Good British food... does it exists?

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Aerosteam

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If by 'British' you mean 'English' then I will hate you forever. Assuming that's not the case, us Scots have invented this thing called haggis, a delicacy in Scotland... putrid slime ball mush poo everywhere else. Still good though.

Also assuming that 'food' you also mean 'drinks', Scots have also invented Irn Bru. Ever tasted God's sweat? Because I sure haven't and I was just curious. Anyway what I'm saying is that it tastes awesome.
 

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Superlative said:
I'm headed to London with my uni on Saturday and I can't help but wonder just how true or false the jokes about British cooking skills are. Is there such a thing as tasty food from England? does it cost an arm and a leg? will it be served by a gentleman wearing a top hat and monicle?


Also, if anyone is in the area and feels like hanging out with a ~190cm American, I'll more then likely be hanging out at the National Royal Hotel on the 6th at 6:30pm...
Remember , you pay about 20% more in London than the rest of the country... Think of it like capital tax.

The food in the UK is.... Basic. Chips, sausage, battered fish and much like our language, we borrow a lot stuff from other countries.

We have McDonalds, dominos and subway from 'Murica, plenty of curry houses from India etc.

Although from being forced to watch plenty of "man vs food"' muricans have much worse diets, talk about mound it up!
 

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Netrigan said:
CardinalPiggles said:
Also, OP, I'd recommend trying out Zizzi's restaurant if you immediately get sick of British dishes. Best food I have ever eaten. Italians really do know what they are doing. And it's relatively cheap given how good it is.

Netrigan said:
CardinalPiggles said:
Well we have good curri...

Keba...

Pizz...

Fish and chips?
Looks like the Belgians were the first to deep fry potato strips, so WRONG.

I'll have to wash down my disappointment in your post with a nice cup of tea... what could be more English. Oh, wait, nevermind.
I wasn't trying to say we invented eating fish or making chips, but as a dish, Fish and chips is very British.

Curry, Kebab and Pizza on the other hand are all foreign dishes.
I'm still smarting from having my beloved Cajun food being libeled as French Cuisine. I'm spreading the pain.
If you like, I could send you down a whole new path of rage and pain.

There are actual living people that put tomatoes in gumbo. Some of them don't even bother with that much and use tomato paste.

OT: I'm fairly certain that it's all just a stereotype. You can find good food most anywhere. Honestly, I would really look forward to trying one of these meat pies I've heard so much about.

And America has produced at least one legitimate wholly unique food. Sure, it's only one of the more recent in a long line of confectionery pursuits, but America gave the world fudge.



And the fudge shall not be denied. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how widespread fudge is.
 

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Furbyz said:
And America has produced at least one legitimate wholly unique food. Sure, it's only one of the more recent in a long line of confectionery pursuits, but America gave the world fudge.



And the fudge shall not be denied. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how widespread fudge is.

If we go all Native American on you, then we can probably add pretty much anything made out of corn, such as cornbread, grits, and hush-puppies. Soul food borrows extensively from Native American cuisine.
 
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rob_simple said:
If you're feeling homesick during your stay, come visit Glasgow: we will deep-fry literally any fucking thing you ask for.

Try our deep-fried Mars bars, you'll actually feel your heart slowing down; it's like a legal high.

i know where i'm going if i ever travel to Britain :D

there are tons of things in the US that are fried/dumped on with a pound of grease, but you can surprisingly find tons of food here that isn't like that.

although, one time i walked into burger king and ordered an 8 patty burger...yes, 8 fuckin patties, the damn thing added up to 3000 calories, i was afraid i wasn't going to wake up the next morning D:
 

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Aerosteam said:
Also assuming that 'food' you also mean 'drinks', Scots have also invented Irn Bru. Ever tasted God's sweat? Because I sure haven't and I was just curious. Anyway what I'm saying is that it tastes awesome.
This all the way. If you can, get it in a glass bottle as well. It's still pretty damn awesome in a normal plastic bottle, but it's just that bit better with glass.

