Halo's Fanbase

[awsome117]

I like halo - it's frantic combat style - strange story - stupid little gassmasked helium sucking imp like alien migets, and all. If i had to put it to just 2 reasons why there are so many ppeople who hate it i'd say; un-realistic combat and the annoying foul mouthed tea bggers that seem to clog up most of the online modes with there insesive: "powned noooooooob!"(s) and "F***k you"(s) that they feel a need to shout at you every time they break you killing spree.

I still like halo though.

I like your side to this. I mean, you're right about why I don't like the game. And thank you for mentioning the unrealistic combat style, because I had 1 thing to say about that: Even in the distant future, who designs a combat suit that can take 32 Bullets from an Assault rifle, as well as it can take 1 smack in the face? It's funny because whenever I ask this question to the "Pwnd NOoooooobz" type of Halo player, the response is always the same: "It's the future, idiot!", as though they completely missed what I just asked.

The Mark IV(and V basically) are still prototypes(basically). Humans got these things up and running in 2552, right before the covenant invaded Reach, so they didn't really have the time(or funds) to fix all the bugs in the suit.

 

[Megacherv]

Now don't worry. This isn't going to be a senseless "bash Halo thread" but something I've noticed. I go on alot websites and gaming forums and all I see there is "OMG HALO SUKS" threads. If so many people hate it, then why does it have such a huge fanbase?

I mean on any forum I go to the number of Halo haters seems to greatly out-weigh the number of likers.

Your thoughts? Opinions?

Lots of people die, yet it's not a good thing

Nah, I'm kidding. Halo 2 is fun to play, a nice balance of good visuals and unrealistic gameplay, and playing Halo Trial with friends over the school network is equally as fun as Unreal Tournament on there. I just don't like playing it since my friend is always a prick-face on it. Same reason that really put me off owning CoD4

 

[Pandalisk]

It has a big fanbase because the world is FUCKING LARGE. you have alot who love it, you have alot who hate it, who expects anything other than that to happen to everything! games,books,movies its all the same. People have their opinions on things, the halo bashing happens when people are trolling or feel like they must voice their opinion to everyone in the hopes of changing someones opinion on something really bloody pointless, which wont work anyway.

There are people, those people have different opinions on say halo, and then there are those who cant shut the fuck up.

Life is a testament to the haters will always be more vocal than the lovers.

 

[ArcWinter]

I do believe that everything would be better if nobody cared.

As for me, I like Halo, it is great to play with friends. However, it has a very bad matchmaking system. For some reason, I like the COD series better. Hooray ambivalence!

Actually, the only time I encountered a Neo-Nazi was when playing COD:WAW (irony!), and since I am Jewish, I played a couple games against him, handily killing him around 50 times in total.

The conclusion I have come to is that annoying people play Halo, and that racists play COD. On the peripherals, insecure people play GOW, and idiot hackers play TF2.
Hating everyone equally means no discrimination!

 

[Et3rnalLegend64]

Vocal minority? Haven't been on the BNet forums though, so I don't know anything about infighting. Or they believe that it sucks because it's popular.

 

[Manhattan2112]

I like halo - it's frantic combat style - strange story - stupid little gassmasked helium sucking imp like alien migets, and all. If i had to put it to just 2 reasons why there are so many ppeople who hate it i'd say; un-realistic combat and the annoying foul mouthed tea bggers that seem to clog up most of the online modes with there insesive: "powned noooooooob!"(s) and "F***k you"(s) that they feel a need to shout at you every time they break you killing spree.

I still like halo though.

I like your side to this. I mean, you're right about why I don't like the game. And thank you for mentioning the unrealistic combat style, because I had 1 thing to say about that: Even in the distant future, who designs a combat suit that can take 32 Bullets from an Assault rifle, as well as it can take 1 smack in the face? It's funny because whenever I ask this question to the "Pwnd NOoooooobz" type of Halo player, the response is always the same: "It's the future, idiot!", as though they completely missed what I just asked.

The Mark IV(and V basically) are still prototypes(basically). Humans got these things up and running in 2552, right before the covenant invaded Reach, so they didn't really have the time(or funds) to fix all the bugs in the suit.

Thank you for that explanation. It's definitely better than "IT'S THE FUTURE". Haha.

