Ghostbusters Director Calls Out "Assholes in Geek Culture"

[Bobular]

"I live or die on what things are funny and whether or not people will be entertained by them."

They're not funny and people wont be entertained by them.

He claims that the all-female cast is a mere co-incidence: the funniest people he knows just happen to be women, which is why he has cast them in the movie.

That is one massive co-incidence if that is true. Which I highly doubt. Also you need to find funnier friends.

"(Melissa McCarthy) is just this hilarious woman who is so funny," he said. "I don't care WHAT she looks like. As long as she's funny and is a professional. She's hilarious."

No she's not

Recently, pundits started a campaign to downvote the new movie's trailer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ugHP-yZXw] into oblivion. At time of writing, its sitting at 200,000 "likes" and over 700,000 "dislikes.

If it was just sexist/racist bigots then it wouldn't have so many dislikes. The bigots complained about a black storm trooper and a female lead for Star Wars. The Star Wars trailer is at 663,627 likes and 19,415 dislikes, and this is STAR WARS we're talking about, more people will get irate over Star Wars then Ghostbusters.

 

[nickpy]

To be honest, I'd completely forgotten that this new Ghostbusters was a thing. Watched the trailer, was unimpressed. It's a shame, because I was actually quite intriqued to see what new stuff or interesting changes the all-female angle could bring to the table, but there doesn't seem to be anything of substance in that trailer.

OT: Yes, some members of any internet-based community are very... how shall I put this? "protective" of "their" stuff, but dismissing all criticism of your film by labelling the critics as "sexist assholes" is not going to help.

 

[lionsprey]

i might believe the whole "the genderbent cast is a coincidence" thing if it wasn't literary the first thing i heard about the movie.
and since then i suspected the movie would suck and the trailer seems to confirm my suspicions.
And really did he think people would be happy with a soulless remake of a old classic?

 

[FirstNameLastName]

Yeah, I'm going prod the hornets' nest with this post. He's not entirely wrong here, nor is he entirely right either. The situation with the Ghostbusters reboot is more complicated than most people are willing to admit. On one hand, you have plenty of people who desperately want to dismiss all criticism as "misogyny". Then again, if you seriously think all or even most of the criticism is free from gender politics you're in denial. Yes, the film (judging by the trailer and everything else we've seen) looks like a dumpster fire of cringe. Yes, you are free to hate it for the terrible, gimmicky, nostalgia exploiting cash grab that it is. Does that mean the cringe-worthy hatedom that has sprouted around this movie is entirely dependent on the movie's quality rather than largely being yet anther front of the SJWs vs ¬SJWs cultural war? Ahahahahahaha ... no!

Right from the beginning it's been mired in politics; if you've paid even the faintest of attention to this movie or even read any of the comments directed towards it you'd have to be blind to have missed the references to SJWs, liberals, tumblr, feminists (or feminazis as they are more likely to be labled), cultural marxism, cucks, political correctness, etc.

Most reasonable people would simply dislike the trailer, maybe discuss it with others, not watch the film, then get on with their life, but an entire culture has sprung up around this movie dedicated to waging a petty vendetta against it. There are people celebrating the fact that they've created multiple accounts just to dislike the trailer again.

Am I really supposed to just close my eyes, stick my fingers in my ears, and pretend it's just a big ol' coincidence that this one shit film in an ocean of shit films is the most disliked trailer on youtube in addition to being a political battleground filled with people ranting about feminists?

Edit: Just in case I haven't prodded this hornets' nest hard enough, I genuinely hope this movie is a massive success and smashes all box office records. Will that set a terrible precedent that sets us up for more shitty reboots like it? Sure, but at this point the hatedom surrounding the film has become so obnoxious that the petulant rage and tears would be worth it.
Hey, I never said I'm not petty in my own way.

 

[Karadalis]

Never reflect on yourselfe, never think about what you have done, never admit any blame.

Just keep pointing at the giant strawman you have build and completly ignore the massive amount of warranted and honest critisism.

Thats the wanna be feminist way.

Well, he's sick of it, and he has called out all of the "assholes in geek culture" for attacking his movie.

Incorrect. He's sick of people attacking him. As he says in the linked article:

Especially after being attacked by them for months because of this 'Ghostbusters' project.

Has he? Has he really? Has he really been attacked more then is usual for any other public figure during this time? And here i was thinking trump and hillary received more bile and attacks on a daily basis then this clown since the release of that terrybad trailer... what a horribly sheltered live this guy must lead if he takes internet comments to heart like this. Hes a little whiny *****... allways has been allways will be.

