Goodbye World of Warcraft, hello Rift?
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I tried Rift during the beta, didn't like it.
In the small amount of time that I did play World of Warcraft, I can say that it's still better than any other MMO that has attempted to dethrone it lately.
In the small amount of time that I did play World of Warcraft, I can say that it's still better than any other MMO that has attempted to dethrone it lately.
i have heard great things about rift but the fact is, wow has had years to address problems and polish the game. that, i feel, is the core reason why no other mmo can compete. no mmo is going to be completely perfect, right away. based on the popularity of rift so far, in a few months, once it has time to get a feel for things and polish the gameplay accordingly, i feel like i could potentially be competition for wow. right now, however, im not holding my breath
Actually, no, not that I've heard. Good point. I am still worried, however, that it may not sell well in the face of other bigger games and, therefore, still fail for reasons completely unrelated to the game's actual merit.Bags159 said:
Every new MMO that is released is called a WOW killer. All have failed (I'm looking at you, Warhammer Online). The only way WOW is going to be dethroned is if Blizzard does something stupid and brings it on themselves. There is too much of a base for people to just give it up for something else.
Hard to believe that the franchise will be toppled just because there's a better title.djfranza said:
If that was the case, Apple wouldn't have six different iProducts.
Three years, then Rift will go F2P just like LotRO and D&D Online.
That's my prediction. Once it hits F2P, I might check it then. Till then, I'll not let my eyes be dazzled by the honeymoon shine on this game. Let it go for a year, then see what it looks like in the mirror. That beautiful new bride will probably become a haggard old crone.
That's my prediction. Once it hits F2P, I might check it then. Till then, I'll not let my eyes be dazzled by the honeymoon shine on this game. Let it go for a year, then see what it looks like in the mirror. That beautiful new bride will probably become a haggard old crone.
It won't kill WoW, but hopefully it'll have a small success.
I'm planning on picking up the game myself in a while. Gonna learn more about first and check some more gameplay videos before making that decision though.
I'm planning on picking up the game myself in a while. Gonna learn more about first and check some more gameplay videos before making that decision though.
It seems to me that almost everyone that claims Rift is a suckier version of WoW are people who by their own admission haven't played Rift.
Im really enjoying the game myself, it's got an interesting class system allowing many different builds, a solid endgame with plenty of things for players to do, and some good dungeon and raid content.
Im not saying it's going to kill WoW, I imagine WoW is going to do just fine regardless but I think it may well give the game some much needed competition.
I've played WoW for years, what kept me there was the PvE content as is the case for many other people, all the recent MMO releases have all gone down the road of OMFGPvPGAMEZROXXORZ and failed miserably in their ridiculous ignorance of the much larger PvE community. Im not saying I hate PvP, I play on PvP servers because it can be lots of fun but PvE is really what keeps a community coming back for more.
OMFGPvPGAMEROXXORZ = PvP game. Just in case that confused you..
Im really enjoying the game myself, it's got an interesting class system allowing many different builds, a solid endgame with plenty of things for players to do, and some good dungeon and raid content.
Im not saying it's going to kill WoW, I imagine WoW is going to do just fine regardless but I think it may well give the game some much needed competition.
I've played WoW for years, what kept me there was the PvE content as is the case for many other people, all the recent MMO releases have all gone down the road of OMFGPvPGAMEZROXXORZ and failed miserably in their ridiculous ignorance of the much larger PvE community. Im not saying I hate PvP, I play on PvP servers because it can be lots of fun but PvE is really what keeps a community coming back for more.
OMFGPvPGAMEROXXORZ = PvP game. Just in case that confused you..
Rift is a good WoW that isn't WoW. Though honestly after my 3 weeks there, it feels more like EQ2 than WoW. Not that that's a fault. EQ2 was the far superior MMO of that generation, imo, but they made a game that no one could run and no one could solo past level 5. Rift resolves a lot of those issues and borrows a lot of good ideas from many of it's predecessors.
Anyway, no it won't be dethroning WoW. WoW's too accessible both for casual players, terrible players, and people with crap computers. It also has that built in separation anxiety problem for people who would have to leave their friends/guildmates to move to a new game.
I'm not going to say its "better" cause "better" is subjective. I quit WoW a year ago since I found the direction the game was taking to be incredibly mundane (Doing the same dailies and farming ICC and no place else in both 10 and 25man), have no intention on going back, and find Rift very enjoyable.
Oh, and please don't compare it to Aion. Aion was massively misrepresented by the devs and the testers. That was a grindy, ganky, KMMO in its purest form and it failed because the western audience doesn't flock to that sort of gameplay except for the sociopaths who like killing people who can't fight back and are 30 levels below them.
Anyway, no it won't be dethroning WoW. WoW's too accessible both for casual players, terrible players, and people with crap computers. It also has that built in separation anxiety problem for people who would have to leave their friends/guildmates to move to a new game.
I'm not going to say its "better" cause "better" is subjective. I quit WoW a year ago since I found the direction the game was taking to be incredibly mundane (Doing the same dailies and farming ICC and no place else in both 10 and 25man), have no intention on going back, and find Rift very enjoyable.
