Half Life 2 is not a good FPS
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If you actually read the blasted thing the author is making the point that Gordon Freeman is "you". That's why he's such a strong character, because you make him one. This is the point that has been repeated by numerous people throughout the thread.Gladion said:
My friends, have you forgotten about what Half-Life represents! This game marked a revolution in the fps genere. Sure compared to modern day greats this game is rather primitive but come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please reconsider your comments and ponder what I have said.
True. Many of the games that are currently better than HL2 are only better because they built on HL2. Not that I'm convinced that there are many games better than HL2.Delta1 said:
... i dont quite get the argument against.
it seems to be the halo vs HL argument again.. i loved hl 1/2 and.. as ashamed as i am to admit it i loved halo 1/2 (never played 3, probably cus im not such a huge fan of breaking benjamin, and that seemed to fit in a lot with.. somthing, probbaly not relevent) but they were 2 compleatly different games, sometimes, you could run out in halo blast the shite out of things then run back and hide, rinse and repeat. no problems there, but i dident spend much time immersing in the general storyline (it was shite, somthing about pillers..yadada). hl2, was FUN! i reapeat FUN to run around doing fuck all, id run up and hit the swings for 20 mins at a time, cus i could chuck bricks at the general populus? propa job! even look at the scenery for god knows how long, and my god, ravenholme did horror better than most horror games do, with a preist with a shotgun! (i think)...
[edit]: i think im drunk... this probably has no bearing to do with anything! ignore...
it seems to be the halo vs HL argument again.. i loved hl 1/2 and.. as ashamed as i am to admit it i loved halo 1/2 (never played 3, probably cus im not such a huge fan of breaking benjamin, and that seemed to fit in a lot with.. somthing, probbaly not relevent) but they were 2 compleatly different games, sometimes, you could run out in halo blast the shite out of things then run back and hide, rinse and repeat. no problems there, but i dident spend much time immersing in the general storyline (it was shite, somthing about pillers..yadada). hl2, was FUN! i reapeat FUN to run around doing fuck all, id run up and hit the swings for 20 mins at a time, cus i could chuck bricks at the general populus? propa job! even look at the scenery for god knows how long, and my god, ravenholme did horror better than most horror games do, with a preist with a shotgun! (i think)...
[edit]: i think im drunk... this probably has no bearing to do with anything! ignore...
I guess all those people who felt HL2 wasnt as great as Halo as a FPS because of the 'weak weapons' tend to forget that unlike in HALO where Master Chief is on the front lines of a war, Gordon has returned to a dystopian future where the Combine is in control of everything and he's part of an underground resistance, which probably means he doesnt have the most badass weaponry available at his immediate disposal just for the hell of it.
They wanted there to be more realism in Half life 2 (sci fi epic storyline aside) and it made Gordon that much more of a bad ass to be kicking ass without a godlike arsenal that could supply a small army strapped to his BACK.
Gordon wasnt a super soldier, he was a scientist thrust into the role of a man who felt he had to take action against a greater evil. His greatest weapon was his MIND.
If you missed that, it says a great deal about the gamer and less about the game.
They wanted there to be more realism in Half life 2 (sci fi epic storyline aside) and it made Gordon that much more of a bad ass to be kicking ass without a godlike arsenal that could supply a small army strapped to his BACK.
Gordon wasnt a super soldier, he was a scientist thrust into the role of a man who felt he had to take action against a greater evil. His greatest weapon was his MIND.
If you missed that, it says a great deal about the gamer and less about the game.
Personally, i hated the game. The episodes were a bit better, mainly because Valve didn't spend the first half of them masturbating over the physics engine. I admit the story was good, some of the characters were decent and there were some great set pieces, but the main feeling i come away with every time i play it is frustration.
Take the driving sections for instance. There is a reason most FPS's switch to third person for driving. In first person on a TV, you have almost no peripheral vision which makes accurately controlling a vehicle nigh-on impossible, especially when they handle like submarines. And making us drive the thing, dodge explosive barrels and rocks, aim and fire a machine gun at a helicopter that's dropping crap-tons of mines that you also need to dodge is just plain evil.
