Hard Reset Gameplay Trailer Debuts

[Saulkar]

Flying Wild Hog's Hard Reset comes out in September, exclusively for the PC.

Spoiler: I'm such a chode

PS: The Flying Wild Hog is a Polish developer that is made up from members of People Can Fly, and former developers from CD Projekt and City Interactive.

Looks like history may repeat itself. Who want to bet this will be a sleeper hit then the developers will be bought up by a big-shot publisher who will force them to make a rushed shitty cover based shooter for consoles with aim-down-sights?

Just like Bulletstorm.

I am sad that I am not the only one who holds this fear. This game looks like it has a significant amount of potential. Just give the weapons better sound effects and more OOMPH! Combine that with more dynamic enemies that interact with the world like tossing cars or bits of already present debris in the environment, running along wall for brief bouts, or even take control of locally present machines like ATMs to try and hack your interface.

 

[RelexCryo]

Looks good, I might buy it. Unfortunately, this fall season looks to be chock full of games I really want to buy. This game is on my list, but not sure about my budget at this point.

 

[Thyunda]

Too bad that it's exclusive PC, otherwise I'd have been interested. But for those with a up to date PC, seems like a fun game. Of course, it's impossible to tell right now, but I prefer to be optimistic with these sort of things.

Graphics cards are cheap and powerful.

For the cost of a single console game you can get something like an AMD 5670 that'll play Crysis on High settings.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2917/5

Or the GT440

And if you're about to say "but when I play $60 for a consoel game I get a game"

Well just considering PC gamign you get access to a load of free games:
-Team Fortress 2
-Alien Swarm
-FEAR Combat
-League of Legends
-Savage 2: A tortured Soul
-Wolfenstein: enemy territory
-Trackmania nations Forever
-Half Life 2: deathmatch
-Spiral Knights
-Global Agenda

Hell, there are more than I can even remember, this site complies a lot of them:

http://www.freepcgamers.com/2008/03/free-fps-first-person-shooter-games.html

...Except that I have a laptop. So that $60 just became $2500. So, yeah...

Daaaauuu... huh?

I've just shown you two graphics cards - the single most expensive component - that cost less than $80. Now you're pulling this $2'500 figure out of the air?

I think they were trying to say that they have to buy a whole new machine to play the game. You can't just switch out graphics cards on a laptop.

 

[Hristo Tzonkov]

Flying Wild Hog's Hard Reset comes out in September, exclusively for the PC.

Spoiler: I'm such a chode

PS: The Flying Wild Hog is a Polish developer that is made up from members of People Can Fly, and former developers from CD Projekt and City Interactive.

Looks like history may repeat itself. Who want to bet this will be a sleeper hit then the developers will be bought up by a big-shot publisher who will force them to make a rushed shitty cover based shooter for consoles with aim-down-sights?

Just like Bulletstorm.

Would you give it a rest already?

Also the colorful trailer sets a lot of whiners at rest that the game would be a gritty grayscale shooter set in the apocalyptic future.Oh no it didn't now they're whining about other shit.

 

[RA92]

Did you guys see the flying car?

I love flying cars!

OT: Will keep a lookout for this one. Just hope there will be more enemies on the screen at once for me to dodge and fire.

 

[ImprovizoR]

There's a health bar.

Day 1 purchase.

Church!
God I hate that slang but I had to try it out.

It looks fun, a lot of fun. And it's PC exclusive so you know it will be optimized. Made by Polish so you know it's quality. Those guys may not be able to stop a blitzkrieg, but they can make games.

Pound-for-pound they inflicted more losses than we did in the fight back to Dunkirk.

Poles dealt unsustainable losses against the Luftwaffe and retreated back to a secure bastion in the south.

Only for them to be attacked from the east. The Nazi war machine on one side, the massive Soviet Red Army on the other, it's amazing they lasted as long as they did. And they were able to evacuate thousands of their troops who were able to fight under British command with distinction throughout the war even as their homeland was occupied. Most distinguished at Monte Casino where they finally broke the siege.