 

[lukemdizzle]

I like halo - it's frantic combat style - strange story - stupid little gassmasked helium sucking imp like alien migets, and all. If i had to put it to just 2 reasons why there are so many ppeople who hate it i'd say; un-realistic combat and the annoying foul mouthed tea bggers that seem to clog up most of the online modes with there insesive: "powned noooooooob!"(s) and "F***k you"(s) that they feel a need to shout at you every time they break you killing spree.

I still like halo though.

I like your side to this. I mean, you're right about why I don't like the game. And thank you for mentioning the unrealistic combat style, because I had 1 thing to say about that: Even in the distant future, who designs a combat suit that can take 32 Bullets from an Assault rifle, as well as it can take 1 smack in the face? It's funny because whenever I ask this question to the "Pwnd NOoooooobz" type of Halo player, the response is always the same: "It's the future, idiot!", as though they completely missed what I just asked.

its unrealistic in an effort to balance the gameplay without everybody dyeing in one or two shots.

 

[Bigeyez]

People hate things that are popular. Halo is popular, therefore it's hated. Sure there are people who don't like it for whatever reason and thats fine, but most of the "zomgz Galo is t3h suckzorz" is people who just hate crap to be different.

Okay see, but you may just be lending credibility to my point, because The Sims sits in the exact same iconic position as Halo.

Explain WHY you hate the sims. Don't just give us some obscure crap about "it's the devil". What is it about these games that has earned your ire?

Ok, ok. Comparable examples a-following:

Years ago, there was an ad campaign in American newspapers for a new type of pet. It said the pet didn't need to be cleaned, fed, walked or even cared about and would still be perfectly loyal. A company was selling them at 9.99$, and it was a whopping success. The "pet" was actually a little polished rock at the end of a leash.

A while back (think it was the 80's) a company was selling Bottled Norwegian Mountain Air for 50$ for a tank. They were investigated for fraud, but noone could claim they didn't sell a product legally, as they tapped real Norwegian mountain air from a property they owned, on to bottles, and sold it. Is it illegal to sell air? Apparently not, because the authorities let them go on, until foreign traders stopped taking in the product on an ethical basis even though it was selling ok.

The immortal words of that great Baltimore newspaperman H.L. Mencken:
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public."

My point with all this;
Halo owes it's success to a few men's drive to make money, and with this game they basically got permission to print money themselves. This is not the reason I hate Halo. The reason is, they didn't earn it.

Fact is, Halo is the epitome of derivative storylines. It bears so many resemblances to different cultural works that it's not even funny. A few: The Culture and Ringworld, written by Iain M. Banks and Larry Niven, Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game: aspects of the SPARTAN Project, Christopher Rowley's Starhammer, Demolition Man, and as covered here on The Escapist - the Latin epic Aeneid, written by classical Roman poet Virgil.

Halo didn't set out to innovate and replenish a genre, it set out to regurgitate the old; but the ignorant public chewed it up because they weren't enlightened enough to have tasted it before. And despite it's linearity, unreasonably obese graphics and derivative story, it achieved great popularity. But not only because the dominos of great reviews were pouring in, but because it launched, as it was handpicked to, with almost every new Xbox on the market. Synergy between the two has been key.

And that opens up another pet peeve, the main reason why Halo broke my heart; the console. The Xbox was successful in part because of Halo, and as we all know, the Xbox ushered in the era where consoles would be in almost every home. Since then, PC games have been getting worse, and farther apart. The developers now think it is "just fine" to produce one game for 3 systems, and as a result, the PC users are usually the ones left hurting.

Could I possibly make myself more clear?

You not liking the story is a fine and dandy reason to not liking a game but come on Bungie didn't earn their success with Halo? Halo did to console FPS's what Counter Strike did to PC FPS's. It DID innovate console FPS's. It DID revolutionize console gaming as a whole. Regurgitate the old? What story in todays world is truly, completely unique? EVERY story has elements that you can trace back to others. As far as Halo not having a story goes, the story was there. You may not have liked it but it certainly was there. Edit: In fact with the books included Halo has a MUCH richer story then many, many other games, let alone other FPS's.