The puzzles also irritated me. There seemed to be absolutely no point to most of them (the damn see-saw comes to mind). They added nothing to the gameplay, just got in the way of the flow and momentum.
It had some of the most annoying enemies that i've ever faced. Headcrabs that hide round corners, jump in your face and bring you straight down to 1 health, despite your suits 'shields'? Dick move.
I enjoyed some moments of it, especialy the last level with the uber gravity gun, but in between the awesome parts there were huge sections of crap.
THIS IS MY OPINION. IT IS NOT ME STATING FACTS.
Take the driving sections for instance. There is a reason most FPS's switch to third person for driving. In first person on a TV, you have almost no peripheral vision which makes accurately controlling a vehicle nigh-on impossible, especially when they handle like submarines. And making us drive the thing, dodge explosive barrels and rocks, aim and fire a machine gun at a helicopter that's dropping crap-tons of mines that you also need to dodge is just plain evil.
The puzzles also irritated me. There seemed to be absolutely no point to most of them (the damn see-saw comes to mind). They added nothing to the gameplay, just got in the way of the flow and momentum.
It had some of the most annoying enemies that i've ever faced. Headcrabs that hide round corners, jump in your face and bring you straight down to 1 health, despite your suits 'shields'? Dick move.
I enjoyed some moments of it, especialy the last level with the uber gravity gun, but in between the awesome parts there were huge sections of crap.
THIS IS MY OPINION. IT IS NOT ME STATING FACTS.
My thoughts exactly, not bad, just not the life-changing experience that I was told it would be.Lukeydoodly said:
Back in 2004 the game was absolutely amazing, and I think it still holds up pretty well against most FPSs released now-a-days, since a lot of them are built off of the ideas that Half-Life laid down.
And the Gravity Gun is always awesome.
And the Gravity Gun is always awesome.
I disagree.MarsProbe said:
Half-Life 2 is an amazing game and FPS, and as such has stood the test of time very well. An excellent story, awesome gameplay, and, thanks to Valve's continual updates to the Source engine, effects that are still among the best I have ever seen all add up to create a game that I enjoyed even more when I played through it last month then I did several years ago.
On a side note to all those who are bitching about the pistol: try to aim for the head, you will be amazed at how quickly things die when their brains are painting the wall.
Oh god, the wrist watch (shudder)TundraWolf said:
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Sorry for the double post, I clicked without thinking
Half Life 2 was just an ok FPS for me. The shooting parts were not too amazing, but still good, the driving parts were dreaded like the plague, etc, although I enjoyed the fact that the shooting had more brains to it than "shooty shoot".
However, as an experience, HL2 was amazing. Defending areas, invading Nova Prospekt, abusing the Uber Gravity Gun etc. were all memorable experiences, especially Nova Prospekt.
The AI was actually pretty intelligent for being four years old, but the puzzles were just ok.
I never saw a problem with the weapons; they fired bullets effectively, and that's all I really needed.
In my opinion, when you put it all together, it's just an ok game with its great moments, and it probably would've been better played four years ago, as it's been said.
However, as an experience, HL2 was amazing. Defending areas, invading Nova Prospekt, abusing the Uber Gravity Gun etc. were all memorable experiences, especially Nova Prospekt.
The AI was actually pretty intelligent for being four years old, but the puzzles were just ok.
I never saw a problem with the weapons; they fired bullets effectively, and that's all I really needed.
In my opinion, when you put it all together, it's just an ok game with its great moments, and it probably would've been better played four years ago, as it's been said.
Granted, though what I was getting at (my point may not have came across that clear) was that it is most often the case that the people who don't enjoy the game are those that are now playing it for the first time, as opposed to at the time of it's release. I think there was also a topic on here a while back from someone who had just recently played the original Half-Life for the first time. Unsurprisingly, they couldn't see what was so great about the game.I_LIKE_CAKE said:
As far as I'm concerned, I'm still yet to find a FPS that can surpass Half-Life 2 in the singleplayer stakes. Half-Life 3 perhaps?