Gothic or Goth ick?

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cheesy title but regardless, steam recently has posted up the gothic bundle, which are all 75% off of their respective titles, and i don't really want all of them, but i am intrigued by gothic 3 and 4

-What rpg is gothic *insert number here* most comparable or similar to? (the steam descriptions seemed kind of vague)
-Would you recommend it?

and for side discussion to keep a thread possibly going:

What is your favorite genre by far? and after having years of experience on said genre, what "gem" would you say is your favorite or surprisingly awesome?

example:

rpg's by far are my favorite, and when i first played neverwinter nights 2 i had heard some massive shite about it, so i wasn't too sure on it..but hot damn, after roughly an hour of learning the system, that game had me addicted for 90 hours in a solid two weeks of playing, i couldn't get enough of that game (and that was this past winter, so not nostalgia speaking) and i would recommend it to anyone who prefers a classic rpg experience.
 

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The Gothic series is less Neverwinter Nights and more Elder Scrolls in terms of rpg actually. The Gothic series has always been about exploring these massive, open worlds and interacting with the creatures, stories, and characters that inhabit them.

Gothic 2 is generally considered the strongest of the series, a sentiment I agree with. Bought a copy of the game via GOG awhile back and had a blast replaying it! Gothic 4 although the most recent is generally also seen as the weakest since it was actually by a different developer than the other 3 games.

Anyway one of the things Gothic 2 and the entire series in general does better than most other 'open world' rpg is that the developers did a great job of imbuing the game world with some sense of life. Extremely detail focused, everything feels hand-crafted and exploring the little nooks and cranny is a worthwhile endeavour since the games developers took the time to hide little things everywhere for those explorers out there to discover. I also like how choices have consequences. In Gothic 2 there are three different factions you have the ability to join, which one of those 3 you join will have a massive impact on how the story then unfolds and in some cases how other NPC will react and treat you. It's very well done!

I've always liked the series myself obviously, although it's sadly fallen into a bit of a rut. Publisher got a new developer to make Gothic 4 while the series original devs went off and made their own 'spiritual successor' to the franchise with Risen. Neither game did fantastic, although Risen is generally agreed to be the better of the two. Not that it changes how far the series has fallen in recent years.

Still, if you're a fan of exploring open world rpg setting than this is the series for you. In many respects the old Gothic games are better than most of the newer rpg of the same type. If you're not a fan of that sort of game however, then it's probably best you look elsewhere.

And on a side note, be warned, Steam don't tweak the older games they sell and Gothic 1 and 2 often have trouble on newer computers, that's why I bought my copy of Gothic 2 through GOG. Still, if you're willing to take the time to get em working right, bloody good deal on STEAM. Gothic 3 was in a pretty rough state when it was first released, but I've heard good things about it being patched and improved since so I'm damned tempted to pick it up myself.

Gothic 4 is probably a miss though.
 

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Gothic is about exploration in a realistic world. That's all. Gothic 2 is the best at it. It has many elements from various RPG's, from dialogue to leveling up and skills, but it's just...you have to play it to understand. Start with Gothic 2, then go straight to Risen (same devs, same type of game).
 
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The Madman said:
The Gothic series is less Neverwinter Nights and more Elder Scrolls in terms of rpg actually. The Gothic series has always been about exploring these massive, open worlds and interacting with the creatures, stories, and characters that inhabit them.

Gothic 2 is generally considered the strongest of the series, a sentiment I agree with. Bought a copy of the game via GOG awhile back and had a blast replaying it! Gothic 4 although the most recent is generally also seen as the weakest since it was actually by a different developer than the other 3 games.

Anyway one of the things Gothic 2 and the entire series in general does better than most other 'open world' rpg is that the developers did a great job of imbuing the game world with some sense of life. Extremely detail focused, everything feels hand-crafted and exploring the little nooks and cranny is a worthwhile endeavour since the games developers took the time to hide little things everywhere for those explorers out there to discover. I also like how choices have consequences. In Gothic 2 there are three different factions you have the ability to join, which one of those 3 you join will have a massive impact on how the story then unfolds and in some cases how other NPC will react and treat you. It's very well done!

I've always liked the series myself obviously, although it's sadly fallen into a bit of a rut. Publisher got a new developer to make Gothic 4 while the series original devs went off and made their own 'spiritual successor' to the franchise with Risen. Neither game did fantastic, although Risen is generally agreed to be the better of the two. Not that it changes how far the series has fallen in recent years.

Still, if you're a fan of exploring open world rpg setting than this is the series for you. In many respects the old Gothic games are better than most of the newer rpg of the same type. If you're not a fan of that sort of game however, then it's probably best you look elsewhere.

And on a side note, be warned, Steam don't tweak the older games they sell and Gothic 1 and 2 often have trouble on newer computers, that's why I bought my copy of Gothic 2 through GOG. Still, if you're willing to take the time to get em working right, bloody good deal on STEAM. Gothic 3 was in a pretty rough state when it was first released, but I've heard good things about it being patched and improved since so I'm damned tempted to pick it up myself.

Gothic 4 is probably a miss though.
i've really come to appreciate open world rpg's as of the past year or two, so i definitely think i might give gothic 2 a go and possible gothic 3 (the expansion pack was supposed to be solid too from what i read in a few things?)

oh and near every game i buy i have computer troubles with..thats just the way my life goes with computers..so gothic 2 won't be anything new when i have trouble running it. (oddly enough fallout new vegas and DA2 ran without a single hitch for me. ironic.)