Actually, no one has stopped a "Blitzkrieg". The only way to foil it is to avoid it: retreat 1000 miles back to the gates of Moscow burning everything you leave behind and hoping they don't reach the Capital before Winter.

The British in North Africa had to learn the same lesson, the only way to deal with Rommel was to fall back massive distance every time he got the upper hand in an attempt to overstretch their supply lines and sure up ones own defences.

So the only way to deal with Blitzkrieg is with geography. And Poland in 1939 was between a rock and a hard place.

You can always count on at least one poor soul on the internet that can't take a joke.

 

[Treblaine]

There's a health bar.

Day 1 purchase.

Church!
God I hate that slang but I had to try it out.

It looks fun, a lot of fun. And it's PC exclusive so you know it will be optimized. Made by Polish so you know it's quality. Those guys may not be able to stop a blitzkrieg, but they can make games.

Pound-for-pound they inflicted more losses than we did in the fight back to Dunkirk.

Poles dealt unsustainable losses against the Luftwaffe and retreated back to a secure bastion in the south.

Only for them to be attacked from the east. The Nazi war machine on one side, the massive Soviet Red Army on the other, it's amazing they lasted as long as they did. And they were able to evacuate thousands of their troops who were able to fight under British command with distinction throughout the war even as their homeland was occupied. Most distinguished at Monte Casino where they finally broke the siege.

Actually, no one has stopped a "Blitzkrieg". The only way to foil it is to avoid it: retreat 1000 miles back to the gates of Moscow burning everything you leave behind and hoping they don't reach the Capital before Winter.

The British in North Africa had to learn the same lesson, the only way to deal with Rommel was to fall back massive distance every time he got the upper hand in an attempt to overstretch their supply lines and sure up ones own defences.

So the only way to deal with Blitzkrieg is with geography. And Poland in 1939 was between a rock and a hard place.

You can always count on at least one poor soul on the internet that can't take a joke.

I knew it was a joke.

But I know not everyone else would take it that way.

 

[Treblaine]

...Except that I have a laptop. So that $60 just became $2500. So, yeah...

Daaaauuu... huh?

I've just shown you two graphics cards - the single most expensive component - that cost less than $80. Now you're pulling this $2'500 figure out of the air?

I think they were trying to say that they have to buy a whole new machine to play the game. You can't just switch out graphics cards on a laptop.

Did I not give an example of a capable gaming PC that costs less than $400, actually around $375?

The $2'500 figure is pure "weasel words" to denigrate PC gaming.

 

[GeorgW]

Too bad that it's exclusive PC, otherwise I'd have been interested. But for those with a up to date PC, seems like a fun game. Of course, it's impossible to tell right now, but I prefer to be optimistic with these sort of things.

Graphics cards are cheap and powerful.

For the cost of a single console game you can get something like an AMD 5670 that'll play Crysis on High settings.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2917/5

Or the GT440

And if you're about to say "but when I play $60 for a consoel game I get a game"

Well just considering PC gamign you get access to a load of free games:
-Team Fortress 2
-Alien Swarm
-FEAR Combat
-League of Legends
-Savage 2: A tortured Soul
-Wolfenstein: enemy territory
-Trackmania nations Forever
-Half Life 2: deathmatch
-Spiral Knights
-Global Agenda

Hell, there are more than I can even remember, this site complies a lot of them:

http://www.freepcgamers.com/2008/03/free-fps-first-person-shooter-games.html

...Except that I have a laptop. So that $60 just became $2500. So, yeah...

Daaaauuu... huh?

I've just shown you two graphics cards - the single most expensive component - that cost less than $80. Now you're pulling this $2'500 figure out of the air?