You attribute Halo's success to that of the Pet Rock back in the 80's then go on to say Halo caused the downfall of the PC market? How does that even make sense? The PC market fell because consoles made things easier for both end users and developers. You didn't have to fumble with installation of hardware or software. You simply pop in your game and play. The PC market was in decline for a loooooong time before the Xbox and Halo ever saw the light of day.

 

[awsome117]

I like halo - it's frantic combat style - strange story - stupid little gassmasked helium sucking imp like alien migets, and all. If i had to put it to just 2 reasons why there are so many ppeople who hate it i'd say; un-realistic combat and the annoying foul mouthed tea bggers that seem to clog up most of the online modes with there insesive: "powned noooooooob!"(s) and "F***k you"(s) that they feel a need to shout at you every time they break you killing spree.

I still like halo though.

I like your side to this. I mean, you're right about why I don't like the game. And thank you for mentioning the unrealistic combat style, because I had 1 thing to say about that: Even in the distant future, who designs a combat suit that can take 32 Bullets from an Assault rifle, as well as it can take 1 smack in the face? It's funny because whenever I ask this question to the "Pwnd NOoooooobz" type of Halo player, the response is always the same: "It's the future, idiot!", as though they completely missed what I just asked.

The Mark IV(and V basically) are still prototypes(basically). Humans got these things up and running in 2552, right before the covenant invaded Reach, so they didn't really have the time(or funds) to fix all the bugs in the suit.

Thank you for that explanation. It's definitely better than "IT'S THE FUTURE". Haha.

There's more to it than that, but that's the basic idea about how the shields work.

 

[Manhattan2112]

People hate things that are popular. Halo is popular, therefore it's hated. Sure there are people who don't like it for whatever reason and thats fine, but most of the "zomgz Galo is t3h suckzorz" is people who just hate crap to be different.

Okay see, but you may just be lending credibility to my point, because The Sims sits in the exact same iconic position as Halo.

Explain WHY you hate the sims. Don't just give us some obscure crap about "it's the devil". What is it about these games that has earned your ire?

Ok, ok. Comparable examples a-following:

Years ago, there was an ad campaign in American newspapers for a new type of pet. It said the pet didn't need to be cleaned, fed, walked or even cared about and would still be perfectly loyal. A company was selling them at 9.99$, and it was a whopping success. The "pet" was actually a little polished rock at the end of a leash.

A while back (think it was the 80's) a company was selling Bottled Norwegian Mountain Air for 50$ for a tank. They were investigated for fraud, but noone could claim they didn't sell a product legally, as they tapped real Norwegian mountain air from a property they owned, on to bottles, and sold it. Is it illegal to sell air? Apparently not, because the authorities let them go on, until foreign traders stopped taking in the product on an ethical basis even though it was selling ok.

The immortal words of that great Baltimore newspaperman H.L. Mencken:
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public."

My point with all this;
Halo owes it's success to a few men's drive to make money, and with this game they basically got permission to print money themselves. This is not the reason I hate Halo. The reason is, they didn't earn it.

Fact is, Halo is the epitome of derivative storylines. It bears so many resemblances to different cultural works that it's not even funny. A few: The Culture and Ringworld, written by Iain M. Banks and Larry Niven, Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game: aspects of the SPARTAN Project, Christopher Rowley's Starhammer, Demolition Man, and as covered here on The Escapist - the Latin epic Aeneid, written by classical Roman poet Virgil.

Halo didn't set out to innovate and replenish a genre, it set out to regurgitate the old; but the ignorant public chewed it up because they weren't enlightened enough to have tasted it before. And despite it's linearity, unreasonably obese graphics and derivative story, it achieved great popularity. But not only because the dominos of great reviews were pouring in, but because it launched, as it was handpicked to, with almost every new Xbox on the market. Synergy between the two has been key.

And that opens up another pet peeve, the main reason why Halo broke my heart; the console. The Xbox was successful in part because of Halo, and as we all know, the Xbox ushered in the era where consoles would be in almost every home. Since then, PC games have been getting worse, and farther apart. The developers now think it is "just fine" to produce one game for 3 systems, and as a result, the PC users are usually the ones left hurting.

Could I possibly make myself more clear?

