You know i really would like to ask ben frank what he really meant by that quote or rather how he would go about backing up such a statement. If you had someone close to you, shot to death for no reason except some guys with guns were high. Wouldn't you give up your right to a gun and in return take away anyone else's right to a gun? And see the thing is, it makes perfect sense. Take away the guns and should it come to fisticuffs you know you can at least beat the living shit out of some dudes who can't even think coherently. Also police could be given more power to wield their weapons. Like the old police forces in UK, give them smack and they'd smack you the face. Hard.Dugarel said:"Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security, deserve neither and will lose both." Benjamin Franklin.