Girl throws puppies in river.

[ShadowsofHope]

Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.

Bullshit. I could look through my local papers and find something about someone being stabbed or whatever. I could google 'recent murders' and get loads of detailed hits.

We care about this story because they're puppies... That's it.

They are cute and fluffy so therfore are worthy of our pitty. And she of our disgust.

Humans... are... retarded.

Ah, yes. Because showing sympathy for anything other than human beings is utterly uncalled for and revolting, yes? She was throwing baby puppies into a goddamned river, and casually at that. That is abhorrent, and so is she for doing it. Get over yourself.

And no, not everyone wants to read up on the latest murder either. We kind of like some kind of pleasantness in our daily lives, you know. Human suffering has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Domestic animals? Not nearly as long.

By your own definition that isn't simply sympathy. That priority. If we are willing to seek out stories about cruelty to to cute animals. But are unwilling to do the same for humans... Then that is prioritising their well being over ours. Or at-least highlighting out bias.

Since when did anyone seek this story out? No less than the previous article today on the Xbox Live Sex Offender was "sought out". If I see an article on either humans or animals being tortured/murdered/etc., you are damned well right I'm going to express my disdain at both. I am a Humanist, but I also care about the suffering of infant animals or animals in general to a needless and inhumane extent. Doesn't make me care about animals more than humans.

And no, I did not mean in that manner with "Animal suffering? Not nearly as long." I in-fact meant it exactly as you said, animal suffering in cultures spanning history is not as widely known as human suffering is.

 

[Littlee300]

It's an overreaction to threaten her with violence.

It's not our place to threaten people with violence because we're pissed off at what she did. That's why we don't lynch criminals any-more. There is such a thing as the legal system. And the most we could do is find and report her..

It is kinda funny and sad that 4chan would probably find the girl quicker then the authority.

 

[Tdc2182]

i literally couldn't watch 2 seconds of this

Yep, on the second dog I stopped watching.

 

[Tdc2182]

It's not just the escapist. When is the last time you saw a story about someone being killed, and it genuinely shocked you? Or when is the last time you actually thought about how much people suffer in third world countries. Or war torn countries. I don't get becoming desensitised to human suffering but still crying about a bunch of puppies drowning.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no bleeding heart. The world is a fucked up place. I just accept this and get on with my daily life. But this should apply to everything. Not just humans. Just because it's cute and whelps as it's being thrown. It shouldn't really spark any more sympathy in use than that advert of whatever his name is dying of diarrhoea in Africa.

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

The reason why we all care right now is because there is video. Not much hypocrisy here. Show me a video of African children being killed you would probably get the same, if not worse, reaction.

 

[Littlee300]

I maust say that I can see you point, but I can't really agree with you. Because I know that lots of money is being spent on saving the ugly animals. And that yes humans can be retarded, but we can do amzing things if we want too.

And if you don't think that drowning puppies are disgusting, well.....lets just leave it at that.

There isn't though. There is actually this whole issue about it at the moment. People are all too quick to give money to cute animals like seals and pandas. But relatively no one gives a fuck about cave spiders and the like. It's actually a pretty big issues some conservationists are facing at the minute.

And I didn't say someone killing puppies for no reason wasn't disgusting. In-fact I said the exact opposite. I do wish people would stop misinterpreting my posts.

But I will say this. it's no more disgusting or deranged than randomly squashing a load of spiders or killing any other animal for that matter. We attach something more to it because they appeal to our protective instincts. Being cute and helpless.

Like I say. We are fundamentally retarded and bias.

Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.

Bullshit. I could look through my local papers and find something about someone being stabbed or whatever. I could google 'recent murders' and get loads of detailed hits.

We care about this story because they're puppies... That's it.

They are cute and fluffy so therfore are worthy of our pitty. And she of our disgust.

Humans... are... retarded.

Human's murdering humans has become commonplace it isn't considered shocking. When it comes to puppies not only is almost unheard of, its the fact that puppies have done nothing to wrong you and cannot defend themselves. It expresses a problem with you so deep and disturber that nothing anybody can ever do will fix it.

I didn't say I don't understand why. I'm just pointing out how fundamentally stupid it is.

You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.

Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.

You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'

Perhaps you've been beaten down enough, I'm too lazy to read through the rest of the responses.