Also I don't know why we decided to do this, but you can basically deep fry anything up here, and it'll be considered "Scottish cuisine" XD
 

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Lots of English food is nice, but I'm more well versed in Scottish cuisine.
Nothing beats Haggis, neeps n' tatties with an Irish coffee.
 

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As someone who is Australian Master Race and has travelled to the U.S I can probably give some pointers on it since we're made up of EVERY COUNTRY EVER.

If I remember correctly, Bacon and Eggs is touted as a British Breakfast, originating from Farmers. If you find a decent pub, look for something called a Mixed Grill. Generally Sausage, chips, bacon, steak, sometimes tomato...I forget what else goes on there.

A good roast (usually Lamb) is also a wonderful treat, not sure where you'll find one as I've never been to the U.K. Also, try some of the curries and Kebabs there; while not strictly British, they did add some twists and I didn't find any in the US of A.

Also, get some lollies (candy, not lolis) while you're there, vastly different to US' and even ours.

Now if you excuse me, I need to go back to sharpening my knife and kissing England's arse.
 

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Real British Trifle is a must have. So is scouse (Dunno if you can get that in London). Malt loaf is a love it or hate it food. I love it, but my sister found it too chewy.

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Dr.Susse

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There is some bad stuff but they are the masters of fish and chips.
Also you're there have some black pudding for the experience.

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I'm from the UK but what i eat really isn't important to me, basic tastes, i like mild cheese alot.
 

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Well, when I saw that this thread had ran to five pages I knew that everything I had ever thought of ever would have been said, but as a proud Englishman I must add my opinion into the mix!

The baffling stereotype that British food is terrible is a lie. A god-damned, nonsensical, stupid, frog spawned lie. Be careful in London. Being our capital, it's quite the tourist trap. Find yourself a good proper pub and order some nice hearty roast beef with big chunky golden chips. Then you shall see what proper British food is like.
 

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Furbyz said:
And the fudge shall not be denied. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how widespread fudge is.
Sorry mate, but fudge is actually a European food... being made primarily from sugar, which was imported from India.

Americans added chocolate to it, fruit to it, etc. but the original dishes, toffee, fudge and the primary recipes are all European.

Claiming that fudge is American is like claiming that the U.K. invented lamb just because it put mint sauce on top. Adding a different garnish doesn't reinvent the dish.

... so sorry, but ... DENIED.
 

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Frungy said:
Furbyz said:
And the fudge shall not be denied. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how widespread fudge is.
Sorry mate, but fudge is actually a European food... being made primarily from sugar, which was imported from India.

Americans added chocolate to it, fruit to it, etc. but the original dishes, toffee, fudge and the primary recipes are all European.

Claiming that fudge is American is like claiming that the U.K. invented lamb just because it put mint sauce on top. Adding a different garnish doesn't reinvent the dish.

... so sorry, but ... DENIED.
You are correct about toffee, of course, but no, the exact process for making fudge is widely believed to have been discovered in 1886 in Baltimore during a botched attempt to make caramels. The crystallizing of the sugar, milk, and butter mixture and whipping it as it cools to the creamy texture characterized as modern day fudge was happened upon in America. I am not denying that other similar confections are European, but fudge, as we know it today, is American. We didn't come along and add chocolate. We came along, screwed up a completely different recipe, and it happened to turn out pretty well. Here's a European that did his research admitting such and a host of others saying the exact same thing.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/ar-fud1.htm

http://www.darbysfudge.com/fudgehistory.html
http://www.thenibble.com/reviews/main/candy/old/history-of-fudge.asp
http://bbgees.com/History_of_Fudge_Explained.html

Though, you could go so far to say as we didn't come up with a dish so much as a texture. I would consider that a very valid point.

Also, I apologize for my countrymen. I really have no idea why this place breeds such stubborn, pigheadedness, but it does with frightening regularity.
 

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Netrigan said:
Furbyz said:
And America has produced at least one legitimate wholly unique food. Sure, it's only one of the more recent in a long line of confectionery pursuits, but America gave the world fudge.