A gaming PC capable of playing this game DOES NOT cost $2'500 and I find it defamatory for you to imply it does. But hardly unsurprising, every time people hear about a PC exclusive all the bitterness bubbles to the surface and they all look for a place to stick the knife in. Price is the classic one. After all it's a platform friendly to indy developers, free from onerous membership fees or overpriced games - yeah, best slander that by implying it is for a rich elite.

http://www.informatics-tech.com/build-a-cheap-400-dollar-gaming-computer-2011.html

That's a $400 gaming PC and that's an old build, there are better components for the same price or the same components cheaper.

A PS3 250GB is $400. Xbox 360 250GB is $299 but then you have to pay $60 up front for online and again every year.

Face it, the real thing standing in the way of PC gaming is not price; it is will.

On console EVERYTHING is controlled, you are denied choice and freedom and way too many people like to be so constrained and told what they are going to get, rather than deciding for themselves.

Developers like these couldn't make a game like this on console if they wanted to. Look what happened to People Can Fly when they got sucked into the console-development machine, they got totally whored out now they are a shadow of their former self.

Why am I acting like this? Because again a pro-PC story and surprise surprise the first two comments are "aww, PC exclusive. Why can't it be dumbed down for consoles? :C"

Ok, now you've insulted me. When the hell did I say that I wanted it dumbed down or that I didn't like PC gaming or that I for that matter doesn't play PC games. Ok, so I pulled the 2500 number out of my ass, I was just illustrating a point that laptops are expensive to customize compared to stationary. Sometimes I like to exaggerate to to prove a point. And there's a reason that I have a laptop, I like my laptop, I don't want a stationary computer. I play games on my laptop, it's got 7GB RAM with 1 GB dedicated to graphics. The thing is that I have problems running most new games smoothly because my graphics card is crap. That doesn't stop me from playing hundreds of indie games, cuz guess what, consolefags can appreciate and support indies as well. I also play old classics like Deus Ex and KOTOR. Those I can run perfectly well. I don't want a new computer cuz all I use my PC for is play indie and old games, you see, I have my consoles for new games.

I like not having to plug in my PC into my big TV every time, I like never having to optimize or download patches day one, I like the controls and not having to customize them every single time cuz they all assume I have an english qwerty keyboard (with the exception of the wii), I like having a big community to play with online, I like not having to find servers with the least few hundred pings since I don't have access to a high speed internet connection where I live but most of all, I like the exclusives. Maybe the only reason I have a wii, 360 and PS3 (and PSP and DS for that matter) is because I want to play all their exclusives, maybe I think since I already have all of those I don't need to pay yet another $400 for a gaming PC when the only PC exclusive that really interest me is Civ, and since it's turned based and I don't have to worry about lag, so I can still play that. Maybe you didn't consider that cuz you were busy branding me as some sort of moron just cuz I have different preferences than you when it comes to how I play games.

So, stop assuming that just cuz I haven't looked into how cheaply I can find a good computer that means I'm some sort of idiot that doesn't know how great 'the glorious PC master race' is, but maybe it's because I'm just not fucking interested. And also, this game looks boring as shit, and I wouldn't be playing it regardless. I love serious sam, and I'll seriously get the third, and they seem in the same vain, except that serious sam BFE seems like fun. I just didn't want to be so negative when it's still brand new and used my laptop as an excuse.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I wonder what the story will be. I hope it's interesting. I love me some good Sci-fi stories. Anyone got any links to any summaries or synopsis'?

 

[LookingGlass]

Well I still feel like I don't know anything about the game, but I'll continue following it. I didn't get enough continuous gameplay there to have any idea what was going on... so many cuts in such a short video.

 

[Treblaine]

Ok, now you've insulted me.

No I haven't. I have criticised you.

When the hell did I say that I wanted it dumbed down or that I didn't like PC gaming or that I for that matter doesn't play PC games.

Bulletstorm. That's what I mean by games going to consoles.

I play games on my laptop, it's got 7GB RAM with 1 GB dedicated to graphics.

