Glasses-Free 3D On Its Way to Japanese Arcades

[milkkart]

ugh i don't know why they don't just put more effort into 3D displays with passive glasses.
that way the glasses go from a couple hundred dollars a pair to a few dollars. they dont weigh anything more than a pair of ordinary sunglasses, dont need batteries and you can carry them around with you without worrying about breaking them.
if i was being paranoid id say its because the technology for the screens would be very little more or the same price as active glasses displays whereas you can charge way more for a pair of fancy electronic glasses than you can for whats basically a pair of polarising sunglasses.

 

[CrystalShadow]

ugh i don't know why they don't just put more effort into 3D displays with passive glasses.
that way the glasses go from a couple hundred dollars a pair to a few dollars. they dont weigh anything more than a pair of ordinary sunglasses, dont need batteries and you can carry them around with you without worrying about breaking them.
if i was being paranoid id say its because the technology for the screens would be very little more or the same price as active glasses displays whereas you can charge way more for a pair of fancy electronic glasses than you can for whats basically a pair of polarising sunglasses.

What, you mean like the cheap, disposable glasses a lot of cinemas are using now?

I do wonder why that isn't possible in the home...

Actually though, it is; A digital projection setup can pretty much match what the cinemas are doing... It's not even that difficult.

It's just... Digital projection systems are somehow less popular than large screen TV's, even though for a given screen size, it's probably cheaper.

Oh well.

 

[Evilsanta]

This would be awesome!

It could eventually lead to the rebirth of Arcades IMO!
Plus i know a few types of games that would be awesome with 3D.

Anyone like to play Rail Slashers?

Tetris, the blocks will look like they are falling on your hands :')

That would be awesome...

Oh Oh!
A mecha game where the Cockpit is completely in 3D and you actually haft to interact with the controls!

Interactive controls? Damn that sounds so epic. Wait a minute...They will combat simulators for there mech pilots! They will be already fully trained when they launch there attack, we are screwd!

 

[devilsbane_smash]

Makes enough sense for arcades and handhelds, but I don't see 3D becoming mainstream for home consoles any time soon. Mostly because the TV doesn't come with the console, and the positioning issue. Although by the time 3D TV's are cheap the fad will probably have blown over anyway...

 

[milkkart]

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What, you mean like the cheap, disposable glasses a lot of cinemas are using now?

I do wonder why that isn't possible in the home...

Actually though, it is; A digital projection setup can pretty much match what the cinemas are doing... It's not even that difficult.

It's just... Digital projection systems are somehow less popular than large screen TV's, even though for a given screen size, it's probably cheaper.

Oh well.

i think you need a specifically produced 3d projector dont you?
but yeah if you have the space for a screen, or a suitable blank wall a nice HD projector would an alternative to a TV. would mean watching tv with the light off all the time though, unless there are ones bright enough to be used with the light on?
sony produced a 3d projector already. still uses active shutter glasses rather than passive polariser glasses though, made me facepalm pretty hard when i read about it.
surely a single polarising LCD shutter on the projecter is cheaper than two blanking LCD shutters per viewer. hell the tech had already been produced for cinemas, in fact the principle was already in use for your basic 7-seg LCD calculator or watch display. it was just a case of fitting it to home projectors.

 

[CrystalShadow]

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What, you mean like the cheap, disposable glasses a lot of cinemas are using now?

I do wonder why that isn't possible in the home...

Actually though, it is; A digital projection setup can pretty much match what the cinemas are doing... It's not even that difficult.

It's just... Digital projection systems are somehow less popular than large screen TV's, even though for a given screen size, it's probably cheaper.

Oh well.

i think you need a specifically produced 3d projector dont you?
but yeah if you have the space for a screen, or a suitable blank wall a nice HD projector would an alternative to a TV. would mean watching tv with the light off all the time though, unless there are ones bright enough to be used with the light on?
sony produced a 3d projector already. still uses active shutter glasses rather than passive polariser glasses though, made me facepalm pretty hard when i read about it.
surely a single polarising LCD shutter on the projecter is cheaper than two blanking LCD shutters per viewer. hell the tech had already been produced for cinemas, in fact the principle was already in use for your basic 7-seg LCD calculator or watch display. it was just a case of fitting it to home projectors.