But really, if you're a cruel enough person to casually dispose of puppies in the river while at least seeming to enjoy yourself, do we really want you on this earth? It's not like we're choosing between saving a puppy or a woman; here's a deranged person who just killed a bunch of puppies. You don't think that she should be punished for doing so?
Animals may not have the same value as a human life pound for pound, but they should be subject to the same morals that us humans face.

If you're too lazy to read. Don't respond.

There is a high chance of her becoming a serial killer when she grows up unless she gets some good fucking mental help.

I had to say that since you are going "OMG, STUPID HUMANS, WORST STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL TIME"

 

[Thamous]

Never said I didn't care. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of whining about this whilst simultaneously turning a blind eye to worse things.

That's what I don't get, where on Escapist do you see people turning a blind eye to worse things?

It's not just the escapist. When is the last time you saw a story about someone being killed, and it genuinely shocked you? Or when is the last time you actually thought about how much people suffer in third world countries. Or war torn countries. I don't get becoming desensitised to human suffering but still crying about a bunch of puppies drowning.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no bleeding heart. The world is a fucked up place. I just accept this and get on with my daily life. But this should apply to everything. Not just humans. Just because it's cute and whelps as it's being thrown. It shouldn't really spark any more sympathy in use than that advert of whatever his name is dying of diarrhoea in Africa.

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

It's not hypocrisy. Nobody is saying murder or starving refugees are good things, they are simply so commonplace that they don't elicit the same shock. When somebody see's a puppy getting thrown in a river its shocking because you never see it happen.

 

[Scarecrow]

It's not just the escapist. When is the last time you saw a story about someone being killed, and it genuinely shocked you? Or when is the last time you actually thought about how much people suffer in third world countries. Or war torn countries. I don't get becoming desensitised to human suffering but still crying about a bunch of puppies drowning.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no bleeding heart. The world is a fucked up place. I just accept this and get on with my daily life. But this should apply to everything. Not just humans. Just because it's cute and whelps as it's being thrown. It shouldn't really spark any more sympathy in use than that advert of whatever his name is dying of diarrhoea in Africa.

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

The reason why we all care right now is because there is video. Not much hypocrisy here. Show me a video of African children being killed you would probably get the same, if not worse, reaction.

What he said. It really isn't hypocrisy.

 

[Chesterfield Snapdragon McFisticuffs]

Jeez, if those were cats 4Chan would be wrecking her life about now.

Actually, that's been on 4chan all day, I think they're currently trying to track her down.

 

[N00b1514]

Never said I didn't care. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of whining about this whilst simultaneously turning a blind eye to worse things.

That's what I don't get, where on Escapist do you see people turning a blind eye to worse things?

It's not just the escapist. When is the last time you saw a story about someone being killed, and it genuinely shocked you? Or when is the last time you actually thought about how much people suffer in third world countries. Or war torn countries. I don't get becoming desensitised to human suffering but still crying about a bunch of puppies drowning.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no bleeding heart. The world is a fucked up place. I just accept this and get on with my daily life. But this should apply to everything. Not just humans. Just because it's cute and whelps as it's being thrown. It shouldn't really spark any more sympathy in use than that advert of whatever his name is dying of diarrhoea in Africa.

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

By nature all beings are hypocritical in some way or another, as such that observation is pointless.

 

[Icehearted]

I'm a bit surprised this found it's way here. Saw the video though, the little lady just pitches those pups like it's nothing. You want the real challenge though? Google Zoltan Toepler. The man does it for a film, and he's given awards for it. I've seen it, and it's pretty rough stuff since the little guy fights the whole time, and you get to see into it's eyes as it slips away.

Our species.

As tempting as that sounds, I'm going to pass on that one.

Who gives this guy awards, serial killers?

From an article:
"A Hungarian man, Zoltan Toepler, filmed a so called artistic video entitled "Álszent" (Hypocrite), the majority of which was footage of a kitten being held, struggling, underwater until it drowned after two minutes. He submitted his art film and won an award."

