From what I understand, this is talking about genetically engineering a stingray to look a specific way so that you can kill it and then make shoes out of it. Not using stingray skins left over from stingrays killed for their meat. This is discussing making a custom order genetically engineered stingray grown for the sole purpose of turning it into an article of clothing. When I buy a leather jacket, I don't tell them to create a cow to x specification, raise it and then kill it and make it into a jacket. My problem with this is the idea of creating something just so you can kill it later. Seems kinda horrible.VanQQisH said:It is, actually. Sting Rays ARE edible and are served all around the world. Most likely, they just threw the skin away previously and have now just come up with a way to use that as well. Not any different from a cow when you think about it.Hattingston said:Not quite the same. If I buy a leather jacket, that cow is dead. Not buying the jacket will not resurrect it. These shoes result in a unique species being bred, raised and killed because I want to make shoes out of its skin. On a related note, while the concept of custom leather is cool, the means seem...disturbing.One of Many said:Do you wear or use leather in any form? Or any other clothing made from animal products?Scarim Coral said:This kind of putting me off abit. I don't like the idea of some Stingray get some pattern I wanted on it, killed and parts or most of it will become footwear for my feet. No I ain't a peachy animal right activists but I don't personally want an animal to be killed to become my clothing.
If they still need a brand name they could call them "Air Irwin's"Buretsu said:Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?
Ba dum tish.DVS BSTrD said:With these his sole could rest in piece.Buretsu said:Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?
30 bucks. Tomorrow by sundown.Solo-Wing said:Wow talk about PETA bait. Anybody taking bets on how fast they will get on this?
Someone actually did such a thing. But 4 out of ten patients developed leukemia.Mariakko said:"Wow, You can change the colour of a stingray through genetics? That's impressive, you must be pretty good at what you do. Could you perhaps do something more useful to humanity though?"
If this is real, when animal rights activists find this there will be an absolute shit storm.
VENGEANCE FOR STEVE!Buretsu said:Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?
Umm, most farmed animals are raised specifically for the purpose of killing them to eat them down the line. And the worst part is when they're done en-masse, using the methods developed in mass production, in an animal equivalent of the nazi death camps. Plenty of inhumane treatment hidden/ignored by many consumers..Hattingston said:From what I understand, this is talking about genetically engineering a stingray to look a specific way so that you can kill it and then make shoes out of it. Not using stingray skins left over from stingrays killed for their meat. This is discussing making a custom order genetically engineered stingray grown for the sole purpose of turning it into an article of clothing. When I buy a leather jacket, I don't tell them to create a cow to x specification, raise it and then kill it and make it into a jacket. My problem with this is the idea of creating something just so you can kill it later. Seems kinda horrible.
Well the only leather I own is a belt. Yes hypocrite per say but I guess I don't feel anything for my leather belt is that belt was for anyone to wear while a Stingray was killed and made for a specific person who wanted the footwear.One of Many said:Very true, although it could be argued that the cow was bred, raised and killed because someone wanted to make a jacket out of it's skin and you bought it.Hattingston said:Not quite the same. If I buy a leather jacket, that cow is dead. Not buying the jacket will not resurrect it. These shoes result in a unique species being bred, raised and killed because I want to make shoes out of its skin. On a related note, while the concept of custom leather is cool, the means seem...disturbing.One of Many said:Do you wear or use leather in any form? Or any other clothing made from animal products?Scarim Coral said:This kind of putting me off abit. I don't like the idea of some Stingray get some pattern I wanted on it, killed and parts or most of it will become footwear for my feet. No I ain't a peachy animal right activists but I don't personally want an animal to be killed to become my clothing.
However, I was looking more for clarity out of Scarim Coral. Saying "I don't personally want an animal to be killed to become my clothing" implies more then saying "I don't personally want an animal to be customized, raised and kill just be my footwear".
His poor children are old enough that they could potentially read your hurtful, insensitive jokes at their father's tragic death.DVS BSTrD said:With these his sole could rest in piece.Buretsu said:Is it wrong that I'm thinking of a cruel joke wherein someone sends a pair of these to the estate of Steve Irwin?