Yes, you probably do need a specially produced 3d projector.

Then again, I've seen hardware hackers make 3d projectors (one was made for use with second life). All it takes is 2 normal projectors, placed so that the images they project overlap.

(I'm sure you could figure out a way to do it with 1 projector, but for improvised equipment, that creates a lot of complicated timing and video signal alterations. Using two projectors, with a PC, it becomes almost as simple as a dual monitor setup.)

All the technical modification it took, was placing a polarising filter in front of each projector, aligning them so the images are the same size, and project to the same location, and then making sure your polarised glasses correctly match the polarisation of the projector images for each eye.

Hardly difficult to create, if a little expensive in that you need 2 projectors. (polarising filters cost next to nothing by comparison.)

If I had the equipment, I'd probably try and hack one together from the 3d cinema glasses I've got lying around.

To be quite honest, I think using shutter glasses with a projector is a stupid idea that can at best be because they want to have the same glasses for all their 'tv' systems, but in reality sounds like an excuse to use expensive glasses even when they aren't needed.

 

[milkkart]

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What, you mean like the cheap, disposable glasses a lot of cinemas are using now?

I do wonder why that isn't possible in the home...

Actually though, it is; A digital projection setup can pretty much match what the cinemas are doing... It's not even that difficult.

It's just... Digital projection systems are somehow less popular than large screen TV's, even though for a given screen size, it's probably cheaper.

Oh well.

i think you need a specifically produced 3d projector dont you?
but yeah if you have the space for a screen, or a suitable blank wall a nice HD projector would an alternative to a TV. would mean watching tv with the light off all the time though, unless there are ones bright enough to be used with the light on?
sony produced a 3d projector already. still uses active shutter glasses rather than passive polariser glasses though, made me facepalm pretty hard when i read about it.
surely a single polarising LCD shutter on the projecter is cheaper than two blanking LCD shutters per viewer. hell the tech had already been produced for cinemas, in fact the principle was already in use for your basic 7-seg LCD calculator or watch display. it was just a case of fitting it to home projectors.

Yes, you probably do need a specially produced 3d projector.

Then again, I've seen hardware hackers make 3d projectors (one was made for use with second life). All it takes is 2 normal projectors, placed so that the images they project overlap.

(I'm sure you could figure out a way to do it with 1 projector, but for improvised equipment, that creates a lot of complicated timing and video signal alterations. Using two projectors, with a PC, it becomes almost as simple as a dual monitor setup.)

All the technical modification it took, was placing a polarising filter in front of each projector, aligning them so the images are the same size, and project to the same location, and then making sure your polarised glasses correctly match the polarisation of the projector images for each eye.

Hardly difficult to create, if a little expensive in that you need 2 projectors. (polarising filters cost next to nothing by comparison.)

If I had the equipment, I'd probably try and hack one together from the 3d cinema glasses I've got lying around.

To be quite honest, I think using shutter glasses with a projector is a stupid idea that can at best be because they want to have the same glasses for all their 'tv' systems, but in reality sounds like an excuse to use expensive glasses even when they aren't needed.

damn, if i could get my hands on some cheap projectors id love to try that. still got a couple pairs of realD glasses that would be perfect for it too.

got a very cheap and shoddy projector knocking about, i wonder how expensive/difficult it would be to get an LCD polariser and build some electronics to sync it.

a lot of whats going on with 3d either seems to be stupid gimmickrey or rampant profiteering.
currently AFAIK all the passive glasses displays use row interleave polarisation so you get half the vertical resolution as well which seems pretty terrible. there seems to be a bunch of different formats for 3D dvds as well, because what we really need is another format war. ¬_¬