I know it's purely down to artistic licence, but how could the Russians have invaded the States in Modern Warfare 2? Even allowing for temporarily shutting down their air defence network, invading a nation on that scale would take millions of troops. Where did they all come from? You're not telling me they paratrooped hundreds of thousands in within hours. It's a logistical impossibility.
Glaring plot holes in games
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Having read the book, some parts of Halo:Reach don't make sense. In Reach Cortana is delivered to the Autumn before they make their jump towards Halo, in the book the Pillar of Autumn is already in space when they Covenant attack it's just that they're called back to help defend.
Otacon tells Snake he can't use stealth while working, saying it's like trying to eat dinner or clean a gun while your hands are invisible (call him when you're at the timed locked door in the disposal warehouse). But then why not just plug the cable in THEN turn on the stealth? Apparently the mini-MG can't hack and stealth at the same time.-Samurai- said:
Also the Mk.II very visibly blows a few things from the microwaves.
Actually in the fluff stuff (might be in the shadow broker base, can't remember) it claims that the clips were developed based on geth tech to allow constant supressive fire... (don't worry I don't understand it either)theonlyblaze2 said:
Hence its possible shepard knew about the R&D before the normandy got assploded. after all, Presley did say the normandy had been romping about for months before the collector party.
Ok that second one actually makes sense. Still, couldn't he have put all the money it must've taken to build a 100 of the normal ones, into making an upgraded one with better range. Oh well, no point complaining since it's only a gameplay mechanic optimized for ease of use.Dr. McD said:
That's not a plot hole. That's a typo. Some of these fictional name's are hard to remember you know?DSK- said:
In God of War, you have to get into the Temple of Pandora to find the famous box. The Temple of Pandora is on a mountain... that's tied to the back of a Titan... who's wandering in an immense desert. Just getting there involves killing murderous sirens, climbing impossible heights and defeating terrifying minotaurs to open the gates. Even Kratos finds it a challenge.
And when you get inside the Temple, in one room where you're swinging along on a rope, there's people fighting the undead all around you... and the fighters are, literally, just random, ordinary legionnaires. The kind who die if Kratos so much as yells at them.
How the heck did they survive this far? And why didn't they leave the bloody door open, and all the traps solved between the door and the room they're in?
And when you get inside the Temple, in one room where you're swinging along on a rope, there's people fighting the undead all around you... and the fighters are, literally, just random, ordinary legionnaires. The kind who die if Kratos so much as yells at them.
How the heck did they survive this far? And why didn't they leave the bloody door open, and all the traps solved between the door and the room they're in?
ARE WE USING THE IMDB TROLL COMMUNITY'S DEFINITION OF 'PLOT HOLE'?
Please remember girls and boys that a 'plothole' is a failure or contradiction in the logic of the PLOT. The STORY is distinct from the plot. A plot for any game is probably no more than 5 lines of text. A story is pages and pages of text and script.
For example, Transformers episodes were full of them. One moment Mr. Autobot flies out of harms way, or uses a lasersword to hack at some enemy. In a later episode, that same Mr. Autobot is unable to solve a problem that flying or a laser sword would fix. THIS is a plot hole - a logic or informational contradiction in the story and world.
Plot holes are NOT ever decision by a character which you think was 'stupid', or an action in the film which you don't understand the reason for. Most of the time these are related to the STORY - what the characters do and say, what kind of people they are, etc. A character might act OUT OF CHARACTER, but that could be intentional. We have all had others tell us that something we did was 'so unlike us'.
The test is this: if you can imagine a reasonable solution to the information gap, without breaking the rules of the story or world, then you've NOT found a plot hole.
Please remember girls and boys that a 'plothole' is a failure or contradiction in the logic of the PLOT. The STORY is distinct from the plot. A plot for any game is probably no more than 5 lines of text. A story is pages and pages of text and script.
For example, Transformers episodes were full of them. One moment Mr. Autobot flies out of harms way, or uses a lasersword to hack at some enemy. In a later episode, that same Mr. Autobot is unable to solve a problem that flying or a laser sword would fix. THIS is a plot hole - a logic or informational contradiction in the story and world.
