Half Life/Portal world question

[BoredDragon]

They are both major research facilities so they probably get their money from investors and government research funding. Besides, they probably research different things, despite it both being scientific research.

 

[BanthaFodder]

yeah, Aperture may be a less-serious comapany, but which company is the one that tore our demension a new asshole and unleashed a shit ton of deadly deadly monsters upon the world?

NOW WHO'S STUPID, STUPID.

 

[pdgeorge]

I remember reading somewhere that Mesa and Aperture were both in a sort of 'race' to create portal technology, which Mesa won because of the resonance cascade.
Though while Mesa made the first portal... Aperture science made a stable way of creating portals, linking them and making the whole thing portable.

It'll be interesting to see how the two link up in episode three if it ever comes out.

 

[Agayek]

No I'm fairly sure you meant to say "blowing anything apart"

You lie sir!

 

[SamuelT]

Black Mesa serious company? They were running on tape and gum when you came rolling around man, they were going down for a long time. Aperture science ran on SCIENCE.

And on the murderous AI robot that wouldn't let science be stopped.

 

[blankedboy]

Well I think of Portal as noncanon, even if it's in the same setting and timeline. They're seperate games, does it really matter?

 

[Aiden_the-Joker1]

I consider black mesa to be the "coke" and aperture science as the "pepsi".

 

[fix-the-spade]

Aperture Science is a defense contractor for the United States Government, thus, they are kept rolling in dough no matter what garbage they come up with.

A contractor with 0 contracts...

I think the 'how on earth did Aperteture Science stay in business' question is supposed to be part of the humour. It's a shower curtain company that happens to also possess the tech to build sentry guns, portals and maniacal super computers whilst having no contracts. More importantly, how in Hell did Aperture keep finding new employees all the time?

The worst that happened to Black Mesa staff (pre-resonance cascade scenario) was Dr Kleiner locking himself out of his office. Nobody had to suffer teeth emmancipation.

It's all a big joke and I'm getting a head ache.

 

[Gabriela D.]

Portal technology and fall boots are way more useful to the military than zero-point energy field manipulation.

Yes to the long-fall boots, no to the portal gun. It's not practical enough since it can only create portals on one type of surface. And carrying around the moon rock gel isn't efficient in any way. So that avenue is closed (scientists dead, GLaDOS obsessed with testing) since there is no one to improve the design of the gun to work on various surfaces.

I think I'll stick with the "lift'n'squash" gun.

 

[Beryl77]

The only reason why they could keep doing business, was because of the Portal technology. The army funded them because they wanted the portal technology. Aperture Science and Black Mesa were competing for the funding and Black Mesa won in the end, that's why they went bankrupt.

I and the people at Valve agree that Aperture Science shouldn't be in the same world as Black Mesa, because of the different atmosphere, like you said Portal is too funny to be in the world of Half-Life. When they made Portal 1 they had to put in the same universe as Half-Life because it was only an experiment back then and they didn't have many resources. That's the reason why they try to separate the two games and set Portal 2 hundreds of years in the future.

 

[MysticToast]

Portal technology and fall boots are way more useful to the military than zero-point energy field manipulation.

Yes to the long-fall boots, no to the portal gun. It's not practical enough since it can only create portals on one type of surface. And carrying around the moon rock gel isn't efficient in any way. So that avenue is closed (scientists dead, GLaDOS obsessed with testing) since there is no one to improve the design of the gun to work on various surfaces.

I think I'll stick with the "lift'n'squash" gun.

I don't think ground up moon rocks is the only surface you can place portals on. I'm not sure but it seems to me like they discovered that you can ALSO grind up the moon for portals, in addition to the usable surfaces on earth.

 

[imnot]

Portal technology and fall boots are way more useful to the military than zero-point energy field manipulation.

Yes to the long-fall boots, no to the portal gun. It's not practical enough since it can only create portals on one type of surface. And carrying around the moon rock gel isn't efficient in any way. So that avenue is closed (scientists dead, GLaDOS obsessed with testing) since there is no one to improve the design of the gun to work on various surfaces.

I think I'll stick with the "lift'n'squash" gun.

I don't think ground up moon rocks is the only surface you can place portals on. I'm not sure but it seems to me like they discovered that you can ALSO grind up the moon for portals, in addition to the usable surfaces on earth.

Yes he said they make a great portal conductor meaning other things do to
I would by a turret anyday, and evening at the improv one.

 

[SaltyOrange]

I and the people at Valve agree that Aperture Science shouldn't be in the same world as Black Mesa, because of the different atmosphere, like you said Portal is too funny to be in the world of Half-Life. When they made Portal 1 they had to put in the same universe as Half-Life because it was only an experiment back then and they didn't have many resources. That's the reason why they try to separate the two games and set Portal 2 hundreds of years in the future.

