Good JRPGs

[StarStruckStrumpets]

Final Fantasy IX was amazing. It was overshadowed by the release of the PS2 in the same quarter, but it was a damn good Final Fantasy game, especially for the PS1. Lengthy...slightly as there is four discs not to mention they sorta fell trhough with having half of their strategy guide online, but it never stopped being fun or entertaining.

1) Dark Cloud
2) Dark Chronicle

Isn't Dark Chronicle what they called Dark Cloud in Japan?

Nuh-uh. Dark Chronicle is the European release name for what anyone in the US would call Dark Cloud 2.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

chrono trigger.

Does that count as "since 2000", though? I mean, the original one was out in the '90s.
Otherwise, you're damn right.

1) Dark Cloud
2) Dark Chronicle
3) Kingdom Hearts
4) Kingdom Hearts II
5) Lost Odyssey

lol, you trollan

As soon as he/she said Dark Cloud, I thought it was a troll. My suspicions were confirmed when they listed Lost Odyssey.

What, listing the Kingdom Hearts games wasn't a resounding alarm bell too? :V

Besides that, four of those games aren't even arguably JRPGs, they're adventure games. Dude needs to learn his genres, amirite?

I personally hated Kingdom Hearts, but enough people like it for me to think that perhaps I'm wrong about it and it's actually a masterpiece and I'm just not clever enough to "get it."

Gah--dude, never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever believe the Squaretards. Especially not the ones who flip out over KH. These are the same kind of people who would insist that Phantasy Star is an FF ripoff or that FFXI did everything in any MMORPG ever made before everybody else.*

Don't listen to Disney fanchildren, either. They're their own brand of delusional.

[sub]* Or perhaps that Neon Genesis Evangelion was actually very deep, but that's really neither here nor there.[/sub]

Good to see that I'm not the only one that thinks Kingdom Hearts is garbage.

It's garbage, but I played the first one to the end anyway. Gave me something to do when I got bored with Homeworld :T

I've only ever played it on the DS

Judgemental much? I've got things to say to you that would get me banned. I'm not a Square-Tard either. Some people are so ignorant. I listed some games I like, and now I'm Disney's *****? How very insightful of you.

 

[SeanthePsycho]

Nuh-uh. Dark Chronicle is the European release name for what anyone in the US would call Dark Cloud 2.

Oh damn...thats right. My mistake. Still, it was a pretty good game since they fixed a couple of issues from the first.

 

[Von Dean]

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter? not an all time classic I know,but often overlooked

Having been a Breath of Fire fan since the first one, (read: I wanted to like BOF5) I despised Dragon Quarter.

It was a great concept (brilliant even) that was very poorly executed.

I'm sure it got somewhat better as you progressed, but there was a distinct lack of early Healing Items (or spells) combined with a lack of an Inn (or the equivalent). This basically meant that I ran around with two useless party members that had 1HP all the time and the main character that I did my best to keep healthy (what with the lack of any healing items).

I'm sure the healing items became more plentiful (or a spell was added) but honestly, I just couldn't deal with such a poor start to the game and back to the rental store it went in record time.

That;s a shame cos it's got some great replayability features (the better your rank for finishing the game means new areas the 2nd time round, allowing you to go new places and get an even better rank thus letting you into even more areas)this basically means you have to play it at least 2times right through just to be able to access evey area by your 3rd playthrough. And yeah it was a tough game but I like a challenge

 

[Mr.Lucifer]

Pokemon. one of the best game series of all time and the most complex battle system of any rpg game.

I also kingdom hearts. Yes i do think a crossover between disney character and final fantasy character are cool.

 

[sidereal_day]

Pokemon. one of the best game series of all time and the most complex battle system of any rpg game.

I also kingdom hearts. Yes i do think a crossover between disney character and final fantasy character are cool.

Err, Pokemon's battle system is complex? It's just rock-paper-scissors.

 

[Mr.Lucifer]

Pokemon. one of the best game series of all time and the most complex battle system of any rpg game.

I also kingdom hearts. Yes i do think a crossover between disney character and final fantasy character are cool.

Err, Pokemon's battle system is complex? It's just rock-paper-scissors.

Its more than that. You just don't depend on type but also their stats,their movepool,abilities,personalities, and their place in the team. Jesus, you'd be surprised how hard it is to build a good team.

http://www.smogon.com/

this site expalins just how complicated the battle system is and how hard it is to build a good team.

 

[sidereal_day]

Pokemon. one of the best game series of all time and the most complex battle system of any rpg game.