Precisely what graphics card do you have? That sound like a very high-spec machine and most 1GB graphics cards are pretty powerful... could definitely play a game like this at better settings than on console. See console run games are REALLY low settings but somehow people accept that because it's got the giant Xbox logo everyone's rose tinted-glasses have 640p look like 1080p.

See, you have got to be smart about this, you can't just use the default settings or set everything to high and expect it to run perfectly. It is a simple little thing to adjust the settings for the right frame-rate.

all I use my PC for is play indie and old games, you see, I have my consoles for new games.

I like not having to plug in my PC into my big TV every time, I like never having to optimize or download patches day one, I like the controls and not having to customize them every single time cuz they all assume I have an english qwerty keyboard (with the exception of the wii), I like having a big community to play with online, I like not having to find servers with the least few hundred pings since I don't have access to a high speed internet connection where I live

-it's better to play ANY game on a smaller monitor at closer distance. Big monitor far away (same apparent size) is an extravagance only good for multiple viewers like couch co-op
-Steam auto-downloads patches, and consoles are the same with day-one patches or worse: no patches at all. It's also easy to keep updated with firmware updates, all you have to do is TRY!
-Customisation is bad? Oh what a horrible platform that lets me chose the best control layout(/sarc) It's 5 minutes for a significantly better game. It's far worse to struggle through a game with a fixed arbitrary control layout that isn't suitable.
-PC has no shortage of online community, I can always find full servers. And what would you know you only play new games on console.
-if you have bad internet for dedicated servers it will be DIABOLICAL for peer-to-peer online that console uses. The difference is that console games hide how bad it is but cause glitches. Again, what would you know.

This are a load of irrationally trivial excuses. And they are in no way balanced against the benefits of PC gaming. You aren't making a decision, you're gut has decided and now you are trying to rationalise.

but most of all, I like the exclusives. Maybe the only reason I have a wii, 360 and PS3 (and PSP and DS for that matter) is because I want to play all their exclusives, maybe I think since I already have all of those I don't need to pay yet another $400 for a gaming PC when the only PC exclusive that really interest me is Civ, and since it's turned based and I don't have to worry about lag, so I can still play that. Maybe you didn't consider that cuz you were busy branding me as some sort of moron just cuz I have different preferences than you when it comes to how I play games.

Really? You invested in FIVE different systems but not PC?

And you bought a 360 for exclusives... all 5 of them?

"Too bad that it's exclusive PC, otherwise I'd have been interested."

No, you're just like the fanboys who moan about another game coming out on Wii with "aww, why can't this game be on 360, I'm not getting a Wii for just one game" only they say it for so many games yet on each point "huughh, I'm only interested in like one exclusive, hmph!". Also failing to consider how the PC version is almost always the superior version. Black Ops is actually enjoyable on PC thanks to dedicated servers cutting out lag-compensation glitches.

I can see through this paper thin façade, YOU said you were interested in this game! You are just prejudiced against the platform.

Ok, so I pulled the 2500 number out of my ass
...
So, stop assuming that just cuz I haven't looked into how cheaply I can find a good computer that means I'm some sort of idiot that doesn't know how great 'the glorious PC master race' is, but maybe it's because I'm just not fucking interested. And also, this game looks boring as shit, and I wouldn't be playing it regardless.

Too bad that it's exclusive PC, otherwise I'd have been interested.

I think that I am right on the money with you.

Do not underestimate the power of brand marketing. How much superficial and irrational product placement and favourable presentation can make Xbox and PS3 seem way better than they actually are.
Example: you put coca cola in two bottles: one with the coca cola label and the other with a generic cola label. 9/10 taste testers will find the branded Coca Cola SIGNIFICANTLY better. And this is not just with drinks: it is with cars, operating systems, cookers, you name it. People who think they know cars swear blind that a car drives better even though all they did was stick a BMW badge on the wheel.

PC gaming doesn't have a billion dollar marketing department.

 

[Skorpyo]

Ok, I was really excited for this game, but now I'm a little worried... one of those guns looked a lot like one from Dreamkiller, which was... well... lets just say poorly designed...