Well,this actually cleared things up.I always thought Valve insisted that portal is in the same universe as half-life and didnt want to change it.
Sry for my lack of knowledge on the subject

 

[Vonnis]

I think the only reason Portal and HL are in the same world is because Portal was an experiment, and Valve knew damn well that HL fanboys would buy anything that even remotely mentioned that franchise. As such, I don´t even consider the Portal and HL worlds to have anything to do with one another. Maybe I´m too cynical, but the only reason for any relation is a reasonably keen business sense on Valve´s part.
You may now flame me and declare Valve to be a collection of gods worthy of naught but our utter devotion who would never do anything to make more money. I´ll politely disagree.

 

[Nieroshai]

Aperture Science also makes shower curtains aside from their defense contracting. Also, Black Mesa DID have funding... until they were destroyed in an unfortunate portal accident that nearly ended the world. Difference between the 2 companies: Aperture Science's tech was based off of the mad ravings of Cave Johnson and much of their tech was never sold, even though it was advanced it was considered too dangerous for human use. Black Mesa, on the other hand, was a normal science lab even though they were able to compete with Aperture.

 

[Nieroshai]

Portal technology and fall boots are way more useful to the military than zero-point energy field manipulation.

Yes to the long-fall boots, no to the portal gun. It's not practical enough since it can only create portals on one type of surface. And carrying around the moon rock gel isn't efficient in any way. So that avenue is closed (scientists dead, GLaDOS obsessed with testing) since there is no one to improve the design of the gun to work on various surfaces.

I think I'll stick with the "lift'n'squash" gun.

I don't think ground up moon rocks is the only surface you can place portals on. I'm not sure but it seems to me like they discovered that you can ALSO grind up the moon for portals, in addition to the usable surfaces on earth.

This is inaccurate, they used moon rocks because they couldn't find any other material that would hold the portal's charge. It quite simply requires a material that Cave Johnson implies can only be found on the moon.

 

[Nieroshai]

I think the only reason Portal and HL are in the same world is because Portal was an experiment, and Valve knew damn well that HL fanboys would buy anything that even remotely mentioned that franchise. As such, I don´t even consider the Portal and HL worlds to have anything to do with one another. Maybe I´m too cynical, but the only reason for any relation is a reasonably keen business sense on Valve´s part.
You may now flame me and declare Valve to be a collection of gods worthy of naught but our utter devotion who would never do anything to make more money. I´ll politely disagree.

The next Half Life episode will feature an Aperture Science ship, the Borealis. Aperture technology is guaranteed to be present, as may be Aperture AIs. I don't question your integrity, I simply use in-game incidents as gauge of what is and isn't canon.

 

[MysticToast]

Portal technology and fall boots are way more useful to the military than zero-point energy field manipulation.

Yes to the long-fall boots, no to the portal gun. It's not practical enough since it can only create portals on one type of surface. And carrying around the moon rock gel isn't efficient in any way. So that avenue is closed (scientists dead, GLaDOS obsessed with testing) since there is no one to improve the design of the gun to work on various surfaces.

I think I'll stick with the "lift'n'squash" gun.

I don't think ground up moon rocks is the only surface you can place portals on. I'm not sure but it seems to me like they discovered that you can ALSO grind up the moon for portals, in addition to the usable surfaces on earth.

This is inaccurate, they used moon rocks because they couldn't find any other material that would hold the portal's charge. It quite simply requires a material that Cave Johnson implies can only be found on the moon.

I don't buy that. It doesn't specifically say in the game that moon rock is the only portal-able surface.

According to the Combine OverWiki (and yes I realize this isn't the MOST reliable source) it says "Moonrock is also a good portal conductor" which I'm just saying to add to my statement.

 

[Beryl77]

Well,this actually cleared things up.I always thought Valve insisted that portal is in the same universe as half-life and didnt want to change it.
Sry for my lack of knowledge on the subject

Well it still is in the same universe. Aperture Science gets mentioned in ep2 as the company who made the Borealis and some secret technology but the connections between the games are loose. You'd never see Gordon Freeman run through the Enrichment Center or Chell in the next hl game.
You could say that as long as you're in Aperture Science, you're in this funny world but as soon as you step out of the facility you're in the serious world of Half-Life.

 

[Vonnis]

I think the only reason Portal and HL are in the same world is because Portal was an experiment, and Valve knew damn well that HL fanboys would buy anything that even remotely mentioned that franchise. As such, I don´t even consider the Portal and HL worlds to have anything to do with one another. Maybe I´m too cynical, but the only reason for any relation is a reasonably keen business sense on Valve´s part.
You may now flame me and declare Valve to be a collection of gods worthy of naught but our utter devotion who would never do anything to make more money. I´ll politely disagree.

The next Half Life episode will feature an Aperture Science ship, the Borealis. Aperture technology is guaranteed to be present, as may be Aperture AIs. I don't question your integrity, I simply use in-game incidents as gauge of what is and isn't canon.

That´s future talk though. Not saying it´s not going to happen, I´m sure it will, but the way I see it this is just fanservice. They made a fairly vague link between HL and Portal with the first Portal, and now they´re expanding on that, because it worked and because not doing so would piss off the fans (and rightly so, as honestly the HL story is a bit of a mess and any hint about the story or game universe is valuable, and Portal can´t stand on its own feet in that regard). Again, good business sense.