Gut's Drake Sword

[DarklordKyo]

I'm playing Dark Souls, and I'm specifically doing a Guts Run (a run through that is meant to emulate Guts from most of the manga BERSERK, no helmet, no shield, only wield weapon with both hands, no ranged weapons except for crossbows, no spells except for a fire spell, throwing knives and backup short sword allowed). Is it possible for me to get the Drake Sword as a Guts character? (the Drake Sword is a weapon you get by shooting the tail of the dragon in Undead Burg enough times).

 

[hazabaza1]

Well you could use the crossbow. That'd work.
Alternatively you could wait on the left side of the bride (facing the bit where the Dragon sits) until he gets angry and jumps onto the bridge to kill you. That'd give you the chance to run behind him and get the tail off but you'll probably die afterwards.

Still, don't know why you'd want to. It's kind of shitty and not really a "Guts"-y weapon. I'd go for the Greatsword you get with the rest of the Black Iron set but whatevs.

 

[shrekfan246]

I don't remember if the crossbow allows manual aiming or not. If it does, then it just depends on how good you are at shooting, same as a normal bow. If it doesn't, then probably not. Not easily, at least.

As a side note, that sounds like it would be difficult as hell, considering blocking while holding a weapon in two hands blocks significantly less damage and is significantly easier to break... I hope you're good at dodging/parrying!

 

[ThePuzzldPirate]

you will have to cut off it's tail the old fashion way which will be harder. I would skip the dragon sword entirely and get the Claymore in the same area. The closest I think would match his weapon is the blackknight sword but since that requires a little luck. I would go with the Claymore. while the drake sword is OP, I wouldn't advise it pass the Capra Demon as it quickly gets outclassed.

 

[Diablo2000]

I imagine you would be doing a Str run then...

Don't bother with the Drake Sword really, there's no scaling in it so it will get useless pretty fast.

 

[DementedSheep]

Crossbow might work (I didn't use them much, can you manually aim them?) or luring the dragon on to the bridge so you can melee its tail though you'll likely die if you do that. Although really I think you should just skip it as its only powerful at the start anyway. I say get a regular wep and practice parrying.

 

[Kurai Angelo]

Screw the Drake Sword. Go with the Blacksmith Giant Hammer.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

I don't remember if the crossbow allows manual aiming or not. If it does, then it just depends on how good you are at shooting, same as a normal bow. If it doesn't, then probably not. Not easily, at least.

As a side note, that sounds like it would be difficult as hell, considering blocking while holding a weapon in two hands blocks significantly less damage and is significantly easier to break... I hope you're good at dodging/parrying!

It's actually quite easy versus most enemies. Most greatswords and ultra greatswords have crazy reach and gap closing attacks. Not to mention that they kill most things in one or two hits. I killed all four lord souls two-handing the demon great machete pretty easily. Then again, I also had Havel's and got my strength up high enough so I could one hand the machete when I wanted to and use the greatshield of artorias, but that's totally irrelevant.

I'm going to agree with most everybody else here and tell you to just screw the drake sword. You're going to have to get your strength up crazy high crazy fast anyway. May as well use a sword that will scale to it.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Yes, fairly easily. Go up onto the bridge and have the drake kill all the enemies with fire. Then wait just around the wall. After a while it will come down. As soon as you see it start to come off the roof, run to where it will be. During its next attack, which will be directed along the bridge and not at you (who is now behind it), hack away at the tail. The one attack should be plenty of time. If you need to, feel free to use a Gold Pine Resin from the Burg before you run. Since you are a strength build, the Zweihander will do just fine for cutting off the tail. If you have the 16 strength needed for the Drake Sword, you can at least 2-hand the Zweihander.

[sub][sub]Although Guts wouldn't tolerate a Drake Sword when he already has a Zweihander...[/sub][/sub]

 

[DarklordKyo]

In a semi-related note, how powerful is the Zweihander outside of that gamebreaker build with the shock enhancement?, how far will it take me seeing as though I have little intention to getting that build done? (and was my repeatedly going through the graveyard just to get it worth it or not?, considering I haven't even beaten Undead Burg yet).

 

[Windcaler]

Zweihander even without the shock build is one of the better ultra greatswords in the game due to its unique moveset. A regular greatsword (which by definition is still in the ultra greatsword class) might fit a Guts RP build better though (although Ive only seen the anime and never gotten around to reading the manga). The black knight greatsword might also fit well.

I also concur that the drak sword neither fits the style of the character nor is very good for anything past blight town

 

[Gottesstrafe]

If you want the Drake Sword, you could try cutting the tail off with a sword or using the Binoculars/Crossbow trick (also works with spells). The Drake Sword kinda loses its punch though once you get to Anor Londo. If you're just purely going for looks though, then I would think the Stone Greatsword, the Great Lord Greatsword, the Black Knight Greatsword, or the Zweihander fits the image of Gut's sword the best.

Spoiler

Manual Aiming Steps:
1) Make sure the weapon that you want to aim with and the binoculars are hotkeyed
2) Use binoculars and zoom into the target
3) Center the target in the middle of the screen, both vertically and horrizontally
4) Without exiting the binoculars, click the button to fire the weapon

 

[Infernai]

Another person around here aside from me and Shinji is a fan of Berserk?