Plot holes are NOT ever decision by a character which you think was 'stupid', or an action in the film which you don't understand the reason for. Most of the time these are related to the STORY - what the characters do and say, what kind of people they are, etc. A character might act OUT OF CHARACTER, but that could be intentional. We have all had others tell us that something we did was 'so unlike us'.
The test is this: if you can imagine a reasonable solution to the information gap, without breaking the rules of the story or world, then you've NOT found a plot hole.
Which is another thing that always bothered me. Can't hack and use stealth at the same time? What the hell was he thinking when he designed that thing?Cid SilverWing said:
Anyway, I think it blows some parts because it's going slowly with Snake. It's a fast little robot that probably could have zipped through there no problem.
Still an awesome scene, though.
It could be a plot hole but Kratos already showed that it wasn't impossible to reach the top of the mountain. That 'regular Joes' were also up there would only be a plot hole if such a possibility had been denied earlier. Those soldiers could have their own epic story. Perhaps they were airlifted in by another god, or used magic. Obviously if there is a temple to Pandora there, there must be accolytes, priests and priestesses. Perhaps those fighters were stationed at the top of the mountain.Kwatsu said:
You see, 'plot hole' has become of the most misused words by Net geekdom. It doesn't mean a plot or story point, or character action that doesn't 'make sense' (though it may make a lot of sense to somebody else, for example, the creators). It is an explicit failure in the application of the story and world's logic. It doesn't mean an information gap present because of how the narrative is constructed (for example, non-omnipotent narratives only explain what the view point characters can directly experience and discover themselves).
Back when I was a kid, I realised that Optimus Prime never used his giant laser axe again after the first episode of Transformers. That could be a plot hole, if we disregard the possibility that the axe was broken in that fight. Galvatron saying that 'autobots can't fly', after several prior episodes prior showing them able to so, is also a probable plot hole. However, Galvatron could have been lying or mistaken, or just referring to the abilities of Autobots he was with.
Many accused plot holes can be filled, and often they are. But so many people today, especially on forums like IMDB, consider them impossible to fill, simply because they noticed it. If those legionaires up at the temple of Pandora were actually from down below, and climbled their as the hero did, then it would be a good candidate for a plot hole. Yet, as shown, it is one easily filled with imagination.
This is not a 'go' at you btw. I'm just discussing with you.
It was not a "blind" jump per say. Cortana had stumbled across the coordinates from the Covenant somehow, it was explained in the books but I forgot exactly where. But anyways Cortana was curious as to what was there, and it was in a sufficiently "random" direction away from Earth that it did not really matter.Platinum117 said:
Not sure if it's a plot hole, but certainly a puzzling situtation, but World of Warcraft has a rather annoying habit of creating raid bosses that we have little explaination to fight. Why are we going into the Obsidian Sanctum? Most players will just assume "Nasty Black Dragon that's gotta die" but this would be wrong.
It's all explained in outside material I can't get my hands on. Not even a quick brief in the game >.>
It's all explained in outside material I can't get my hands on. Not even a quick brief in the game >.>
The Americans did know about the Nuke, they just didnt find it in time.jakefongloo said:
The biggest plot hole in COD 4 is,
"How the feck did the SAS get on the plane in Mile High Club? And why wait after it took off to storm the bastard?"
Well then they'd form some sort of government and elect some of the more prominent rebels, presumably. Not really a plot-hole.subject_87 said:
I'm sure Miranda explains it as soon as you pick up a gun.Fr said:
OT: A lot of the posts on this thread don't seem to be actual plot holes.
Besides which, why does your rival usually say something along the lines of 'I lost because I didn't treat my Pokémon right? But you won because you love your Pokémon' etc... and yet I've never fed mine, left most of them trapped inside a tiny computer for literally years now, and forced them to fight for my entertainment. Yeah, I won 'cos I love those little scamps.7amurai said:
So, the general of the US army wanted to start a war with Russia by getting one of the TF 141 members blamed for the shooting? Resulting in America being invaded?soren7550 said:
"ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN," Shepherd chuckles to himself, as thousands of Americans are killed and the white house falls to Russians.
So what exactly was his role in the shooting, then?