They also look a lot like the ones from Painkiller, which was excellent.

Between the game-play I see, the visuals, AND the weaponry, I'm going to say that they're trying to resurrect Painkiller. I'm interested.

 

[Lordmarkus]

There's a health bar.

Day 1 purchase.

I don't know if I should feel sad or rejoice in the fact that I'm pre-ordering a game solely on the premise that it has a health bar instead of "BLOODY SCREEN!".

It looks like Painkiller and Painkiller fucking rocks. I just feel uneasy that this game will either be great, which means I can be smug again or it will suck and others will be smug against me.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Ok, I was really excited for this game, but now I'm a little worried... one of those guns looked a lot like one from Dreamkiller, which was... well... lets just say poorly designed...

They also look a lot like the ones from Painkiller, which was excellent.

Between the game-play I see, the visuals, AND the weaponry, I'm going to say that they're trying to resurrect Painkiller. I'm interested.

Dreamkiller was heavily based off Painkiller, too. But, this game is made by a Polish company, and those Polish really know how to make games, so I might be worried for nothing...

 

[GeorgW]

Ok, now you've insulted me.

No I haven't. I have criticised you.

When the hell did I say that I wanted it dumbed down or that I didn't like PC gaming or that I for that matter doesn't play PC games.

Bulletstorm. That's what I mean by games going to consoles.

I play games on my laptop, it's got 7GB RAM with 1 GB dedicated to graphics.

Precisely what graphics card do you have? That sound like a very high-spec machine and most 1GB graphics cards are pretty powerful... could definitely play a game like this at better settings than on console. See console run games are REALLY low settings but somehow people accept that because it's got the giant Xbox logo everyone's rose tinted-glasses have 640p look like 1080p.

See, you have got to be smart about this, you can't just use the default settings or set everything to high and expect it to run perfectly. It is a simple little thing to adjust the settings for the right frame-rate.

all I use my PC for is play indie and old games, you see, I have my consoles for new games.

I like not having to plug in my PC into my big TV every time, I like never having to optimize or download patches day one, I like the controls and not having to customize them every single time cuz they all assume I have an english qwerty keyboard (with the exception of the wii), I like having a big community to play with online, I like not having to find servers with the least few hundred pings since I don't have access to a high speed internet connection where I live

-it's better to play ANY game on a smaller monitor at closer distance. Big monitor far away (same apparent size) is an extravagance only good for multiple viewers like couch co-op
-Steam auto-downloads patches, and consoles are the same with day-one patches or worse: no patches at all. It's also easy to keep updated with firmware updates, all you have to do is TRY!
-Customisation is bad? Oh what a horrible platform that lets me chose the best control layout(/sarc) It's 5 minutes for a significantly better game. It's far worse to struggle through a game with a fixed arbitrary control layout that isn't suitable.
-PC has no shortage of online community, I can always find full servers. And what would you know you only play new games on console.
-if you have bad internet for dedicated servers it will be DIABOLICAL for peer-to-peer online that console uses. The difference is that console games hide how bad it is but cause glitches. Again, what would you know.

This are a load of irrationally trivial excuses. And they are in no way balanced against the benefits of PC gaming. You aren't making a decision, you're gut has decided and now you are trying to rationalise.

but most of all, I like the exclusives. Maybe the only reason I have a wii, 360 and PS3 (and PSP and DS for that matter) is because I want to play all their exclusives, maybe I think since I already have all of those I don't need to pay yet another $400 for a gaming PC when the only PC exclusive that really interest me is Civ, and since it's turned based and I don't have to worry about lag, so I can still play that. Maybe you didn't consider that cuz you were busy branding me as some sort of moron just cuz I have different preferences than you when it comes to how I play games.

Really? You invested in FIVE different systems but not PC?

And you bought a 360 for exclusives... all 5 of them?

"Too bad that it's exclusive PC, otherwise I'd have been interested."

