Guild Wars 2 vs. TERA Online
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I would say GW2 but then at least one of the reasons I stopped playing Tera would be what you would like.
GW2
+Gorgeous maps
+I can play a female character I actually like rather than despising how they move and look.
+more interesting races to chose from and they didn't find an excuse to make the Charr have no woman or the woman just have cat ears and a tail.
+Less "go here and kill 50 of that for some reason", especially when you get to level 80 zones which are built around events.
+ better story and lore? I never paid any attention to Tera's one
+ Less gear grind than most MMOs. I don't like that they added ascended gear but that is suppose to be the last one they ever add and they did make items of it's tier account bound.
+those that talk are relatively nice. If you ask a question someone will probably answer it.
-no open world PvP servers but I suppose it wouldn't really work with the rest of the game
-they have a bad habit of ditching content though they are supposedly going to revamp WvW at some point.
-open world PvE is easy which makes the combat boring, especially since unless you are an Ele you don't have a complex skill rotation (in fact for some weapons you will lower your DPS using skills). Many of your skills are suppose to be situational. Dungeons devolved into just stacking though fractals and the new raids are better. The new maps are harder than core so it is getting better.
-it is particularly noticeable in scheduled events and the SW map that a lot of the players are lazy and only do the minimum needed to tag the event for rewards. You can have a commander telling them exactly what they need to do to make the fight go smoothly and they won't do it. They will just auto attack and if they die wait someone to rez them. Since events scale with the number of people this is a problem, particularly for achievements.
-some maps are impossible to do much in unless they have enough people and are organised.
-unskipable talking segments and they tend to lock achievements until you have done the story segment once so you have to repeat it.
-the new traitlines from the paid expansion are for the most part much more powerful than the base which is a bit of a problem for PvP if you don't buy it.
Tera
+better combat
+open world PvP (if you want it)
-Better combat is destroyed by grind.
-aesthetic ranges from indifferent to strong dislike.
-map chat seemed nastier but that might have been my server.
GW2
+Gorgeous maps
+I can play a female character I actually like rather than despising how they move and look.
+more interesting races to chose from and they didn't find an excuse to make the Charr have no woman or the woman just have cat ears and a tail.
+Less "go here and kill 50 of that for some reason", especially when you get to level 80 zones which are built around events.
+ better story and lore? I never paid any attention to Tera's one
+ Less gear grind than most MMOs. I don't like that they added ascended gear but that is suppose to be the last one they ever add and they did make items of it's tier account bound.
+those that talk are relatively nice. If you ask a question someone will probably answer it.
-no open world PvP servers but I suppose it wouldn't really work with the rest of the game
-they have a bad habit of ditching content though they are supposedly going to revamp WvW at some point.
-open world PvE is easy which makes the combat boring, especially since unless you are an Ele you don't have a complex skill rotation (in fact for some weapons you will lower your DPS using skills). Many of your skills are suppose to be situational. Dungeons devolved into just stacking though fractals and the new raids are better. The new maps are harder than core so it is getting better.
-it is particularly noticeable in scheduled events and the SW map that a lot of the players are lazy and only do the minimum needed to tag the event for rewards. You can have a commander telling them exactly what they need to do to make the fight go smoothly and they won't do it. They will just auto attack and if they die wait someone to rez them. Since events scale with the number of people this is a problem, particularly for achievements.
-some maps are impossible to do much in unless they have enough people and are organised.
-unskipable talking segments and they tend to lock achievements until you have done the story segment once so you have to repeat it.
-the new traitlines from the paid expansion are for the most part much more powerful than the base which is a bit of a problem for PvP if you don't buy it.
Tera
+better combat
+open world PvP (if you want it)
-Better combat is destroyed by grind.
-aesthetic ranges from indifferent to strong dislike.
-map chat seemed nastier but that might have been my server.
I've tried both and, ultimately, got a lot more satisfaction out of Tera.
With that said? I haven't really played either all that long...highest level character in Tera is only like 40, so I can't really comment on the end game or anything.
Gameplay was just more engaging in Tera and I enjoyed the aesthetic to a greater extent than GW2, but the story is so God damned uninteresting that I kinda only ever hop on once in a blue moon.
Have you tried Blade and Soul yet? It's kind of a combination between the two in some respects.
[small]Also, jiggle physics.[/small]
With that said? I haven't really played either all that long...highest level character in Tera is only like 40, so I can't really comment on the end game or anything.
Gameplay was just more engaging in Tera and I enjoyed the aesthetic to a greater extent than GW2, but the story is so God damned uninteresting that I kinda only ever hop on once in a blue moon.
Have you tried Blade and Soul yet? It's kind of a combination between the two in some respects.