You not liking the story is a fine and dandy reason to not liking a game but come on Bungie didn't earn their success with Halo? Halo did to console FPS's what Counter Strike did to PC FPS's. It DID innovate console FPS's. It DID revolutionize console gaming as a whole. Regurgitate the old? What story in todays world is truly, completely unique? EVERY story has elements that you can trace back to others. As far as Halo not having a story goes, the story was there. You may not have liked it but it certainly was there.

You attribute Halo's success to that of the Pet Rock back in the 80's then go on to say Halo caused the downfall of the PC market? How does that even make sense? The PC market fell because consoles made things easier for both end users and developers. You didn't have to fumble with installation of hardware or software. You simply pop in your game and play. The PC market was in decline for a loooooong time before the Xbox and Halo ever saw the light of day.

But didn't Doom come before Halo? And Doom was basically the format of like, every single FPS ever - regardless of what platform they were for. With a few exceptions here and there.

 

[Blurbl]

Everyone hates everything that's popular to appear 'edgey' and 'cool' and differeniate themselves from the uncultured masses. Irony at it's finest.

I like Halo. Got the books. I wouldn't bother arguing with someone who disagrees with me on it's quality.

 

[Bigeyez]

People hate things that are popular. Halo is popular, therefore it's hated. Sure there are people who don't like it for whatever reason and thats fine, but most of the "zomgz Galo is t3h suckzorz" is people who just hate crap to be different.

Okay see, but you may just be lending credibility to my point, because The Sims sits in the exact same iconic position as Halo.

Explain WHY you hate the sims. Don't just give us some obscure crap about "it's the devil". What is it about these games that has earned your ire?

Ok, ok. Comparable examples a-following:

Years ago, there was an ad campaign in American newspapers for a new type of pet. It said the pet didn't need to be cleaned, fed, walked or even cared about and would still be perfectly loyal. A company was selling them at 9.99$, and it was a whopping success. The "pet" was actually a little polished rock at the end of a leash.

A while back (think it was the 80's) a company was selling Bottled Norwegian Mountain Air for 50$ for a tank. They were investigated for fraud, but noone could claim they didn't sell a product legally, as they tapped real Norwegian mountain air from a property they owned, on to bottles, and sold it. Is it illegal to sell air? Apparently not, because the authorities let them go on, until foreign traders stopped taking in the product on an ethical basis even though it was selling ok.

The immortal words of that great Baltimore newspaperman H.L. Mencken:
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public."

My point with all this;
Halo owes it's success to a few men's drive to make money, and with this game they basically got permission to print money themselves. This is not the reason I hate Halo. The reason is, they didn't earn it.

Fact is, Halo is the epitome of derivative storylines. It bears so many resemblances to different cultural works that it's not even funny. A few: The Culture and Ringworld, written by Iain M. Banks and Larry Niven, Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game: aspects of the SPARTAN Project, Christopher Rowley's Starhammer, Demolition Man, and as covered here on The Escapist - the Latin epic Aeneid, written by classical Roman poet Virgil.

Halo didn't set out to innovate and replenish a genre, it set out to regurgitate the old; but the ignorant public chewed it up because they weren't enlightened enough to have tasted it before. And despite it's linearity, unreasonably obese graphics and derivative story, it achieved great popularity. But not only because the dominos of great reviews were pouring in, but because it launched, as it was handpicked to, with almost every new Xbox on the market. Synergy between the two has been key.

And that opens up another pet peeve, the main reason why Halo broke my heart; the console. The Xbox was successful in part because of Halo, and as we all know, the Xbox ushered in the era where consoles would be in almost every home. Since then, PC games have been getting worse, and farther apart. The developers now think it is "just fine" to produce one game for 3 systems, and as a result, the PC users are usually the ones left hurting.

Could I possibly make myself more clear?

You not liking the story is a fine and dandy reason to not liking a game but come on Bungie didn't earn their success with Halo? Halo did to console FPS's what Counter Strike did to PC FPS's. It DID innovate console FPS's. It DID revolutionize console gaming as a whole. Regurgitate the old? What story in todays world is truly, completely unique? EVERY story has elements that you can trace back to others. As far as Halo not having a story goes, the story was there. You may not have liked it but it certainly was there.