No, you're just like the fanboys who moan about another game coming out on Wii with "aww, why can't this game be on 360, I'm not getting a Wii for just one game" only they say it for so many games yet on each point "huughh, I'm only interested in like one exclusive, hmph!". Also failing to consider how the PC version is almost always the superior version. Black Ops is actually enjoyable on PC thanks to dedicated servers cutting out lag-compensation glitches.

I can see through this paper thin façade, YOU said you were interested in this game! You are just prejudiced against the platform.

Ok, so I pulled the 2500 number out of my ass
...
So, stop assuming that just cuz I haven't looked into how cheaply I can find a good computer that means I'm some sort of idiot that doesn't know how great 'the glorious PC master race' is, but maybe it's because I'm just not fucking interested. And also, this game looks boring as shit, and I wouldn't be playing it regardless.

Too bad that it's exclusive PC, otherwise I'd have been interested.

I think that I am right on the money with you.

Do not underestimate the power of brand marketing. How much superficial and irrational product placement and favourable presentation can make Xbox and PS3 seem way better than they actually are.
Example: you put coca cola in two bottles: one with the coca cola label and the other with a generic cola label. 9/10 taste testers will find the branded Coca Cola SIGNIFICANTLY better. And this is not just with drinks: it is with cars, operating systems, cookers, you name it. People who think they know cars swear blind that a car drives better even though all they did was stick a BMW badge on the wheel.

PC gaming doesn't have a billion dollar marketing department.

Once again I feel insulted that you think I think higher of console gaming than PC gaming. It's the complete opposite, I just prefer to play some games on console. I recognize that PC gaming is better, I just don't want it. What is so wrong with having a different opinion than you and why can't you respect that?
Let's use your black ops example, I've played Black ops on both my laptop and my 360 (Omg, another huge surprise cuz you judged me from the first, admittedly wrong and I've already apologized for that, sentence I typed). I have 200 times as much ping on my laptop, and yes, I played on the server with the least lag that I could find. Only problem is that that server was in Germany and had 2000 ms ping. You see, less people play black ops on PC, and when you don't live in America, that's a problem. On the consoles I can always find someone in my country, which reduces lag significantly. For online games, ping is the most important for me when choosing which system to play it on, and I don't play multiplayer games on PC because of that. Also, all of my friends play on consoles, and guess what, I like my friends and want to play with them. I'm sure that's different for you, but that's the way my experience has been and it's turned me off multiplayer PC games completely.

Now, let's see some of your other points... I hated bulletstorm and loved painkiller. What about my posts made you think otherwise?
I have a Toshiba Satellite A660-1GC if you feel like checking out the specs, and I can play most games well if I tamper with the settings. However, as I said I refuse to play multiplayer games on my PC. As for single player games, for most I really don't see the difference. I don't count pixels or framerate, I just want to have fun when I play games. Sometimes I just prefer to play on my big screen TV on my couch. That may not be your thing, but I like it and you'll just have to accept that.

What I meant with day one patches was for my own software, not the game itself. Some games simply won't play on a computer without some serious fixes before. To give an example, to be able to play Magicka I had to go on the steam support forums for about an hour to find out what the problem was since I didn't get an error report, and then finally find out that my graphics card had locked it out and I had to manually force it to render it. If you want to take the time to fix that, fine, but sometimes I just want to sit down and play a new game as soon as I can and that bug pissed me off. Once again, we're just different there, and you don't have the right to say that your way is better.

I agree with you that customisation is the best tool that a game can have (that's why I have oblivion and other games like it for the PC), but to once again use magicka as an example I didn't realize until I started playing the game that some vital commands were routed to keys that my keyboard simply doesn't have (that's what I meant by assuming I have english qwerty). I couldn't continue and couldn't save until after the tutorial, and therefore had to replay the entire tutorial. Once again, may not be a big problem for you (if you're american you've probably never even known this was an issue) but it kinda turned me off the game when the first two hours I had the game was so annoying.

