Guns and Starbucks: why?

[brodie21]

I found this article where people are carrying their guns into starbucks after the chain refused to ban guns in the stores. it has asked not to be the center of a new debate, but that didnt work.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20100303/US.Starbucks.Guns/

why do people make such a big deal about where people take their guns?

edit: and why wouldnt starbucks allow patrons to take guns into their stores? it serves as a deterrent because people are less likely to try to rob a place when they see five people walking around with hand cannons strapped to their waists

 

[Lt. Dragunov]

The only one's who do complain are the gun owners who make love to thier gun, honestly who do you exspect to rob you at a starbucks

 

[SturmDolch]

Maybe this will get them to finally buy my gunpowder-coffee mix that I've been trying to sell them for years... Fraggaccinos for everyone!

The only one's who do complain are the gun owners who make love to thier gun, honestly who do you exspect to rob you at a starbucks

I'd think its one of the easiest places to get robbed, with all the starving wanna-be artists hanging out there.

"GIVE ME $6 FOR A STRAWBERRY FLOOPERATTE CAPPICOLOCINO!"

(By the way, I do like the coffee there)

 

[Dudemeister]

People seem to confuse the right to own guns with the absolute need to bring a gun with them to inappropriate social situations such as the local coffee house or an angry political rally.

 

[Timotei]

Smart move on the company's side. It keeps them out of the line of fire and they get to keep a portion of their customer base.

On the other hand it depends on what exactly they are bringing in that may be a cause for concern. Someone with a pistol is more likely to rob a place than someone with a dear rifle.

 

[wooty]

Just goes to show that Starbucks really is run by Dr Evil if this is allowed

Muhuuhuhuhahahahahaa....muhuhahahahaha...muhuhuhahah....muhuha...muu

(sorry, couldnt resist that)

 

[atalanta]

"They're putting their workers in harm's way by allowing people to carry guns into their stores, especially open carry," Malte said.

? Uh, Seattle's got concealed carry. AFAIK you can't really do a whole lot about people taking their guns into Starbucks, so long as they're properly licensed.

People seem to confuse the right to own guns with the absolute need to bring a gun with them to inappropriate social situations such as the local coffee house or an angry political rally.

Mildly confusing quotes aside, this. FFS, people, part of being a responsible gun owner is knowing when to not make a whole big deal out of it.

(man, this is kind of embarrassing. Shows how much I pay attention to local politics now that I"m not technically local.)

 

[Pimppeter2]

I bring my guns every where.

How else would I be able to tell people where the beach is?

*Flexes*

 

[dibblywibbles]

Wait I can bring a gun into starbucks? oh wait I'm canadian, they don't let us do anything with guns. they literally have to be locked up and have the ammo locked in a separate place. did I mention if someone steals your gun and shoots someone you're responsible? we should have the right to arm bears too! or is it bear arms? I get them confused.

 

[Berethond]

People seem to confuse the right to own guns with the absolute need to bring a gun with them to inappropriate social situations such as the local coffee house or an angry political rally.

It's the right to bear arms. Bear arms.

Meaning carry.
So you should be able to take them anywhere, really.

 

[manaman]

People seem to confuse the right to own guns with the absolute need to bring a gun with them to inappropriate social situations such as the local coffee house or an angry political rally.

It's the right to keep and bear arms. Not the right to keep arms. The second amendment to the US constitution grants this in what would seem to be to be fairly clear words.
Edit:

People seem to confuse the right to own guns with the absolute need to bring a gun with them to inappropriate social situations such as the local coffee house or an angry political rally.

It's the right to bear arms. Bear arms.

Meaning carry.
So you should be able to take them anywhere, really.

Ninja'd. That's what I get for taking so long to type up a reply.

Smart move on the company's side. It keeps them out of the line of fire and they get to keep a portion of their customer base.

On the other hand it depends on what exactly they are bringing in that may be a cause for concern. Someone with a pistol is more likely to rob a place than someone with a dear rifle.

Who carries a deer rifle around. I guess if you actually intended to day dear rifle then I can see a rifle they like so much they just couldn't stand leaving it somewhere. This has more to do with concealed carry, which I think properly licensed people should never have to worry about. Aside from federally owned locations, banks, and other secured areas I don't think a person should be restricted from concealed carry. Even then open carry restrictions are pointless in the US, as if a person who is carrying illegally is going to bother reading the sign out front that says guns are banned and just wander off to the next spot on his list of places to rob.

Wait I can bring a gun into starbucks? oh wait I'm canadian, they don't let us do anything with guns. they literally have to be locked up and have the ammo locked in a separate place. did I mention if someone steals your gun and shoots someone you're responsible? we should have the right to arm bears too! or is it bear arms? I get them confused.

You can be held responsible here as well. If I left my gun sitting around somewhere and a kid picks it up and shoots someone who do you think is responsible in that situation. Of course the parent is responsible should have taught them kids some manners.

