That's the thing, Travis handled her character more or less fine, it's 343 that dropped the ball hard on this one.Beffudled Sheep said:I haven't played Halo 4 yet but I've read the background books. I think her behavior in 4 is because of the way Karen Traviss (Star Wars fans recoil in disgust with me!) pretty much hijacked her character and suddenly gave all of humanity an intense hatred and personal vendetta against her cuz author bias. So if she acts stupid or plotholish I'd blame Traviss.Saviordd1 said:It was all in all a pretty good turn of events...however...
I find Halsey's behavior a tad...plotholish.
Then again I'm biased against Traviss so grain of salt and all that.
I'll have to give Halo 4 a go then. Just waiting for the money haha.Saviordd1 said:That's the thing, Travis handled her character more or less fine, it's 343 that dropped the ball hard on this one.Beffudled Sheep said:I haven't played Halo 4 yet but I've read the background books. I think her behavior in 4 is because of the way Karen Traviss (Star Wars fans recoil in disgust with me!) pretty much hijacked her character and suddenly gave all of humanity an intense hatred and personal vendetta against her cuz author bias. So if she acts stupid or plotholish I'd blame Traviss.Saviordd1 said:It was all in all a pretty good turn of events...however...
I find Halsey's behavior a tad...plotholish.
Then again I'm biased against Traviss so grain of salt and all that.
Quite a bit of story is actually in the levels, if you listen to Cortana and the Chief, and whoever else talks to you.Legion said:I thought it was complete and utter crap with a ridiculous amount of recycled levels. Like most Halo games, too little of the actual story takes place in the game itself. It all comes down to "Go here and shoot everything, then press a button, shoot some more things then get picked up."
I felt that beyond the cut-scenes (which were good), they put no effort into it at all.
Jesus man, that's a pretty harsh tone, especially considering he wasn't trying to convince anyone to play it.kman123 said:The gameplay was so fucking stale and boring that I could never bother making the push to the cutscenes itself. Why should I be forced to trudge through hours of repetitive boring shit in order to see a few minutes of exposition?
I don't consider listening into a headpiece good storytelling. Yes, they explained things, but it had no relevance to what you actually did. So they talk about science teams unleashing Protheans or whatnot, that doesn't change the fact that the level where that happens is exactly the same as about four other identical missions where the only difference is what I hear from the person on the radio.arc1991 said:Quite a bit of story is actually in the levels, if you listen to Cortana and the Chief, and whoever else talks to you.Legion said:I thought it was complete and utter crap with a ridiculous amount of recycled levels. Like most Halo games, too little of the actual story takes place in the game itself. It all comes down to "Go here and shoot everything, then press a button, shoot some more things then get picked up."
I felt that beyond the cut-scenes (which were good), they put no effort into it at all.
you are pretty much describing, at least 80% of all shooters...Halo is no exception, but at least it's interesting, if you bother to pay attention, which by the looks of it half of this forum doesn't.
it does kind of fit in with her character though she is a bit of a selfish *****.arc1991 said:I'm in 2 minds about the first spoiler, on one hand, in reality, she was targeted and was meant to be terminated, maybe she thought it was the only option...TheSapphireKnight said:Lets try this again.
The story part was good, but I would be insulted if they really expected us to buy the first spoiler and if they are serious then I am calling shenanigans.
As for the second bit I wish they could of found a better way to resolve the story other than what is basically Halo tradition when more easily could have been done.
Gameplay wise it was a complete disappointment. Only partially new areas for the season finally with maybe two interesting sections. They could have cut almost half of the chapters and completely removed two episodes and it wouldn't have effected the story in the slightest. I would have easily taken fewer missions with less repitition and if they do continue spartan ops(despite my issues I hope they do) I hope they either take the time to flesh out all the areas with little to no repetiiton(within an episode is okay such as episode 3 or episode 7), or just keep the season length shorter with less repetition.
On the other had this is the Halo Universe...and seems a weird move, however she could be bluffing to the elite in order to stay alive.
We don't get to have cool shit because apparently these guys would rather prattle on and on with some incredibly 'meh' story, told only in cutscenes, that noone except the harder fans tend to give a crap about than do something remotely interesting gameplay wise.skywolfblue said:Mind-numbingly boring gameplay. They could have done interesting things like "Race a mongoose to the finish" "Jetpack platforming" or other crazy stuff, but no it had to be just "kill enemies, kill more enemies, and then kill some enemies". Mass Effect 3 and Gears of War 3 could do that in their horde modes because their gameplay was fun, they had a huge amount of unique weapons, and they have "boss type" enemies that mix it up, halo 4 has none of these.