[small]Also, jiggle physics.[/small]
Oh, I just wasn't sure how my reputation as a member of pure innocent content and tastes and certainly no perversions at all could ever be used in reference to a game preference.Zykon TheLich said:
*cough*
I would say TERA just because I despised the questing in GW2 to the point where I quit after a very short time. I get the frustration with so many RPG quests being "bring me 5 bear asses" but I don't see how having your entire starting area consist of menial tasks and glacial slogs that take forever because they depend on multiple people participating is any better. That said I haven't played since launch week so it may very well have improved since then.
That's the fun thing about Tera though.Zykon TheLich said:Why of course, I am sure there is no possible way you could have concluded that your reputation on the forums could in any way be linked to a game whereParagon Fury said:
passes for armour.
Equal opportunity embonerment.
Between all the costumes and armor sets, you can basically walk around naked as pretty much every race.
It's glorious.
I love games with equal opportunity hotness.LostGryphon said:That's the fun thing about Tera though.Zykon TheLich said:Why of course, I am sure there is no possible way you could have concluded that your reputation on the forums could in any way be linked to a game whereParagon Fury said:
passes for armour.
Equal opportunity embonerment.
Between all the costumes and armor sets, you can basically walk around naked as pretty much every race.
It's glorious.
OT: Not much into MMO's myself, so character design and costume design tends to be the overwhelming consideration for me when I comes to MMO's. I would go with Tera and make it your mission to collect all the prettiest and sexiest outfits in the world.
You can like the aesthetic but don't even try to pretend Tera is equal opportunity.LostGryphon said:That's the fun thing about Tera though.Zykon TheLich said:Why of course, I am sure there is no possible way you could have concluded that your reputation on the forums could in any way be linked to a game whereParagon Fury said:
passes for armour.
Equal opportunity embonerment.
Between all the costumes and armor sets, you can basically walk around naked as pretty much every race.
It's glorious.
There is a massive difference between being able to play a "sexy" guy if you want to (but with less suggestive and retarded animations and not to the point where they're offering you their bare backside or end up being posed to look like they fucking each other) and having damn near no other option. Even the Aman have pseudo heels and ass crack armour.
That's ok. I don't like it but I don't have problem with Tera specifically. I just get annoyed at it being touted as equal all the time when it really isn't.Zykon TheLich said:
I'm disappointed that the aesthetic (and grind) killed the game for me because I like the way the warrior class plays.
Join a hundred other people and walk while snared toward a giant ice dragon until you die, chipping it to death over 45 minutes, then forget how eye-wateringly boring that experience was and call it "pretty awesome" on a forum in 2016.sanquin said:
OP, the world bosses in GW2 are virtually all garbage-- and so are the structured, instanced PvE encounters. The developers had absolutely no notion of how to make an encounter with interesting, tight mechanics, which is why in vanilla GW2 (at least when I left) there simply aren't any.
Go TERA. It'll take you about 7 days to level if you know/still remember the routes and how to group quests. The PvP is better (no standing inside of other people during combat because your engine is worse than your prequel's). The instanced PvE is miles and miles and miles better, no question.
And come the endgame, what else are you doing, besides those two things and playing dress up?
And dress up with
Elin
I haven't played Tera, but the main draw of GW2 has always been that it's a much more casual experience. Heart of Thorns added harder content and raids, so the lack of end game isn't as huge a thing anymore. You list grinding as a con in GW2, but I'd honestly say that it doesn't have to exist if you don't want it to. Sure, you can grind the same events over and over which provide the most gold, but in the end game, the only thing you need gold for is fashion. In fact, the game is often called Fashion Wars 2. There are better stat sets that you can go for in the end game, but you don't need them since they only provide maybe a 10% stat bonus. Having the best stats for raids is nice, but the dps checks aren't tight enough for it to matter. There's just less room for error.
For PvP, if you're planning on trying out the game as F2P first, I'd honestly just avoid this. HoT introduced some major power creep so the elite specs are much better than the vanilla specs. PvP is quite a bit of fun, but it wouldn't be if you're not on equal footing.
More on endgame since this is something people tend to bring up, what do you actually look for in endgame? Grinding for better and better loot with slightly better stats each time? You won't find that. You will find high level zones and content though. The entire recent expansion is basically all end game, though I wouldn't say it was worth the 50 bucks they charged for it.
The one thing you didn't mention is exploration. I tell everyone to take their time when going through the game the first time because the open world is one of the best. Many of the zones are absolutely gorgeous and they also have lots of hidden areas which usually lead to jumping puzzles.
You mentioned story being interesting, but honestly, I'd disagree. Most of the characters are bland and the ending is pretty anticlimactic. HoT had some better characters, but the story was FAR too short and was honestly just stupid. The lore of GW2 is very interesting, but it's not presented very well in game and really isn't utilized all that well by the writers. I'd say that this is probably the weakest part of the game.
