Hail Ulfric!!!!!..........??

[JET1971]

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I wasnt complaining, and after posting and on my way back from the store i was thinking of editing and puting "i loved it" instead of funny. because it was truly awesome.... but skeever foot? I never find a foot, but tails....

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I actually like the fact that neither side is a shining example of goodness. It's a nice change from, "This side is bad, this side is good." Although, I must admit it has made it really difficult to decide who to join. However, I've been leaning toward the Imperials.
Last night, I spoke first with a Nord just outside of Ulfric's palace. He told me--as did all non-Nords in the city--about how much of a racist Ulfric is. I was given a quest to clear out some bandits who have been raiding other races in the town, but not the Nords. Because of that, Ulfric leaves them alone, even though they are attacking people who are supposed to be under his care. Not exactly the shining paragon of justice he makes himself out to be. Then I spoke with the man himself.
That settled it. He spent most of the conversation complaining about the Empire doing the EXACT SAME THING that he's been doing to his own people. How he's tired of Nords giving everything, even their lives, for the Empire and seeing nothing in return. Really? You mean like all the workers on the docks? Or the Dark Elves? No, Ulfric would make a horrible ruler of Skyrim. I'm not saying the Empire is all roses, but they are, to me, the lesser of two evils. The Empire at least allows people to live in their lands. Ulfric, by the words of his very own people, would "ship every non Nord out of Skyrim" as his first order of business.

 

[The_Blue_Rider]

I just like Stormcloaks better, even though the empire would be better in the long run.
Still, the Empire is dying, without a Dragonborn emperor and without their god Talos, they've become little more than a shadow of their former selves, If the Empire stays the way it is, the Thalmor will eventually assimilate it, its a guarantee.

Ulfric didnt break any laws by killing Torygg, its clearly stated multiple times that, using an old tradition, Ulfric challenged Torygg to single combat and won the right to become High King.
It does show just how much the Empire has destroyed Nord culture. Ulfrics completely right in wanting his peoples traditions and culture to remain intact, sure he's power hungry, but he's charismatic, and clearly a capable warrior and commander, something that the people of Skyrim need to stand up to the Thalmor. No I dont agree with his racism, but if Skyrim is going to remain Skyrim, he's its best chance

It was an honorable duel, like those fist fights you have... But he used Thu'um on the king, no one SAYS it, but that sounds a bit dishonorable right there, the King cant shout, and so few people know about shouting in the first place, i imagine it was a surprise to everyone there. He shout stunned him and stabbed him, might as well use poison. I gotta disagree with the Horse thing though... Wherever your going, their will be ingredients to harvest and monsters to fight, you'll get someplace faster while harvesting if your not hopping on and off your horse EVERY 15 SECONDS.

What was that last bit about? And how is shouting dishonourable? The ability to shout is considered a great honour, worthy of respect by most Nords, Ulfric was simply the more capable warrior

The horse thing, i found myself getting on and off the horse constantly to farm ingredients or fight a monster, or just using the wagon carriage to get somewhere fast, never have owned a horse on 150 hours of play lol. Great honor ? Anyone can learn how to shout through with training, kind of like magic, which nords disdain with their ignorance. It was a concealed weapon, it wasnt a fair fight, a fight the king didnt have to accept because he had nothing to gain and everything to lose, and he was still young too. Theres no way you can call that fight honorable, he just wanted to show off his power.

Also, where was this honorable warrior in the siege of Windhelm? On his throne, not out with the troops, protecting the city ! That sounds like a bad tradition, reminds me of the Frost Giants tradition to becoming Jarl in Mask of the Betrayer (hilarity)

Torygg still accepted though, and since Shouting is something any Nord can do, unlike other types of magic, its completely fair in a duel.
And I never mentioned anything about horses
And for your last point, it would be very stupid for a general to take part in a battle, theyre the one who are supposed to organize plans of attack and thihnk up strategies etc. Ulfric was doing what anyone who isnt an idiot would do