GTA V for PC Petition

[goose4291]

Didn't you hear? They announced that "they have no plans for PC"

Don't forget that they also said this about GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas, and GTA4.
But they all got PC versions eventually anyway.

It would be very stupid of Rockstar to abandon the platform that this entire franchise began on.

And LA Noire... Rockstar even told a barefaced lie and said it would be impossible to port it over to PC and therefore they weren't going to bother.

 

[Something Amyss]

The reason I call it unplayable is because is was literally the console version on the PC. Control symbols and the like were always Xbox buttons, even if you had no controller plugged in.

And here we go: Not unplayable.

 

[Something Amyss]

If you're a PC gamer, allow me to ask you why you do this to yourself.

Probably for the same reason PS3 owners keep buying Bethesda games.

That doesn't make any sense, either. But at least it's a limited scope of titles.

 

[hazabaza1]

The reason I call it unplayable is because is was literally the console version on the PC. Control symbols and the like were always Xbox buttons, even if you had no controller plugged in.

And here we go: Not unplayable.

You're fucking kidding me, right?
Needing someone to use another product in order to functionally play your game and not providing it yourself is just shitty design, as well as shitty customer relations.
Of course, my response is only valid if you were attempting to say "well, it's playable with a controller, so it's not unplayable" because your response was so vague and gave me so little work with.

Captcha: better call saul
Can Saul provide me with a decent Dark Souls PC port?

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

If you're a PC gamer, allow me to ask you why you do this to yourself.

Probably for the same reason PS3 owners keep buying Bethesda games.

That doesn't make any sense, either. But at least it's a limited scope of titles.

Not really... Bethesda games are the most obvious/consistent example for the PS3 but they're far from the only ones.


Anyway, to get back to you question of why PC gamers keep supporting devs and publishers that put little to no effort into their PC titles/versions/ports or other bullshit... well, I can't really say because I don't support them. I either refuse to buy the game (if I have an issue with the company's behaviour) or I wait for the major problems to be fixed before ponying up the cash (for technical problems).

The problem is that it's a lose-lose situation... support the half-arsed approach to PC gaming and you contribute to it's continuance... don't support it and devs and publishers start crying about piracy and the death of PC gaming, encouraging them to either half-arse it even more, pull more anti-consumer bullshit (increasingly intrusive DRM, etc) or pull out of PC game dev entirely.

Well, okay, it's not entirely lose-lose if/where PC gamers support the devs and publishers that don't treat PC gaming as an after thought. They're the section(s) of the industry we should be supporting, not the shitheels who pretend as if they're doing us a great favour by selling us some 2nd rate port... although we should also remember that they ARE businesses not our best mates.

 

[Rawne1980]

After the state of GTA4 ... no spankyou.

It's quite simple for me, much in the same way Ubisoft made it easy for me.

They stick 2 fingers up at PC gamers and expect us to like it, so I stick 2 fingers up back at them and don't buy their products.

I was, almost, tempted with Far Cry 3 but then the whole Steam debacle reminded me why I avoid Ubisoft like i'd avoid masturbating with a right hand riddled with leprosy.

This isn't the first, and won't be last, time Rockstar has "considered" PC while it wants to focus on console. I don't have the time nor the patience to deal with people that want to be dicks about it.

EA gets a lot of flack but at least we know where we stand with them. Rockstar and Ubisoft can fuck right off.

 

[Laughing Man]

After the state of GTA4 ... no spankyou.

Yeah if only they released several performance enhancing and stability patches for... oh wait a minute they did.

I was, almost, tempted with Far Cry 3 but then the whole Steam debacle reminded me why I avoid Ubisoft like i'd avoid masturbating with a right hand riddled with leprosy.

Yeah it really bugged me, I was gagging at the bit to buy Far Cry 3, to have it attached to a service that is slow, buggy, riddled with nonsense and goes tits up when ever their is a hint of a sale. I really feel like a dick for downloading Uplay, buying it direct from their store and then having to run the game through a service that loads in seconds and actually seems to work. I really wanted that opportunity to have to run Steam that chance to wait a minute and a half while it logs on, the opportunity to wait while it runs it's back ground server checks, the opportunity to wait while it decides if my games are available to play just now and then for it then run Uplay as well but I just had to opt for running Uplay by itself damn me for choosing a fast, loads in seconds and does the job service when Steam was just sitting right there as an alternative.... damn I feel awful!

 

[Something Amyss]

Needing someone to use another product in order to functionally play your game and not providing it yourself is just shitty design, as well as shitty customer relations.