And the fudge shall not be denied. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how widespread fudge is.

If we go all Native American on you, then we can probably add pretty much anything made out of corn, such as cornbread, grits, and hush-puppies. Soul food borrows extensively from Native American cuisine.
you could, but why would you want to add those? Grits are terrible, cornbeard and hush puppies are basically the same thing except one is more fried than the other.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
British food is fucking awesome.

Sorry, normally I hate anything to do with nationalism, but I never understood this thing where British cuisine gets spat on. We've got some of the tastiest food on the planet, and even better, it'll actually fill you up!
Yes. While visiting family in England, every place with breakfast that I stayed at was phenomenal. Very thick, but still crispy bacon, full cooked sausage, fried tomatoes over egg, and sweetened grains that put my mini-wheats to shame. That's just breakfast.

Great, now I'm craving things that I won't be able to find...
 

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Furbyz said:
You are correct about toffee, of course, but no, the exact process for making fudge is widely believed to have been discovered in 1886 in Baltimore during a botched attempt to make caramels. The crystallizing of the sugar, milk, and butter mixture and whipping it as it cools to the creamy texture characterized as modern day fudge was happened upon in America. I am not denying that other similar confections are European, but fudge, as we know it today, is American. We didn't come along and add chocolate. We came along, screwed up a completely different recipe, and it happened to turn out pretty well. Here's a European that did his research admitting such and a host of others saying the exact same thing.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/ar-fud1.htm

http://www.darbysfudge.com/fudgehistory.html
http://www.thenibble.com/reviews/main/candy/old/history-of-fudge.asp
http://bbgees.com/History_of_Fudge_Explained.html

Though, you could go so far to say as we didn't come up with a dish so much as a texture. I would consider that a very valid point.
The Scots Tablet (taiblet), which has a courser, grainier texture is closer to what I would consider Fudge (I quite dislike the more toffee-like fudges... if I want toffee I'll eat toffees, if I want fudge I want something crumbly that'll dissolve in my mouth), and predates the American Fudge by nearly a hundred years (the recipe is a little different, with the Scots tablet using sugar, condensed milk and butter, while the American Fudge uses sugar, butter, milk and often chocolate and/or fruit).

There's also a similar Indian (originally possibly Persian) dessert known as Barfi (an unfortunate name ;) ) that dates back to the 16th century, which used similar ingredients to American Fudge, but normally includes nuts and and fruit.

The history of food is quite fascinating, and by the dates I would suggest that modern "Fudge" originated in ancient Persia, went to India, and then courtesy of colonisation made its way to Scotland and from there to the U.S., with each culture changing the recipe and flavour a little, as well as the trimmings.

I apologise for my original post placing the origin as European, it seems that the Middle East is most probably the earliest point of origin for the dish that we now call "fudge".

Furbyz said:
Also, I apologize for my countrymen. I really have no idea why this place breeds such stubborn, pigheadedness, but it does with frightening regularity.
You are an officer and a gentleman. Your apology is accepted with gratitude for the kind gesture.
 

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Ryotknife said:
Netrigan said:
Furbyz said:
And America has produced at least one legitimate wholly unique food. Sure, it's only one of the more recent in a long line of confectionery pursuits, but America gave the world fudge.



And the fudge shall not be denied. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how widespread fudge is.

If we go all Native American on you, then we can probably add pretty much anything made out of corn, such as cornbread, grits, and hush-puppies. Soul food borrows extensively from Native American cuisine.
you could, but why would you want to add those? Grits are terrible, cornbeard and hush puppies are basically the same thing except one is more fried than the other.
Grits are tits, dude. Really, it's just another way to make risotto. And there is nothing at all wrong with cornbread. NOTHING. Crumble some into a nice spicy chili and I'm all set.
 

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You are most likely not going to find "British Food" in London.
London is a world city. If you want to eat nothing but Thai Food for a week, it can be done more easily than finding some actual "British Food" there, whatever that may be.