All i see is a whiny little director who cannot accept the fact that the movie he produced for feminists is rejected by the majority of the public AND the overwhelming majority of people who even still gave a fuck about ghost busters... wich he shat on with this abomination of juvenile and badly timed "humor"

Doesnt matter how "funny" his actors usually are if the script is shit. Not to mention that aparantly that behind the scenes things where anything BUT feminist like. One of the actors was even told to "shut up" when she raised concerns about how the trailer could possibly confuse their audience. Or how about the horrible working conditions on set and the actors having catfights with each other? Or the backroom politics that stabbed the original director who wanted to direct a proper sequel in the back in favor of this feminist agenda driven piece of crap?

Yeahhhh... way to be a good upstanding feminist... if a woman tells you somethings wrong just tell her to shut up and go back to the kitchen. 3rd wave feminists ladies and gentlewoman... fighting the good fight amiright? Its only mysoginy if the others do it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPAklIlov-A


There are 2 more videos wich paint quite the horrible picture of sonies meddling in the movie and how catastrophic the actual shooting of the movie turned out.

 

[Parasondox]

Directors are getting really defensive these days. Love it!! Unleash your anger at those fans and nostalgia blah blah.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Am I really supposed to just close my eyes, stick my fingers in my ears, and pretend it's just a big ol' coincidence that this one shit film in an ocean of shit films is the most disliked trailer on youtube in addition to being a political battleground filled with people ranting about feminists?

At this point it's a self-sustaining, fiery shitstorm due to all the sensitive topics fueling eachother; It's a remake of one of the most beloved and unique 80's movies, it is yet again a blatant nostalgia cash grab, it looks like compltete trash, and it stars all women, one of whom is very divisive (McCarthy).

The feminism hate has always been there, just as it was with Fury Road, but seeing as the movie looks-... the way it does, it works as an amplifier. A lot of these people likely feel justified in crying out even louder due to the film being unanimously hated.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Well done Fieg, you've officially shit the bed.

Instead of say, dealing with negative backlash and perhaps composing a better trailer, you're doing a Tommy Wiseau and just convicing yourself that it's everyone else's fault but yours that your movie looks like shit.

Bonus points for insulting the target audience, you've just alienated a huge demographic with your mouth breathing.

 

[Saelune]

Yeah, just like those of us who wanted an accurate Human Torch are racists, right? Go fuck yourself shitty directors who take something people care about and twist it for your egotistical "look how progressive and trendy I am" needs.

Maybe take a page from the Dragonball guy who eventually realized they dun fucked up.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

"Geek culture is home to some of the biggest assholes I've ever met in my life," Feig told the New York Daily News [http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/ghostbusters-director-paul-feig-responds-attacks-article-1.2621647].

Well, go fuck yourself with a cheese grater then, Feig. Why even make a movie aimed at geeks if you hate them so much?

"I don't care what shape or size or color or anything they are," Feig said, responding to criticism that SNL star Leslie Jones' character merely plays into Hollywood's mad black woman clicha. "I live or die on what things are funny and whether or not people will be entertained by them."

(...)

"(Melissa McCarthy) is just this hilarious woman who is so funny," he said. "I don't care WHAT she looks like. As long as she's funny and is a professional. She's hilarious."

Well, sorry man, I've seen your trailer; it looks like shit. From that, and the list of horrible movies you've made before, it's quite clear you have no fucking clue what comedy is.

Recently, pundits started a campaign to downvote the new movie's trailer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ugHP-yZXw] into oblivion. At time of writing, its sitting at 200,000 "likes" and over 700,000 "dislikes.

Seriously, Escapist? You're just going to print bullshit like this?

 

[KoudelkaMorgan]

You know how directors that don't want their name on a bad film use an alias? Can the people actually acting in it get that going too? Can they demand that their face is blurred and their voice modified and that their name doesn't appear in the credits?

They will probably wish they could on this one.

 

[Dragonlayer]

Between this and the Star Wars author who cried homophobia over his poorly received novel, I've learnt something I shall apply in my future creative endeavours. Next time I write something, I'm going to include at least one woman or homosexual person. Doesn't matter if it's relevant to the plot or not, doesn't matter if it fits contextually, doesn't matter if it's appropriate for the setting: I shall put one in regardless. Then, the *instant* someone says they don't like whatever I've produced, I can just call them a filthy sexist bigot, watch the internet implode and then rake in the controversy bucks!

 

[Barbas]

Geek culture is being surrounded by assholes "calling out" other assholes, then you eventually put a gun to your own head or someone else's.

 

[Nergui]

We didn't like Call of Doody: Halo Warfa, sorry, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare either (610k dislikes so far) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY

 

[Bedinsis]

Has he? Has he really? Has he really been attacked more then is usual for any other public figure during this time? And here i was thinking trump and hillary received more bile and attacks on a daily basis then this clown since the release of that terrybad trailer...

