Guild Wars 2: Death and No Holy Trinity...

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Korten12

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From: http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/combat/healing-death/

some quotes from the article.

Rather than being presented with immediate failure, when a player loses all of their health in Guild Wars 2, they are put into "downed mode." In this mode, the player has a number of downed skills they can use to target enemies and fight for a chance to survive. A downed player can still be attacked, which will send them into a defeated state, leaving them to either wait for an ally to resurrect them or to resurrect at a waypoint.
Some professions will have special skills that will instantly rally a fallen ally. For example, when a warrior uses "I Will Avenge You," and then kills an enemy nearby his fallen allies, his allies will rally. While you are downed or defeated, any other player can come to you and interact with you to bring you back to life. We call this "reviving," and everyone, regardless of profession, can do this starting at Level 1.
Simple systems like this, along with cross-profession combos, and the dedicated healing skill slot, help free players from the MMORPG shackles, and let us break the mold even more. We're making players more self sufficient, but are also providing appealing ways for them to effortlessly work together to create a more inspired moment-to-moment experience. That is why Guild Wars 2 does not have a dedicated healing class.
Support players want to be able to say, "Remember that one time when I saved you from certain death?" They want to stand in the line of fire and block attacks. They want to surround their allies with a swirling dome of air that keeps enemy projectiles from passing through it. It's not about clicking on a health bar and watching it go up, it's about being there for your friends when they need you.
We keep hearing other MMO developers espousing the "holy trinity" of DPS/ heal/tank with such reverence, as if this is the most entertaining combat they have ever played. Frankly, we don't like sitting around spamming "looking for healer" to global chat. That feels an awful lot like preparing to have fun instead of having fun.
Ultimately, DPS/heal/tank just didn't cut it in our book...er, game. Our players demand more from Guild Wars 2 and we intend to deliver on that demand instead of delivering more of the same. Not only is the trinity very formulaic, but it leaves out a lot of gameplay elements that make many other games so much fun. Instead, we break these trinity categories down into a cooler, more versatile system...
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I really like how this game is going away from the traditional stuff, not trying to hate on ToR, but they confirmed the Holy trinity... they shakled there own game...
 

Googenstien

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Guild Wars devs really think outside the box and I am looking forward to GW2. But, this still is hardly a fresh idea in the MMO world
 

Korten12

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poiumty said:
I LOVE THESE GUYS. This is what i've been suggesting to my friends that Bioware should do with The Old Republic, but they refuse to tap the potential of that game.

The revive thing isn't new to games, but it sounds awesome in an MMO. The "no dedicated healing classes" might just make me wanna start another MMO.

It's not about clicking on a health bar and watching it go up, it's about being there for your friends when they need you.
God damn, this guy's speaking my language.
yeah the old republic had soo much potential but from what they show, not a single thing besdies the choices on quests and stuff is new. the advanced classes? thats already been in mmo's for like awhile now...
 

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I'd been planning on playing Guild Wars 2 ever since I first learned they were making it, as Guild Wars is pretty much the only MMO that I play (though I've given Dungeons & Dragons Online a shot now that it's gone free to play), but damn are these missives from the developers enticing. I just get more and more excited to play this with ever bit of news I read.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
I'd been planning on playing Guild Wars 2 ever since I first learned they were making it, as Guild Wars is pretty much the only MMO that I play (though I've given Dungeons & Dragons Online a shot now that it's gone free to play), but damn are these missives from the developers enticing. I just get more and more excited to play this with ever bit of news I read.
yeah... I really can't wait... :( I really wish it was out but not rushed or anything... atleast next gaming convention I believe we will see gameplay, we have seen a bit since the skills but not the UI or anything.
 

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Just watch, they make some boss that spams Searing flames, and you will wish you would have gotten a healer class covering your asses.

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Fucking Searing flames ele bosses, i hate them so much.
 

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I saw a thread about this topic already, but as already stated...

TsunamiWombat said:
But I LIKE playing a dedicated healer...
...but if they manage to still give me a class that can allow me to support my teammates to the degree that a "normal" healer could, and hopefully make it more fun, I can't say I'd be opposed to the idea.
 

Korten12

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Benefactor said:
I saw a thread about this topic already, but as already stated...

TsunamiWombat said:
But I LIKE playing a dedicated healer...
...but if they manage to still give me a class that can allow me to support my teammates to the degree that a "normal" healer could, and hopefully make it more fun, I can't say I'd be opposed to the idea.
suprisingly I made this topic like 5 hours eariler then the other one. :p