I also kingdom hearts. Yes i do think a crossover between disney character and final fantasy character are cool.

Err, Pokemon's battle system is complex? It's just rock-paper-scissors.

Its more than that. You just don't depend on type but also their stats,their movepool,abilities,personalities, and their place in the team. Jesus, you'd be surprised how hard it is to build a good team.

http://www.smogon.com/

this site expalins just how complicated the battle system is and how hard it is to build a good team.

Dude, I've been playing Pokemon since 1998. I'm pretty sure I know how it works. Little fanboy pages aside, Pokemon is RPG-lite. It's not bad because of it; I love Pokemon. But Pokemon's battle system is one of the least complex I've ever come across.

 

[Mr.Lucifer]

Pokemon. one of the best game series of all time and the most complex battle system of any rpg game.

I also kingdom hearts. Yes i do think a crossover between disney character and final fantasy character are cool.

Err, Pokemon's battle system is complex? It's just rock-paper-scissors.

Its more than that. You just don't depend on type but also their stats,their movepool,abilities,personalities, and their place in the team. Jesus, you'd be surprised how hard it is to build a good team.

http://www.smogon.com/

this site expalins just how complicated the battle system is and how hard it is to build a good team.

Dude, I've been playing Pokemon since 1998. I'm pretty sure I know how it works. Little fanboy pages aside, Pokemon is RPG-lite. It's not bad because of it; I love Pokemon. But Pokemon's battle system is one of the least complex I've ever come across.

Have you ever been in the competitions? I'm serious, the games are fucking easy, but the metagame is a ***** to play in. I know what I'm talking about,. In the metagame, you can just pick you favorite pokemon, you have to raise them to level L100, make sure they have a good movepool, make sure they have good stats to back up those moves, etc.

I'm not kidding, even having a good pokemon hardly matters.

 

[Composer]

How many times will this thread come to light?!

Just for you:

1) Dark Cloud
2) Dark Chronicle
3) Kingdom Hearts
4) Kingdom Hearts II
5) Lost Odyssey

Obviously many more, however you asked for five. Welcome to The Escapist. Remember the search bar. It will be with you, always...

woooo~~~~ someone remembers dark cloud!!!
also idk how kingdom hearts is a jrpq except for the fact it was made in japan.

 

[sidereal_day]

Pokemon. one of the best game series of all time and the most complex battle system of any rpg game.

I also kingdom hearts. Yes i do think a crossover between disney character and final fantasy character are cool.

Err, Pokemon's battle system is complex? It's just rock-paper-scissors.

Its more than that. You just don't depend on type but also their stats,their movepool,abilities,personalities, and their place in the team. Jesus, you'd be surprised how hard it is to build a good team.

http://www.smogon.com/

this site expalins just how complicated the battle system is and how hard it is to build a good team.

Dude, I've been playing Pokemon since 1998. I'm pretty sure I know how it works. Little fanboy pages aside, Pokemon is RPG-lite. It's not bad because of it; I love Pokemon. But Pokemon's battle system is one of the least complex I've ever come across.

Have you ever been in the competitions? I'm serious, the games are fucking easy, but the metagame is a ***** to play in. I know what I'm talking about,. In the metagame, you can just pick you favorite pokemon, you have to raise them to level L100, make sure they have a good movepool, make sure they have good stats to back up those moves, etc.

I'm not kidding, even having a good pokemon hardly matters.

I admit I have not spent one second in any competitive Pokemon tournament. Maybe I'm just missing some super cool aspect of the Pokemon community?

 

[Steppin Razor]

Have you ever been in the competitions? I'm serious, the games are fucking easy, but the metagame is a ***** to play in. I know what I'm talking about,. In the metagame, you can just pick you favorite pokemon, you have to raise them to level L100, make sure they have a good movepool, make sure they have good stats to back up those moves, etc.

I'm not kidding, even having a good pokemon hardly matters.

Other JRPGs sometimes include optional bosses that can instant kill an entire party of characters at max level and stats if you don't have the right equipment, party positioning, moves learnt/taught, items, etc. Tiny adjustments to any of the characters can be the difference between winning and losing the battle. A lot of the bosses also change up their moves after dropping below a certain amount of HP, requiring a change in tactics mid-battle. Hence, the argument can be made that if other JRPGs allowed for players to battle one another, their metagame's would be just as deep and complex.

[sub]Edited for grammar[/sub]

 

[Grayjack]

Any game from the SMT library. Trust me, you will love them.

 

[Mr.Lucifer]

I just found the plot cool.