Okay, so you've got me, I have prejudices against the platform. But, I still stand by them, cuz my experiences are what's created them. I'm sure you had different ones, and that's great for you. You've embraced the superior platform, I've said from the beginning that that's what PC is, but I'm willing to accept my consoles' faults cuz I prefer it that way. Maybe we're just different that way.

 

[dryg]

Let's use your black ops example, I've played Black ops on both my laptop and my 360 (Omg, another huge surprise cuz you judged me from the first, admittedly wrong and I've already apologized for that, sentence I typed). I have 200 times as much ping on my laptop, and yes, I played on the server with the least lag that I could find. Only problem is that that server was in Germany and had 2000 ms ping. You see, less people play black ops on PC, and when you don't live in America, that's a problem. On the consoles I can always find someone in my country, which reduces lag significantly. For online games, ping is the most important for me when choosing which system to play it on, and I don't play multiplayer games on PC because of that. Also, all of my friends play on consoles, and guess what, I like my friends and want to play with them. I'm sure that's different for you, but that's the way my experience has been and it's turned me off multiplayer PC games completely.

Whaat, Sweden got one of the largest PC Gaming communities. There are hundreds of Swedish BlOps servers. I live in the far north and have never seen a Swedish server with 100ping or more.

I do have a xbox too, when playing with people from my town it's usually way worse than this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plzHrMZmcVE].

 

[GeorgW]

Let's use your black ops example, I've played Black ops on both my laptop and my 360 (Omg, another huge surprise cuz you judged me from the first, admittedly wrong and I've already apologized for that, sentence I typed). I have 200 times as much ping on my laptop, and yes, I played on the server with the least lag that I could find. Only problem is that that server was in Germany and had 2000 ms ping. You see, less people play black ops on PC, and when you don't live in America, that's a problem. On the consoles I can always find someone in my country, which reduces lag significantly. For online games, ping is the most important for me when choosing which system to play it on, and I don't play multiplayer games on PC because of that. Also, all of my friends play on consoles, and guess what, I like my friends and want to play with them. I'm sure that's different for you, but that's the way my experience has been and it's turned me off multiplayer PC games completely.

Whaat, Sweden got one of the largest PC Gaming communities. There are hundreds of Swedish BlOps servers. I live in the far north and have never seen a Swedish server with 100ping or more.

I do have a xbox too, when playing with people from my town it's usually way worse than this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plzHrMZmcVE].

Huh, that's weird. Maybe it was just a bad day for the game... Or my internet is just that bad

 

[Treblaine]

Once again I feel insulted that you think I think higher of console gaming than PC gaming. It's the complete opposite, I just prefer to play some games on console. I recognize that PC gaming is better, I just don't want it. What is so wrong with having a different opinion than you and why can't you respect that?
Let's use your black ops example, I've played Black ops on both my laptop and my 360 (Omg, another huge surprise cuz you judged me from the first, admittedly wrong and I've already apologized for that, sentence I typed). I have 200 times as much ping on my laptop, and yes, I played on the server with the least lag that I could find. Only problem is that that server was in Germany and had 2000 ms ping.

I do not believe you. Either you are mistaken or making a gross exaggeration... again.

200x worse means that you are getting a ping of only 10 Milliseconds on 360! That is ridiculously low and on 360 it doesn't even tell you if you have 100ms or 1ms, it just has that useless mobile-phone bar thing.

In fact you could only do that if you were the host which is a complete cheat as everyone else who connects TO YOU will have a massive ping! What kind of ping do you get when you are not the host?

You claim you cannot find a single Black Ops server in all of Scandinavia? Closest one is in Germany? I actually know for a fact that there are Black Ops servers in Sweden:

http://www.gametracker.com/search/blackops/SE/

You see, less people play black ops on PC, and when you don't live in America, that's a problem. On the consoles I can always find someone in my country, which reduces lag significantly. For online games, ping is the most important for me when choosing which system to play it on, and I don't play multiplayer games on PC because of that. Also, all of my friends play on consoles, and guess what, I like my friends and want to play with them. I'm sure that's different for you, but that's the way my experience has been and it's turned me off multiplayer PC games completely.