Spoiler: From what I recall... (don't worry, no images)

The drowning, which I had seen a couple of years ago, was an up-close shot of the kitten held firmly underwater. The thing was so young that it could barely struggle for it's life. You think a cat would scratch and flail, but this thing was pretty tiny, clearly weak, and completely helpless. I felt bad, and I'm more of a dog person than a cat person. It's about on par with Zippo (FFS DON'T!!!), but only because it's so agonizingly long, and you see the face of the animal as the light of life just fades from it's eyes.

 

[Tdc2182]

By the way, 4chan, if you are listening, I am currently turning a blind eye. Do whatever the fuck you want. You wont here any bitching from me.

 

[Arisato-kun]

This ***** is abhorrent of course. I'd annihilate her myself if given the opportunity. One deranged human is worth less than a plant, let alone a barrel of puppies.

Nothing I can do about it but luckily 4Chan has all her info down to her phone number. One poster even asked if she'd post her suicide tape on their website.

Oh 4Chan, the things you do.

 

[gkid87]

wow people want her dead because of some dead puppies how about getting over it its not the worst thing to ever happened.

 

[Thaius]

...

Someone hurt her. Seriously, that is not okay. Not okay at all.

 

[Sentox6]

Was anyone here raised in a rural environment? I was raised herding sheep, growing alfalfa and working on a neighbors dairy. To most people in rural areas animals are more of a tool then a pet (cats are kept on the farm to eat mice, dogs herd sheep and fight coyote). They are not family members in the least so killing one is the same as slaughtering one of your pigs or cows. One dog killed a chicken in my neighbors coop, he was shot upon discovery. A doberman pinscher that was on the farm for years pinned me down and bit me on the shoulder while I was playing on the haypile, my grandma shot him herself. My point is, this view is also held by people that live in cities and all kinds of places. Hell, in some areas your favorite pet would be sold by the pound with two veg!

If puppies are born and they are mixed breed (ie - won't be naturally good herding or working dogs) they are a burden, not a blessing. They keep your good ***** from working and they will only cost more money then they make you. Farm life is not easy, every penny really does count.

A common way to get rid of unwanted/useless puppies? Bag with rocks into the river. Remember, they are not people. Hell, if you think they are just assume the suffering is over and they won't have to starve later on or get beat the shit out of every day by uncaring owners.

I have a dog and two cats now (I live in the city at last) and I do care about them, but I would drown them all twice to save even one random human without thinking twice. Honestly, if you would prioritize an animal over a person you are at least as psychotic as the girl in the video.

I too spent most of my life in a rural environment, and I would humbly request that you don't tar me with the same brush. Honestly, I can't even begin to fathom how you could make the leap from treating livestock as a resource to throwing puppies into a river with a clear sense of glee. Comparing it to putting a dangerous, fully-grown dog down (with a gunshot, no less, which is fairly quick unless you're a bad shot) is just plain outrageous.

I would prioritize an animal over the kind of person who kills animals for no reason or stupid reasons. actually, that's too generous, I'd prioritize a plant over people who kill animals for no reason or stupid reasons.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[strum4h]

People are wishing for this person to die and be raped. How is that justice? stop being so childish.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I would like to snap both her legs and toss her into the river, see how she enjoys it since she would be about as helpless as those puppies. That being said, somehow I see this as a sick joke and those were not actual puppies. If not... I hope she is located and 4chan or something ruins her life.

 

[coldfrog]

Am I the only one who thinks this could possibly be fake? I mean, without seeing the original posting it'd be hard to say - it was clearly filmed, but by who and why? where did it come from? did anyone try doing any film analysis on it? With the exception of the last puppy, the hand goes out of screen every time - the fps are low, the video is full of artifacts, the camera is moving a lot (and the camera-person doesn't say a word, which to me is curious if he/she is filming this - it's a strange sort of apathy, but nevertheless)... Now, of course I'm not saying that someone would never be this sick, but I like to have faith in people before I condemn them (one of my faults it seems). I'd be curious to know if anyone has any info on this. Here's hoping to hear that it's a fake some day soon.

 

[lovemyredguitar]

Ok the fact is most people dont flip out to humans dying because most humans can defend themselves. Puppies cant. If a disabled person in a wheelchair was getting beat up everyone would flip out too.

 

[xmbts]

I feel like I'm gonna puke after that. No amount of threat making will make that horrible feeling go away or even boil down into anger. It's just completely nauseating.