And this is why I am no longer a part of that fan base.
The Bungie games were brilliant and they knew exactly when to quit. So did I.
The Bungie games were brilliant and they knew exactly when to quit. So did I.
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I think if they were loser with the brand and let other studios have a stab at taking the halo universe in new directions we might see some interesting results. The books have so much rich lore to draw from for story ideas. Halo Wars was a good stab at that, it might not have sold like hot cakes but i enjoyed it!
am i the only one thinking this? Heck, i don't mind if its more shooters really, just give us something interesting.
am i the only one thinking this? Heck, i don't mind if its more shooters really, just give us something interesting.
Soeaking as a diehard Halo fan, NO. NO. NONONONONONONONO. As far as I'm concerned the series ended with Reach. I won't be buying any more Halos and not just because if I get a next-gen console I'm not gonna get an Xbone. Please, Karren Travis nearly ruined it, just let it die with dignity!
And I thought 2 was too many.
Honestly, Combat Evolved had a nice brilliant little story that was perfectly concluded with the destruction of the actual Halo. Everything after that has been complete nonsense.
I guess the important thing is that it keeps making them money.
Honestly, Combat Evolved had a nice brilliant little story that was perfectly concluded with the destruction of the actual Halo. Everything after that has been complete nonsense.
I guess the important thing is that it keeps making them money.
Agreed. For me there's nothing I can see them doing that would make me want to buy it and an Xbone just to continue the story. Sure there are some major plot holes that could do with a little explaining, but not nothing that I can see them basing an entire story off of.0takuMetalhead said:
I felt that Halo 4 lacked the "Heart" of the older games. It felt way too serious, without the more cartoonish and fantastical elements of the original series. The enthusiasm and energy of the characters and the setting are what sold me on Halo, not the melodrama and hard faced military men doing everything with a grimace.
I still want a Halo game based around the Sangheili-Jaralhanae war from The Return.
I still want a Halo game based around the Sangheili-Jaralhanae war from The Return.
Agreed, though I would add that this problem started before Halo 4.Soviet Heavy said:
The best parts of Halo were with open environments, blocky brightly colored Spartans and sympathetic, 'kind of cute in a bizarre way' Covenant. I loved Halo 2 because it kept the same things that made Halo great while also adding depth to the story with the Arbiter (who is a better character than Master Chief in every single way. I wish all the games were about him.)
Where Halo falters is when it tries to be the opposite and be grimdark. I though the Halo Reach characters looked ridiculous when they were wearing gear and straps everywhere but still had bright blue armor underneath. The whole ONI kidnapping thing doesn't make any sense at all. The tone tries to be serious, but then shows me a battleship-sized IFV and expects me not to laugh at it.
I read Fall of Reach, Halo, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx. Halo Reach - The Game, contradicts things in Halo Reach - the book. They even went so far as to establish "a policy of "superior canon" in the halopedia. They call it a freaking "ladder of canon." They say that everything is canon, except for where there is contradiction. If there is contradiction, the games take precedent over the books. Cuz **** continuity. We'll make this **** up as we go along to move units.Mike Richards said:
And this is why I am NOT excited about the Xbone. Resistance was a fun FPS series, which ended well. Gears of War wasa great FPS series that ended well.
Halo...
I think Halo is the western version of Resident Evil. Only the most devoted fans of Halo love the fact this series will never get taken off life support as they come up with more contrived enemies for Master Chief to fight. They will probably get some new fans, but not as many as they would like, but they seem to be forgetting what the series was like, and are following Capcom as they drag their handicapped poodle 'Resi Evil' around by it's leash.
Halo...
I think Halo is the western version of Resident Evil. Only the most devoted fans of Halo love the fact this series will never get taken off life support as they come up with more contrived enemies for Master Chief to fight. They will probably get some new fans, but not as many as they would like, but they seem to be forgetting what the series was like, and are following Capcom as they drag their handicapped poodle 'Resi Evil' around by it's leash.
That's every multimedia franchise ever, really. Star Wars does the exact same thing with "G Canon" and on down. Once a canon gets sprawly enough and it's still open canon for the main media type, you pretty much have to.tdylan said:
OT: I love the Halo universe in general, but I'm not feeling any of this Forerunner stuff. I got through one of the Bear books and that only after putting it down multiple times out of boredom. I was surprised to find that I had to turn to Halo wiki to make sense of the game-- this really wasn't true of the earlier games. One thing I liked about how Bungie handled it was that you could follow the plot pretty well if you weren't an expanded universe reader but there were always bonuses for people who were (e.g. "it's the coin's fault"). I just felt like the storytelling wasn't up to Bungie's standard, and I'm still pissed at how they (mis)handled Cortana in every possible way.
If the focus was seriously different (oh gosh yes! to inter-Covenant controversies and more Arbiter) I'd be all behind it, but the Forerunners are dull, Didact was a wet fart of a villain compared to H2 Truth and Gravemind, Cortana is not a hysterical woman stereotype who looks like a porn pinup (there's a difference between fanservice and that... thing... they did to her in 4 with the boobs and the open-mouth pout), these new human officers are a poor replacement for Sarge, I *hated* every single thing about the new Grunt and Elite designs, it was just IMO an inferior game. It's a shame, too, because Forward was so good.
I dont know that there is much to say about this. Not to sound pompous or anything but I kind of thought this was going to be another beat the franchise long after it should have died situations. I liked Halo 3 a lot but in my opinion that is where they peaked. Sure 343 had a few good things in Halo 4 but not enough to really make it anything more than it was, the beginning of a long drawn out and sad end. I tend to hold the opinion that it is better to give something a good end earlier on and preserve its dignity.