Also, for characters looking the same.... what? I guess some of the generic armors that you see early game look fairly similar and there are a lot of trench coats for medium armor, but dungeon armors all have pretty distinct looks and there are quite a few other sets besides those.
Another thing you'll see a lot of people praise in GW2 are the world bosses. These are definitely pretty cool the first couple times you fight them, but they're honestly some of the easiest content in the game. Most of them don't involve very much in the way of mechanics. I rarely do these now. Instead of more world bosses, Heart of Thorns introduced more map-wide meta events. These are more mechanically involving and require quite a bit more coordination from the map. Most people have them down pretty well now though, so they don't fail nearly as often as they did during the first month of launch.
To be honest, I'm not sure where you got the breakdown of +/- for GW2, but as someone who's put about 600 hours into the game, it doesn't seem all that accurate. Although, I suppose it can't be that inaccurate since, for good reason, World vs. World wasn't even mentioned in your overview. A part of the game that was once considered to be a major selling point has been so thoroughly neglected by the devs that it's basically reached meme status in the community.
For PvP, if you're planning on trying out the game as F2P first, I'd honestly just avoid this. HoT introduced some major power creep so the elite specs are much better than the vanilla specs. PvP is quite a bit of fun, but it wouldn't be if you're not on equal footing.
More on endgame since this is something people tend to bring up, what do you actually look for in endgame? Grinding for better and better loot with slightly better stats each time? You won't find that. You will find high level zones and content though. The entire recent expansion is basically all end game, though I wouldn't say it was worth the 50 bucks they charged for it.
The one thing you didn't mention is exploration. I tell everyone to take their time when going through the game the first time because the open world is one of the best. Many of the zones are absolutely gorgeous and they also have lots of hidden areas which usually lead to jumping puzzles.
You mentioned story being interesting, but honestly, I'd disagree. Most of the characters are bland and the ending is pretty anticlimactic. HoT had some better characters, but the story was FAR too short and was honestly just stupid. The lore of GW2 is very interesting, but it's not presented very well in game and really isn't utilized all that well by the writers. I'd say that this is probably the weakest part of the game.
Also, for characters looking the same.... what? I guess some of the generic armors that you see early game look fairly similar and there are a lot of trench coats for medium armor, but dungeon armors all have pretty distinct looks and there are quite a few other sets besides those.
Another thing you'll see a lot of people praise in GW2 are the world bosses. These are definitely pretty cool the first couple times you fight them, but they're honestly some of the easiest content in the game. Most of them don't involve very much in the way of mechanics. I rarely do these now. Instead of more world bosses, Heart of Thorns introduced more map-wide meta events. These are more mechanically involving and require quite a bit more coordination from the map. Most people have them down pretty well now though, so they don't fail nearly as often as they did during the first month of launch.
To be honest, I'm not sure where you got the breakdown of +/- for GW2, but as someone who's put about 600 hours into the game, it doesn't seem all that accurate. Although, I suppose it can't be that inaccurate since, for good reason, World vs. World wasn't even mentioned in your overview. A part of the game that was once considered to be a major selling point has been so thoroughly neglected by the devs that it's basically reached meme status in the community.
When did you leave? They've redesigned several of the old world bosses (such as Tequatl the Sunless (sept 2013) and The Shatterer (Jan 2016)) to require a great deal more cooperation, communication, and adapting tactics; they're unwinnable if you zerg them.Candidus said:
In their original state, they were pretty poor, I'll agree, but not after the redesign. The Tri-Wurm & Mordrem Vinewrath are also tight & well-designed.
Actually right now I have about 30 such scrolls from quests/drops, I can teleport to any non-discovered teleport destination already and I even have a book for one week (also from drop/quest) with which I can instantly teleport to every village on the world.Zykon TheLich said:
So ... that's definitely not true anymore for TERA
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Blade and Soul has cool combat and funny questing (and leads even better from place to playe than others). It runs slightly crap though, and you have not really enough inventory space. And it is full asian, not westernized, which means that many westerners are alienated by it.StardustCrusader said:
So the scrolls are still drops yes? I have 7 safe haven scrolls, if I ever actually used them to TP when I wanted I'd have none. Has the drop rate increased a lot? Because it didn't seem to have done so for me.the silence said:
How do you teleport to any non discovered teleport destination already? I played for a few hours last night and still could only teleport as I said. If I could do what you say my opinion of TERA would certainly get a bit better.[Edit:Ok, I was mistaken, I was fooled by the way the maps aren't particularly open and it felt liek there should have been more locations than there actually were. Only being able to TP from the central town is still a ball ache though]
As for the book, that's great (for a week) if you've got that drop I suppose.