Awesome!

 

[DarklordKyo]

Another person around here aside from me and Shinji is a fan of Berserk?

Awesome!

Well, I'm kind of a casual fan, I'm only really familiar with the Golden Age arc due to the anime, and I've barely read the manga (though I hope to one of these days). I also hope to get a copy of Sword of the Berserk: Guts's Rage if I ever get a Dreamcast.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

In a semi-related note, how powerful is the Zweihander outside of that gamebreaker build with the shock enhancement?, how far will it take me seeing as though I have little intention to getting that build done? (and was my repeatedly going through the graveyard just to get it worth it or not?, considering I haven't even beaten Undead Burg yet).

It's moveset is basically the best of every ultra greatsword. It definitely helps for learning how to handle the situations you're definitely going to run into because of how easy to use and outright useful it's moveset is.
Edit- Forgot to mention how low the strength requirement is. That is also a huge plus.

And it's also really easy to get if you just run for it. I got it on my first try (it was the first thing I did after getting out of the asylum actually), and I'm honestly not that good at Dark Souls. Just remember to bolt straight for it and you'll be fine. However, it is a bit on the heavy side, but since you aren't using helms anyway I don't imagine it will be too much of a problem.

On a side note, are you excluding the masks as part of that no helm thing? Mask of the child is pretty good for two-handed builds, as is having a grass crest shield strapped to your back.

 

[DarklordKyo]

It's moveset is basically the best of every ultra greatsword. It definitely helps for learning how to handle the situations you're definitely going to run into because of how easy to use and outright useful it's moveset is.
Edit- Forgot to mention how low the strength requirement is. That is also a huge plus.

And it's also really easy to get if you just run for it. I got it on my first try (it was the first thing I did after getting out of the asylum actually), and I'm honestly not that good at Dark Souls. Just remember to bolt straight for it and you'll be fine. However, it is a bit on the heavy side, but since you aren't using helms anyway I don't imagine it will be too much of a problem.

On a side note, are you excluding the masks as part of that no helm thing? Mask of the child is pretty good for two-handed builds, as is having a grass crest shield strapped to your back.

Unfortunately, those masks need to be excluded as well from what I read.

 

[Trollhoffer]

In a semi-related note, how powerful is the Zweihander outside of that gamebreaker build with the shock enhancement?, how far will it take me seeing as though I have little intention to getting that build done? (and was my repeatedly going through the graveyard just to get it worth it or not?, considering I haven't even beaten Undead Burg yet).

The zweihander is very, very useful, but don't be fooled into thinking it's a strength weapon. You don't want more than 27 strength for it, since it's faster when used in two hands (and the 50% strength increase bumps you up to 40 strength, which is the soft cap on damage scaling). In addition, the reach of the zweihander and its excellent stagger damage mean that you can use your attacks as a means of defense.

So for the normal upgrade path for the zweihander, you really want 27 strength and 40 dexterity. In two hands, at +15, this comes out at about 610 damage before defense is taken into account. If you wanted to use it on a different kind of build (such as a faith build), then there's no point in going above 24 strength for the one-handing and the 10 dexterity as a minimum requirement.

So yeah, it's a brilliant weapon. It punishes excessive dodging, breaks guards, staggers easily and delivers a lot of damage. Its only downside is its speed, but with range like that, it's much less of a liability than you think. At least, once you nail managing range.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

It's moveset is basically the best of every ultra greatsword. It definitely helps for learning how to handle the situations you're definitely going to run into because of how easy to use and outright useful it's moveset is.
Edit- Forgot to mention how low the strength requirement is. That is also a huge plus.

And it's also really easy to get if you just run for it. I got it on my first try (it was the first thing I did after getting out of the asylum actually), and I'm honestly not that good at Dark Souls. Just remember to bolt straight for it and you'll be fine. However, it is a bit on the heavy side, but since you aren't using helms anyway I don't imagine it will be too much of a problem.

On a side note, are you excluding the masks as part of that no helm thing? Mask of the child is pretty good for two-handed builds, as is having a grass crest shield strapped to your back.

Unfortunately, those masks need to be excluded as well from what I read.

Too bad. You against having the grass crest shield strapped to your back too? Otherwise you'll probably need a lot of endurance, fast. Two-handers eat up a shit load of stamina.

 

[DarklordKyo]

Too bad. You against having the grass crest shield strapped to your back too? Otherwise you'll probably need a lot of endurance, fast. Two-handers eat up a shit load of stamina.

Unfortunately, the rules of a Guts run include not using shields as well.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Too bad. You against having the grass crest shield strapped to your back too? Otherwise you'll probably need a lot of endurance, fast. Two-handers eat up a shit load of stamina.

Unfortunately, the rules of a Guts run include not using shields as well.

Can't even have one on your back, eh? Well, you'll probably have to get crazy endurance then. The good news is that you can go for heavy armor then. I wore Havel's in my build, but somebody else here may be able to recommend something better suited. I'm honestly not that much of a Dark Souls expert, it just so happens that my last playthrough was a two handed build (it was very, very fun), and I'm definitely not at all familliar with Guts. Apparently Artorias is supposed to be a bit of an homage to him, so you could go for his armor, though it will be a long time until you get it.