Far as I can tell, it's not required. Stop being so dramatic.

I suppose you also hate flight sims.

 

[hazabaza1]

Needing someone to use another product in order to functionally play your game and not providing it yourself is just shitty design, as well as shitty customer relations.

Far as I can tell, it's not required. Stop being so dramatic.

I suppose you also hate flight sims.

Okay, well I can see you're going to keep on going "well it's not actually required so stop being such a whiner, gawd" but it's simply one of those situations where you need to play the game on PC to see how fucking bad the K+M controls are.

Oh, and as for that little snark at the end? No, I don't like flight sims, mainly because I find most simulator games really boring.
However, I have played the odd demo and quite a few seem to have functional K+M controls. Sure, a joystick may be preferred, but I could play it without. That's called a good control scheme, which apparently, you can't wrap your head around.

 

[Something Amyss]

The problem is that it's a lose-lose situation... support the half-arsed approach to PC gaming and you contribute to it's continuance... don't support it and devs and publishers start crying about piracy and the death of PC gaming, encouraging them to either half-arse it even more, pull more anti-consumer bullshit (increasingly intrusive DRM, etc) or pull out of PC game dev entirely.

From what I understand, Dark Souls and GTA are so "horrible" on PC as to be "torture."

I can't imagine how the "lose" options where you spend money and a lot of aggrivation is caused are any better than or equal to the one you don't.

Not you specifically; I know you don't. Just to clarify.

But there are a lot of gamers who describe these games as broken and unplayable. They then go and demand more, buy them, and act all surprised. I'm pretty sure I'd rather have no game than pay for a game if it's likely to be a broken mess.

 

[Shadowstar38]

With this and Dark Souls, I would have thought PC gamers would just go ahead and cough up for a console instead of going through all this.

 

[Gergar12_v1legacy]

I feel bad with my PS3 I should sigh it.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

The problem is that it's a lose-lose situation... support the half-arsed approach to PC gaming and you contribute to it's continuance... don't support it and devs and publishers start crying about piracy and the death of PC gaming, encouraging them to either half-arse it even more, pull more anti-consumer bullshit (increasingly intrusive DRM, etc) or pull out of PC game dev entirely.

From what I understand, Dark Souls and GTA are so "horrible" on PC as to be "torture."

Yeah, well, never let it be said that gamers don't have a penchant for hyperbole.

Although if Dark Soul really can't be played without a controller (and the inverse mouse acceleration is fucking perplexing), I would define that as torture because my hands and controllers really don't get along. Of course, it would be self-inflicted so take that for what it's worth... Not that it would be a problem because after the shitfuckery they pulled with CD Projekt, Bandai-Namco will never see a single cent from me.

I can't imagine how the "lose" options where you spend money and a lot of aggrivation is caused are any better than or equal to the one you don't.

They're the sort of people who, even after the level of 'quality' for the Dark Souls PC port was made public, were saying shit like "you have to buy this game and show Bandai-Namco that there's a viable PC market for their games so next time they'll make a proper effort".

But there are a lot of gamers who describe these games as broken and unplayable. They then go and demand more, buy them, and act all surprised. I'm pretty sure I'd rather have no game than pay for a game if it's likely to be a broken mess.

Yeah it's not like that isn't a common phenomenon all across gaming... people pissing and moaning about some game for months on end, then when the sequel is announced, they get all excited about it. Far too many gamers fall for the same routine of hype and shiny things.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

What they wanted, and what is expected is a game that is at least function.

The drama queening was part of the problem.

For Dark Souls to be functional on PC (btw, this coming from someone who fucking loves Dark Souls) you need at least 1, possibly several community made edits, probably some alternate control method, like a gamepad, and a somewhat up to date PC seeing as there's no graphics settings that even matter performance wise.

So for a game designed around a controller, you needed a controller?

Let me alert the presses. And while we're at it, I bet those bastards at Harmonix expect you to have a microphone to sing along with their games!

The community edits stuff is hyperbole. People were playing it fine without them. PC gamers are just so spoiled they write anything below 60 FPS unplayable. People complained it was inferior to the PS3 version, which was false. People complained that it didn't meet their expectations, when their expectations were ridiculous.

They begged for the game. They threw a tantrum every single step of the way. Then they got it and they threw another tantrum. Surprise.

And you know what? It sold phenomenally anyway.

Sometimes you don't get what you want, but you usually get what you deserve. And Dark Souls is more or less why PC gamers get shitty ports.

