Good boss fights? Good villains?

BIGpanda

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DoW Lowen said:
I'm been playing games for a long time, and there's nothing i enjoy more than a climatic showdown at the end of a game. Most notably for me would be Kingdom Hearts 2 and Sudeki. What I also love is a truly brilliant villain.
...eh... KH2's final boss made me piss myself due to zebra patterns. I thought I was watching Micheal Jackson sing thriller for the first time when I was fighting Xemnas(or mansex)...which left me confused but sad. I would say something about killer 7 or no more heros just because studio 69 is actually really kewl.

why hasn't anyone said psycho mantis from the first MGS? I mean it wasn't hard but damned frustrating the first dozen times when until I realized I had to change my control from port one and back.
 

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MGS3 had the best boss fights i have ever played. I loved the different mindset you had to be in for some like when you had the sniping duel with The End and the "fight" with sorrow that fucked with your mind.

That was a big step up from MGS1 which had, well, Vulcan Raven. That boss made me hate the game (both fights).
 

DoW Lowen

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BIGpanda said:
why hasn't anyone said psycho mantis from the first MGS? I mean it wasn't hard but damned frustrating the first dozen times when until I realized I had to change my control from port one and back.
Unfortunately for me, I watched Egoraptor's Metal Gear Awesome and knew exactly what to do. Loved psycho mantis in number 4 though.
 

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DoW Lowen said:
BIGpanda said:
why hasn't anyone said psycho mantis from the first MGS? I mean it wasn't hard but damned frustrating the first dozen times when until I realized I had to change my control from port one and back.
Unfortunately for me, I watched Egoraptor's Metal Gear Awesome and knew exactly what to do. Loved psycho mantis in number 4 though.
aw...AW. is MSG4 really that big of a killer?!
I didn't play the game but with all this feed I'm getting I'm thinking I don't want to. long cinematics aside that was a good series.
 

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My favourite boss has to be in Portal. Not only is it clever, but it's just fucking funny. Actually, maybe the Zelda bosses. Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask especially. And Wind Waker in fact (sorry, I liked it).
 

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Not in terms of boss fight but in terms of villainous awesomeness, Mobius from Legacy of Kain: Defiance & Soulreaver. Its a great and well constructed villan
 

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wind waker for some reason made me feel as if i was playing a more vivid a link to the past because you get the master sword and you are still the kid as in LttP.
 

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The ingredients of a good boss fight are, in my opinion: an impressive-looking boss, a good setting, a strategy that relies on skill rather than luck, and a satisfying end to the fight. As such, I enjoyed almost all bosses in the Metroid series (all the games, not just the Prime ones). They were fun fights that required both thinking and fast reflexes to beat, which added to the satisfaction when you actually beat them. Another game that comes to mind when thinking of great boss battles is Second Samurai, a golden oldie from the Amiga era, which featured the same kind of boss fights as above. More recently, I enjoyed the God of War boss fights for the same reasons.

As for villains, my definition of a good villain is someone who establishes an eerie presence throughout the story, so that every time you meet him/her, you involuntarily gasp and hold your breath in anticipation of something bad that's sure to happen in the next few minutes. A good villain doesn't even need to fight you - he/she just shows up and ruins your day, then walks off to plan further misery for you. In this respect, for good villains I'd nominate:

Kain in the Legacy of Kain series: every time he showed up, you knew you were in for mind games. I'll agree that the storyline was messed up after Soul Reaver, but I still remember that incredible sense of foreboding Kain instilled in me.

The Queen of Blades in Starcraft: unusually for a RTS game (at the time, at least), Starcraft featured a pretty good storyline, and the Queen was a major part of it. We got to see her "transformation" story from start to end, when she comes into her own in the Brood War expansion.

Darth Malak in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: of all the Star Wars villains they have created for games, Darth Malak was the closest they got to making a "new" Darth Vader.

The Queen in Ico: She puts in only a handful of appearances during the entire game, but she is chilling malevolence personified.

The villain(s) in Shadow of Memories (I think it was called Shadow of Destiny for you American people): I'm not saying who in order not to spoil it, but if you play this game, you're in for a twisted time-travelling storyline that, in my opinion, has no equal in gaming. For the better part of the game, you don't even know who the villain is as you do anything and everything to foil his/her (successful!) attempts to kill you. Even when you finally think you know who it is, the game throws another twist at you. A total mind-job.
 

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Legend of Dragoon had some epic boss battles, if you can remember that game from PS1. The supervillian Lloyd was quite the character.
 

grunt-4-life

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i still wish i had my copy of legend of dragoon still.
falien i second you on the darth malek thing......pure evil if you ask me
 

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that will be the day that i will die because i love the way the older games are so challenging when you are oung and when you grow up, they are still hard no matter what you do.
 

Leeathal

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I posted a thread exactly the same as this not a while back. Im not complaining as I totally agree with you. Boss battles used to be the bees kness now its the cows ass.
 

Vlane

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Shadow of the Colossus of course.

MGS3, God of War 2 had some real winners and No More Heroes.
 

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MGS3 is a awesome game where if you fail to think then you die. and if you are tactical then you can win with just the Mk22 (and get extra camo e.g fur camo from Ocealot)
 

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bloodfang.kai said:
Ninja Gaiden bosses...

esp. that ***** from NG1.
But the Ninja Gaiden bosses are really easy for the most part which is a shame.