears about this.

Also, who would actually spend $1800 on something that ugly.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?

With these his sole could rest in piece.

His poor children are old enough that they could potentially read your hurtful, insensitive jokes at their father's tragic death.

You should feel ashamed of yourselves, and immediately openly apologise and in doing so you might take the sting out of it.

 

[The Funslinger]

Wierd, but then again I have a pair of my dad's old baby seal and alligator boots from long ago. I'm afraid to tell any of my friends about it though, out of fear they might be closet PETA members.

You're not choosing to waste boots that were made years ago, and outside of your control! Quick, euthanize his dog! It's the only way to save it!

 

[The Funslinger]

Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?

With these his sole could rest in piece.

His poor children are old enough that they could potentially read your hurtful, insensitive jokes at their father's tragic death.

You should feel ashamed of yourselves, and immediately openly apologise and in doing so you might take the sting out of it.

What's the manta with the two of you? Get out of this thread. Shoe, the pair of you!

 

[Agow95]

This is one of the main reasons I love genetic engineering, we can now design the patterns that grows on an animals skin/scales/whatever squids have

And then murder them for said skins and make shoes out of them.



OT: Im not one to side with animal rights, I myself find it amusing when people like PETA make claims, and then I imagine them arming bears and deer with rifles to even the odds against hunters.

But now we are getting into dangerous territory, sure, its $18,000 for a pair of shoes, you would be better off just buying a car, but when you start messing with genetics on a comercial level, where do we end?

In the future, will we be able to buy pets and have our own designs on them?

Will we finally be able to get a green cat?

Im one to love what the future can bring, but we shouldn't be editing genetics for a new design for shoes of all things.

We already breed pigs, cows, and sheep to be fat so we can "murder" and eat them, we've been doing so for hundreds of years, this is the same thing (albeit with shoes) but we skip generations of selective breeding with genetics, I agree that maybe this shouldn't be the focus of genetic research but unless it is somehow harmful, which it shouldn't be as I doubt these stingrays are being released into natural habitats, I don't see why we shouldn't allow people to fund research into designing the skin of various animals through genetic modification.

 

[Hattingston]

From what I understand, this is talking about genetically engineering a stingray to look a specific way so that you can kill it and then make shoes out of it. Not using stingray skins left over from stingrays killed for their meat. This is discussing making a custom order genetically engineered stingray grown for the sole purpose of turning it into an article of clothing. When I buy a leather jacket, I don't tell them to create a cow to x specification, raise it and then kill it and make it into a jacket. My problem with this is the idea of creating something just so you can kill it later. Seems kinda horrible.

Umm, most farmed animals are raised specifically for the purpose of killing them to eat them down the line. And the worst part is when they're done en-masse, using the methods developed in mass production, in an animal equivalent of the nazi death camps. Plenty of inhumane treatment hidden/ignored by many consumers..

Sounds like the free-range movement is taking off in the US now, which is good because in some major ways, fast food has been a disaster.

Still, not quite the same. When I buy a burger, that cow is dead regardless of whether or I ordered the burger. In this case, you request that scientists genetically engineer a new species of stingray, kill it, making said species extinct, just because you want shoes. Now personally, I don't order lobster if it's live; I don't like the idea of killing something for personal pleasures. If it's already dead, then it's already dead, fine, I'll have the lobster. I realize that this is a pretty fine distinction (especially since I'm supporting the animal's death via funding), but that's where I find the moral line lies. Now this goes a step further and says hey, let's not only kill this animal because you asked for it, but let's make its entire life dedicated to adorning your feet. That seems pretty messed up.