Oh, and please don't compare it to Aion. Aion was massively misrepresented by the devs and the testers. That was a grindy, ganky, KMMO in its purest form and it failed because the western audience doesn't flock to that sort of gameplay except for the sociopaths who like killing people who can't fight back and are 30 levels below them.
WoW is a great game with a lot of depth, but no matter how amazing the game is people aren't going to stick with it forever. I like the Wind Waker but I'm not going to play it 5 billion times.
I played WoW, got a character to 85, felt satisfied with my experience with it and moved on.
I played WoW, got a character to 85, felt satisfied with my experience with it and moved on.
WoW will never die until Blizzard pulls the plug on it. People have said the same about Aion and Warhammer Online, now no-one even talks about them. I hadn't even heard mention of Warhammer Online for years until I read the post above the reply box.
Basically, what he said.
Basically, what he said.
I wouldn't say WoW is going the way of the dodo just yet. That's doomsaying.
But i will say Blizzard is probably well aware of the expected shelf life of its flagship online title, hence why they're looking to innovate and re-imagine with Titan. I have every confidence they'll be able to draw their demographic back, and i'm not just saying that as a Blizzard fanboy; they have 10 years or so of experience backing them up.
Edit: I'd also like to say, though unrelated, i'd love to try Rift but the constant news i'm hearing about hackers has me worried.
But i will say Blizzard is probably well aware of the expected shelf life of its flagship online title, hence why they're looking to innovate and re-imagine with Titan. I have every confidence they'll be able to draw their demographic back, and i'm not just saying that as a Blizzard fanboy; they have 10 years or so of experience backing them up.
Edit: I'd also like to say, though unrelated, i'd love to try Rift but the constant news i'm hearing about hackers has me worried.
The market was far less saturated back then than it is right now. Every one wants a slice of the MMO pie. The problem with MMO's is that in contrast to other types of games, most people only play one MMO. Some play two but more is extremely rare, simply because of the time investment is requires to play one and get somewhere within the game.Xzi said:
Also, Blizzard had it's name to go on. They invested heavily in the right places (like a good starting experience, to draw even the most novice of players in) and they had the already massively popular Warcraft franchise. I initially started playing because I was interested in the Warcraft lore. Rift would never do that for me.
I play wow and am certainly thinking to myself that Rift is not that good, in fact I saw a playthrough trailer and thought, How did that person get better wow graphics?
Seriously, it is trying to be WoW, not kill WoW but be WoW.
Lot's of rift defenders are saying that I would not like it because I havent played it but judging from what people who have played it are saying there is no chance I'm going to try.
From the looks of it Rift doesn't even have proper story and is pretty much BC with no proper lore. Yeah, randomn spawns from tough enemies but that happens with events on WoW, like hallows eve and anytime there is an expansion, in fact the enemies spawning from a portal reminds me of The cataclysm event.
The person who said they quit WoW after 10 levels because they reached the barrens should not play rift because from earlier posts the starting zone was brown
Oh and people saying guild wars 2 is different think about this
Cataclysm lets people play as dog people
Guild wars 2 lets people play as cat people, anything similar there?
Oh and Xzi, shut up. you are spewing defences from your keyboard at every single time someone replies to your post that you are wrong because such and such
Who cares if it has better graphics? Say if somone made half life 2 with better graphics but same interface and setting with different charachter models and names, would you buy that, no because you know It's a ripoff becasue they had Facelobsters.
What is more likely to be a Wow killer is if a dragon came out of the ground in real life and everyone goes to fight it (and dies because nobody would actually know what to do)
And people saying that they quit after finishing one character, what happens when you finish playing with rift, go back to Wow?
Seriously, it is trying to be WoW, not kill WoW but be WoW.
Lot's of rift defenders are saying that I would not like it because I havent played it but judging from what people who have played it are saying there is no chance I'm going to try.
From the looks of it Rift doesn't even have proper story and is pretty much BC with no proper lore. Yeah, randomn spawns from tough enemies but that happens with events on WoW, like hallows eve and anytime there is an expansion, in fact the enemies spawning from a portal reminds me of The cataclysm event.
The person who said they quit WoW after 10 levels because they reached the barrens should not play rift because from earlier posts the starting zone was brown
Oh and people saying guild wars 2 is different think about this
Cataclysm lets people play as dog people
Guild wars 2 lets people play as cat people, anything similar there?
Oh and Xzi, shut up. you are spewing defences from your keyboard at every single time someone replies to your post that you are wrong because such and such
Who cares if it has better graphics? Say if somone made half life 2 with better graphics but same interface and setting with different charachter models and names, would you buy that, no because you know It's a ripoff becasue they had Facelobsters.
What is more likely to be a Wow killer is if a dragon came out of the ground in real life and everyone goes to fight it (and dies because nobody would actually know what to do)
And people saying that they quit after finishing one character, what happens when you finish playing with rift, go back to Wow?