GTAV will sell phenomenally, too. Even if it runs at 5 FPS, doesn't support fullscreen mode, and requires two gamepads, a VR headset, and a spiked chastity belt. Spiked inward, for the record.

If you're a PC gamer, allow me to ask you why you do this to yourself. Not just Dark Souls, but let's start there. Why beg and scream for a game intended for filthy console peasants, then complain it plays like a console game? Why did so many people buy GTAV at launch? Why does anyone expect different from what they get when they engender that EXACT system?

Decent resolution support and a control system that employs even a little consideration aren't exactly lofty expectations. When you consider the wealth of games that function just fine on both consoles and PC, it's obvious that making M+K and a gamepad both viable options is completely doable, they just didn't do it. The resolution fix was cranked out by a fan in no time flat... so I call bullshit on that.

If they can put zero effort into ports and still have them sell "phenomenally", and have a community of fans who will fix their sloppy work for them... then they have no right to complain. Infact, they should be very happy about it. It's a sweet deal. What's the downside? That some people wrote unflattering things about their shoddy port in some stupid internet forum that they can easily ignore? I'm sure the money talks louder.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Who cares?

Saints row the third is already better than GTA V will ever be.

And Max Payne 2 is the greatest game ever made, so we have no need of anything new ever again.

Think of the money we'll save!!

 

[mad825]

Yea...Rockstar calls you a fucking idiot for buying GTA IV within the manual. Fuck them.

 

[Rattler5150]

I have an alternate point of view,

I propose an Anti-petition. Frankly I am tired of Rockstar's nonsense treating pc gamers as the unwanted red headed stepchildren of the gaming world. We have been forced to wait, and to deal with titles being released on consoles with no pc release (liberty city stories for instance)

In light of this further insult to pc gamers, I am never going to buy another rockstar title,,,ever.

sorry rockstar, you lost a longtime customer.

 

[deviltry]

I hope not, I was really bored reading gaming forums when GTA4 launched, because every second thread was "halp gta4 lags" and "omg gta4 sux lagging pos"...

 

[Rawne1980]

After the state of GTA4 ... no spankyou.

Yeah if only they released several performance enhancing and stability patches for... oh wait a minute they did.

I was, almost, tempted with Far Cry 3 but then the whole Steam debacle reminded me why I avoid Ubisoft like i'd avoid masturbating with a right hand riddled with leprosy.

Yeah it really bugged me, I was gagging at the bit to buy Far Cry 3, to have it attached to a service that is slow, buggy, riddled with nonsense and goes tits up when ever their is a hint of a sale. I really feel like a dick for downloading Uplay, buying it direct from their store and then having to run the game through a service that loads in seconds and actually seems to work. I really wanted that opportunity to have to run Steam that chance to wait a minute and a half while it logs on, the opportunity to wait while it runs it's back ground server checks, the opportunity to wait while it decides if my games are available to play just now and then for it then run Uplay as well but I just had to opt for running Uplay by itself damn me for choosing a fast, loads in seconds and does the job service when Steam was just sitting right there as an alternative.... damn I feel awful!

Well i'm a month late but the above numpty quoted me without actually quoting me so I didn't get chance to reply.

Plus it was necro'd already so I don't feel bad.

Those were cute comments .. really they were.

"Performance enhancing, stability fixing patches" that didn't get rid of a lot of the bugs.

So I had to wait for them to get round to fixing an absolutely terrible port but they didn't fix a lot of the problems.

Yep, that would be well worth the money .... oh wait, no it wouldn't.

As for Uplay and your gushing over it.

Yes it loads in seconds .... if it can connect to the servers .... which it has a terrible habit of not being able to.

Servers constantly go offline, constantly crash and are about as stable as Greece's economy. Of course, as I said already, that's if you can connect to the servers. Considering the complaints all over the internet and amongst everyone I know who bought Far Cry 3 and Assassins Creed 3 is they can't connect to the Uplay servers at all. Your attempt at sarcasm not only falls flat but makes me point and laugh in your general direction.

Also, it wasn't because it wasn't being sold on Steam that put me off (i've said it time and time again I don't buy new games on Steam) it was the fact they put it off in an attempt to make people buy it from Uplay instead of giving folk a varied choice.

But, good job on your comeback. It really put me in my place .... honest.

 

[Doom972]

It has been like that since GTA 3. They don't announce it right away but end up releasing a PC port some time after the console release. I don't know why they do that, but I'm not in a hurry to get it anyway. I'll save my money for Saint's Row 4.