Ah, the self-fulfilling prophecy of "my friends play on console so I play on console"

That guarantees that whoever has market share now will NEVER lose it. Imagine if people did that with all things, they wouldn't use something if most of the people they knew also used it, nothing would ever improve.

Now, let's see some of your other points... I hated bulletstorm and loved painkiller. What about my posts made you think otherwise?

Surely you realise how badly the developers went after getting sucked into the console development machine. Those market forces destroy great games trying to be like the few big sellers and failing badly.

I have a Toshiba Satellite A660-1GC if you feel like checking out the specs, and I can play most games well if I tamper with the settings.

You don't know your own specs? By the way the graphics card you have outperforms the xbox 360.

The problem I think is you are tricked by consoles into believing they run games as well as PC does. The reality is games like Halo 3 are a measly 640p resolution and struggle to maintain 30fps and with no anti-aliasing.

As for single player games, for most I really don't see the difference. I don't count pixels or framerate, I just want to have fun when I play games.

Well, you should. You don't have to be able to count the pixels to be impacted by lower resolution. Same with frame-rate, the difference between 30 and 60fps will affect how much fun you have even if you can't tell just by looking at it. That's for how the brain processes vision feedback.

Sometimes I just prefer to play on my big screen TV on my couch. That may not be your thing, but I like it and you'll just have to accept that.

Do you like that because of a genuine preference or because of the endless product placement selling the "console way" as the way to play games.

HDTV has so many disadvantages:
-added cost and power consumption
-occupies so much space
-denies a TV for group/social use for an individual's game
-TV speakers much harder to track sound than with Monitor + headset
-HDTVs consistently have worse input lag than Monitors, to quite a severe extent
-inflexible resolution support
-must be viewed from a distance where it is harder to focus on detail for that pixel-perfect precision

The problem I think for you is you are comparing a laptop screen with a HDTV. A big 24-inch monitor with 1080p resolution I can actually make use of that high resolution.

What I meant with day one patches was for my own software, not the game itself. Some games simply won't play on a computer without some serious fixes before. To give an example, to be able to play Magicka I had to go on the steam support forums for about an hour to find out what the problem was since I didn't get an error report, and then finally find out that my graphics card had locked it out and I had to manually force it to render it. If you want to take the time to fix that, fine, but sometimes I just want to sit down and play a new game as soon as I can and that bug pissed me off. Once again, we're just different there, and you don't have the right to say that your way is better.

Well a game like Magicka is on PC and not on XBL for a reason. The console system chews up talented developers and whores them out. Plus the simple fact that the game they are trying to make couldn't even be made on console for the restrictions of the platform.

LEARN FROM BULLETSTORM!

I agree with you that customisation is the best tool that a game can have (that's why I have oblivion and other games like it for the PC), but to once again use magicka as an example I didn't realize until I started playing the game that some vital commands were routed to keys that my keyboard simply doesn't have (that's what I meant by assuming I have english qwerty). I couldn't continue and couldn't save until after the tutorial, and therefore had to replay the entire tutorial. Once again, may not be a big problem for you (if you're american you've probably never even known this was an issue) but it kinda turned me off the game when the first two hours I had the game was so annoying.

It's a bit rich you implying American Hegemony when Magicka is a game entirely developed by Swedes in Sweden - your native land. You English is excellent by the way, why don't you have a Qwerty keyboard?

This game is an extreme example, it was a very small developer's very first game and it had a bad launch, it has been quite well patched now.

I'd much rather have a great game on PC that has teething problems (that ear easily fixed)...

... than mediocre trash on console that runs reliably but with design elements that are unfixable.

 

[mcx]

Oh look another crap FPS, but since it's only on PC it haz too be gud rite? xD