I do not know, since I am not privy to Mr Feig's e-mail account. My contention was that I think the author of this news article wrote it with the perspective of "Some people have called people upset about this film 'misogynists' and the like, despite there being plenty of good reasons to dislike the film outside of the main characters being gender flipped". This is an understandable perspective that I can get behind. However, I believe that in holding that perspective the author of this news post read the sourced article incorrectly and thus gave an incorrect reporting. As I said, Mr. Feig didn't say anything about people attacking the MOVIE making them a-holes, he was upset about people attacking HIM. From the article it sourced I deem it possible that his perspective is "It is disappointing that people find the movie underwhelming since I've made these choices for [various reasons]; attacking me personally however makes you an a-hole." This reposting of it I believe assumes a fixed narrative and in doing so directly contradicts the direct quotes of the original article.

 

[Metalrocks]

he must think like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEQhbyDdko8

 

[NoeL]

He's absolutely right, and you don't have to look further than this very thread to see it.

Feig: God, these geeks that have been all over me since before the casting for making a female Ghostbusters movie are real assholes.
Responders: Well you shouldn't have made a shit trailer!

Oh come off it. AS IF he's referring solely to the trailer's reaction. He's been getting shit from geeks for "ruining" Ghostbusters from the very beginning, and he's absolutely right that those geeks are assholes.

 

[Winnosh]

People need to learn to stop making personl attacks just because they don't like a movie. Hate the movie not the people involved. And yeah I'm not interested at all in the movie but I at least waited until the trailer before I made a decision. He and others were getting bashed when the thing was just announced.

 

[Karadalis]

Has he? Has he really? Has he really been attacked more then is usual for any other public figure during this time? And here i was thinking trump and hillary received more bile and attacks on a daily basis then this clown since the release of that terrybad trailer...

I do not know, since I am not privy to Mr Feig's e-mail account. My contention was that I think the author of this news article wrote it with the perspective of "Some people have called people upset about this film 'misogynists' and the like, despite there being plenty of good reasons to dislike the film outside of the main characters being gender flipped". This is an understandable perspective that I can get behind. However, I believe that in holding that perspective the author of this news post read the sourced article incorrectly and thus gave an incorrect reporting. As I said, Mr. Feig didn't say anything about people attacking the MOVIE making them a-holes, he was upset about people attacking HIM. From the article it sourced I deem it possible that his perspective is "It is disappointing that people find the movie underwhelming since I've made these choices for [various reasons]; attacking me personally however makes you an a-hole." This reposting of it I believe assumes a fixed narrative and in doing so directly contradicts the direct quotes of the original article.

He actually brought the 700k dislikes into play thought and claimed that there is some sort of conspiracy at work here to downvote the trailer... so he did actually bring the people who really dislike his shitty movie in with the people who personaly attacked him. Despite as you said there are plenty of reasons to dislike that turd of a trailer besides "my soggy knees"

That and his other comments on the like/dislike ratio lead to one conclusion:

That hestill tries to pain everyone who dislikes the trailer as an "a-hole"

By concentrating solely on the handfull (in comparison to the rest) of people who insulted him personaly (for him insulting something that they held dear with his agenda driven, unfunny take on the ghostbusters) he made it intentionally look like EVERYONE who dislikes the new trailer belongs in said category. Thus painting the oposition in as a negative light as possible. Its not simply people disliking what he did to the ghostbuster legacy or that he produced a "scary movie" flick with it... its simply people hating on his all female main cast.

On the other hand its kinda his job to do this, i mean even the actors do not want to promote this movie anymore then is absolutely necesary and required by contract. Heck and even then they dont sound confident and rather opt to not talk about it at all.

I mean that alone is telling when your main actors either dont want to talk about this AAA movie they starred in or tell the public that they where told to "shut up" when they raised concerns about the trailer possibly confusing people.

I mean doesnt that show how hypocritical sony and feig are? Writing feminism on their banner but when actual women that worked on this movie, the main cast no less, point out flaws to tell them to stuff it? Yeah.. a great victory for equality was NOT achieved that day.

"Geek culture is home to some of the biggest assholes I've ever met in my life," Feig told the New York Daily News [http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/ghostbusters-director-paul-feig-responds-attacks-article-1.2621647].

Well yeah this part's kinda true.

Ahem: To quote good ol dracula from symphony of the night:

"Perhaps that could be said about ALL religions"

EVERY "fandom" has its assholes. And i dare say that the Geek community has the most harmless assholes around. You dont see geeks rioting in the streets, beating the shit out of police officers and other communities like for example certain "sports fans" do/used to do when their choosen soccer club lost a game (or won a game.. hooligans arent picky).

Compare that to a mean twitter comments about "your mom" and i know wich are worse.

 

[Dragonlayer]

We didn't like Call of Doody: Halo Warfa, sorry, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare either (610k dislikes so far) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY

Obviously each and every single person disliking that mistook the bald space Nazi for a woman, and they just couldn't contain their misogynistic venom any longer.