Guillermo del Toro: Studios "Not Interested" in Hellboy III

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Aw man... and we're in a middle of a "comic book movie boom" at the moment... I mean, if the sequel to Sin City can exist, so should Hellboy III, I say...

*sighs* I must REALLY not get how movies work these days...
 

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Give it time, he may come round to it at some point. It may take a few years though.
 

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Oh come on. Come the fuck on. I loved both Hellboy movies. And the second one felt like a second in a trilogy all the way through. It needs a proper ending.
 

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dharmaBum0 said:
"Hellboy made a lot of money. Hellboy 2 made a lot of money. But we don't understand how Hellboy 3 would make a lot of money."
Because it didn't make a lot of money at the movies, which is where they want it to make money so that the film makes its budget back and then some as soon as possible, as opposed to wait for months for it to come out on DVD and then they get the money back. Basically, it wasn't making enough money fast enough for the studios. Because when a movie does well on DVD/Blu-Ray/Digital, a fair amount of that money goes directly into distribution. That includes the manufactures of the discs and case covers, shipping, servers for the digital ones (Although this is nowhere near as expensive as physical copies), the cut that the stores get for selling them, etc. Not as much as the movie industry seems to tell us makes it back to them. Although a lot more gets back to them as they want us to know. But if it makes a profit at the movies, a piss poor amount ends up not going to them.
 

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Ron Perlman isn't getting any younger people! Its's liek a cruel joke of the universe, wankers never die (Justin Bieber) and awesome folks seem to kick the bucket way too soon (Heath Ledger). This is like watching a movie series that gets canned three quarter's of the way through (Young Justice anyone), I like the set pieces but the lack of closure is painful.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
dharmaBum0 said:
"Hellboy made a lot of money. Hellboy 2 made a lot of money. But we don't understand how Hellboy 3 would make a lot of money."
I think what he meant was that the first 2 movies only made a lot of profit through DVD sales, and the DVD market isn't exactly thriving these days, so if he made a third movie he would recoup the money at best.
Thats the odd thing, the physical media side of movie distribution isn't doing so well but the digital side of it has caught up. With so many places and platforms to buy movies with much greater convenience sales to the customer and to licensing deals to subscription based service providers sales might even exceed the old physical formats in the future.
 

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Goddamnit Hollywood!

We need Hellboy III! As someone said, get a Kickstarter going! I would definitely chip in. Like a lot.
 

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i guess im in the minority here who didnt like the hellboy movies. so i cant say i care if the third one is coming or not.
but the view of hollywood is beyond my comprehension why they dont want to support the movie. did they forget pacific rim? looks like it.
 

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I would have seen it, and I haven't seen a movie in theaters in over 3 years.

I also would have seen At the Mountains of Madness, but that too will not be made.
The main barrier in that is that del Toro was pushing for an R rating, and studios are hesitant to spend over $100 million on an R rated movie. He's said recently that he might've been wrong in that regard, and that he could get it down to PG-13, and he's mentioned that a lot of studios have showed interest in it, so let's see where that goes.
 

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See, this...this business bullshit is why many directors and musicians invest in their own studios. Artists need to run these things. Profit obsessed studios are stifling the collective creativity! Gaaaarrrrgh it's so fustrating i really want to punch a CEO in the eyes!!!!
 

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See, this...this business bullshit is why many directors and musicians invest in their own studios. Artists need to run these things. Profit obsessed studios are stifling the collective creativity! Gaaaarrrrgh it's so frustrating I really want to punch a CEO in the eyes!!!!
Yeah that worked out so well the Lucas solo efforts on star wars.
 

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albino boo said:
Xsjadoblayde said:
See, this...this business bullshit is why many directors and musicians invest in their own studios. Artists need to run these things. Profit obsessed studios are stifling the collective creativity! Gaaaarrrrgh it's so frustrating I really want to punch a CEO in the eyes!!!!
Yeah that worked out so well the Lucas solo efforts on star wars.

Well with some guidance at least. I would prefer not to remember the Lucas clusterfuck. That was just not meant to be. Though i have never been truly invested in it, so it is a biased viewpoint.
 

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I've said before that I think the Hellboy movies are terrible adaptations of the source material. But they're still great movies in their own right and it's a shame that we're not likely to be getting a trilogy out of it.

I'm starting to see Del Toro as a new generation Terry Gilliam.

The guy has a clear vision, a vocal and loyal fan base, a proven track record of mostly profitable films in what are typically niche market genres and he still has to fight tooth and nail to get his movies made.

It's a low down damn dirty shame.
 

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I find it weird that even after Pacific Rim made over $400 million even without an established franchise (and untold millions in merchandise), studios are hesitant to give del Toro a high-budget movie. Pacific Rim was a way bigger risk than Hellboy 3, and it was made on a $190 million budget.
 

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acillies45 said:
Mahorfeus said:
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acillies45 said:
They should put a kickstarter together. Not sure if it would make enough, but who knows? If enough fans wanted it, I bet it could happen.
This man gets it. Hell, kickstart a portion of the movie, which saves the studios a bit of money, and then they front the rest. They still get back what they put in, and Del Toro doesn't have to lose out on his beautiful creations.
As amazing as that would be, considering that the last movie's budget pushed past 80 million, I highly doubt that even a record-breaking Kickstarter would produce nearly enough money to well, kickstart much of anything.
Well even if it didn't completely pay for it, it may show the studios that there is a big interest in it. And if not, nothing lost.
There are a few big problems. Mainly, they'd need to have the rights holders firmly on board, and they might be happier sit on the property til they see a hole in the market they think Hellboy can better film. For a big budget action film, studios dont care that there are die hard fans (the main people who'd back a Kickstarter). Its all about the mass market