You attribute Halo's success to that of the Pet Rock back in the 80's then go on to say Halo caused the downfall of the PC market? How does that even make sense? The PC market fell because consoles made things easier for both end users and developers. You didn't have to fumble with installation of hardware or software. You simply pop in your game and play. The PC market was in decline for a loooooong time before the Xbox and Halo ever saw the light of day.

But didn't Doom come before Halo? And Doom was basically the format of like, every single FPS ever. With a few exceptions here and there.

If by format you mean theres a guy with a gun shooting at things, then yeah. Don't get why you quoted me to say that but ok. =p

 

[UsefulPlayer 1]

I love halo. Though I'll admit I don't play it much these days. Bad maps on Halo 3 and all. (Halo 2 Rules!!)

Can someone tell Bungie to fix matchmaking? if you don't have the paid for maps then you can't really play anything. Seems like a cut throat way of getting people to buy their "obviously not worth it" maps.

I mean for the same price I can get a Fallout 3 expansion.

 

[Manhattan2112]

To that message up there ^^ I'm so new to this thing. Literally. I got my account months ago, but this is the second time I've ever been in a discussion. So I don't really know how to do this. Forgive me please.

 

[thiosk]

and all I see there is "OMG HALO SUKS" threads. If so many people hate it, then why does it have such a huge fanbase?

I mean on any forum I go to the number of Halo haters seems to greatly out-weigh the number of likers.

Your thoughts? Opinions?

Everywhere I look on the internet I find OMG GEORGE W BUSH SUKS threads too. His fanbase still numbers in the millions, even though its only 20-30% of the US.

And thats why we don't use the internet in order to learn about such things. If you trust the internet, your grandfathers illegitimate nigerian grandson has died and willed you 34.000.000 US. DOLLARS FOR IMMEDIATE TRANSFER, the moonlanding is a hoax, pedobear did 911, and ron paul would be president.

Sadly, none of those things are the case, and we're stuck with the world as we know it-- where some people just like different things.

 

[pumpkinlad]

Halo was definitely well made title and It was alot of fun, but it was over hyped, and would probably be worth around an 8/10. (and if those annoying kids really do get to you that much, then just mute them and stop crucifying the game for it)

 

[Keldon888]

In my opinion, Halo 2 was an awful game, just plain bad. It was a straight downgrade from Halo 1, less balanced, less fluid, brought nothing new to the table besides a phoned in dual wield ability.

Halo was a very competent game, nothing revolutionary, in a Xbox time where there were no good shooters. And so it got alot of well deserved success.

Halo 3 is a pretty good game, fixed alot of the problems 2 has and much like Halo 1 is a very solid game, if nothing new and exciting is in it either.

And overall the Halo series has a surprisingly good story and a very good players and vehicles system that kills most other games that try to put vehicles in.

I don't think Halo 3 deserved anywhere near the hype it got, but its a good game, and since I don't own it, I'll be picking up ODST.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

Do you really think a video game could be loved by everyone?

It's just the nature of video games in general...

It's not unusual....

 

[Amarok]

Few people seem to have noticed that on this site, whatever Yahtzee says about a game becomes the number 1 criticism on the forums. I am really not joking, the key words he uses for any game are then spread like wild-fire on the discussion boards.

Too right, the amount of people I've seen in the past few weeks claiming The Sims is "evil"

I mean honestly, if someone on say, Fox News, came out and said the Sims was evil we'd tear them apart*, and rightly so. But nay o nay o nay, the word of the Trilby Hat must be LAW.


*actually we'll complain loudly on these forums and the people at Fox News will pay us no attention nor even notice us.

 

[DasAShinyGolash]

Few people seem to have noticed that on this site, whatever Yahtzee says about a game becomes the number 1 criticism on the forums. I am really not joking, the key words he uses for any game are then spread like wild-fire on the discussion boards.

Too right, the amount of people I've seen in the past few weeks claiming The Sims is "evil"

I mean honestly, if someone on say, Fox News, came out and said the Sims was evil we'd tear them apart*, and rightly so. But nay o nay o nay, the word of the Trilby Hat must be LAW.

dang, you beat me to it, but its true. then again, maybe its yahtzee thats atracting the halo haters instead of creating them


*actually we'll complain loudly on these forums and the people at Fox News will pay us no attention nor even notice us.