No really I would be responsible there is no reason I should be so lax as that when I am carrying a weapon that can so easily kill.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Why would gun owners carry their little toys into a coffee shop? They are polar opposites really. I mean, people buy guns to compensate for, uhm, various bodily deficiencies (don't deny it, you know it's true ), whereas coffee shops target the more elite, educated, and sophisticated segment of the population. Ok, maybe not Starbucks, with their laughable mix of beverage names that don't mean anything when translated into english (btw, did you know that a latte is just steamed milk in non-starbucksese?).

 

[Dudemeister]

People seem to confuse the right to own guns with the absolute need to bring a gun with them to inappropriate social situations such as the local coffee house or an angry political rally.

It's the right to bear arms. Bear arms.

Meaning carry.
So you should be able to take them anywhere, really.

Well that's what I meant. Sure, the right to take them anywhere exists but people should still exercise some responsibility in where they take their guns.

 

[manaman]

Why would gun owners carry their little toys into a coffee shop? They are polar opposites really. I mean, people buy guns to compensate for, uhm, various bodily deficiencies (don't deny it, you know it's true ), whereas coffee shops target the more elite, educated, and sophisticated segment of the population. Ok, maybe not Starbucks, with their laughable mix of beverage names that don't mean anything when translated into english (btw, did you know that a latte is just steamed milk in non-starbucksese?).

That is just rude. Bet you wouldn't be so quick to shout out a stereotype as rude and unfounded as that if you where talking about something race related.

 

[MercenaryCanary]

It's a constitutional right.
You gotta stick with the thing.

EDIT:

People seem to confuse the right to own guns with the absolute need to bring a gun with them to inappropriate social situations such as the local coffee house or an angry political rally.

It's the right to bear arms. Bear arms.

Meaning carry.
So you should be able to take them anywhere, really.

Yep. He pretty much got the money right on the spot.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Why would gun owners carry their little toys into a coffee shop? They are polar opposites really. I mean, people buy guns to compensate for, uhm, various bodily deficiencies (don't deny it, you know it's true ), whereas coffee shops target the more elite, educated, and sophisticated segment of the population. Ok, maybe not Starbucks, with their laughable mix of beverage names that don't mean anything when translated into english (btw, did you know that a latte is just steamed milk in non-starbucksese?).

That is just rude. Bet you wouldn't be so quick to shout out a stereotype as rude and unfounded as that if you where talking about something race related.

Dude, I reside in Texas. If that doesn't warrant my hatred for gun toting rednecks in your view, I suggest you spend a few days down here. Besides, how can it be a stereotype if it's true?

 

[Meggiepants]

Maybe this will get them to finally buy my gunpowder-coffee mix that I've been trying to sell them for years... Fraggaccinos for everyone!

I bring my guns every where.

How else would I be able to tell people where the beach is?

*Flexes*

Ha! To both of you! I have to say, I'm glad I visited the forums tonight. This is way better than whatever is on t.v., that's for sure.

 

[Johnnyallstar]

Wow, might actually give me a reason to go to starbucks. I appreciate it whenever I hear about any company not bending over to convention because some people complain.

Honestly, think about it. Who would rob a donut shop with a dozen armed policemen? Or rob a gun shop? Or rob anywhere where there is a suitable chance you'd be shot before you finished making your demand?

 

[The Singularity]

Starbucks just got a ton safer, smart move on their part. Who are the people who would listen if they banned guns? The responsible people who are not robbers. So when you think about robbing Starbucks remember, its just as great of an idea as robbing a gun store. I do not have a concealed carry permit but my family regularly carries firearms with them at all times(Most of them were or are in the army also) they bring them to church, dinner, etc. They might not get attacked anywhere but they might be able to save someone else. My church encourages concealed carry in fact.

 

[manaman]

Why would gun owners carry their little toys into a coffee shop? They are polar opposites really. I mean, people buy guns to compensate for, uhm, various bodily deficiencies (don't deny it, you know it's true ), whereas coffee shops target the more elite, educated, and sophisticated segment of the population. Ok, maybe not Starbucks, with their laughable mix of beverage names that don't mean anything when translated into english (btw, did you know that a latte is just steamed milk in non-starbucksese?).

That is just rude. Bet you wouldn't be so quick to shout out a stereotype as rude and unfounded as that if you where talking about something race related.

Dude, I reside in Texas. If that doesn't warrant my hatred for gun toting rednecks in your view, I suggest you spend a few days down here. Besides, how can it be a stereotype if it's true?

I lived in Texas for seven years. It's a stereotype.

Maybe I was wrong and you would be just as quick to shout out a stereotype as rude as that one in a discussion about race.

Or maybe you just need to get out more and away from whatever town you live in down there in Texas and experience life how it might be elsewhere. I am going to guess that you are not well traveled as the thought that I might have actually been to or lived in Texas never seemed to cross your mind when you made your above statement.