Personally, I'm a believer that Boba Fett was dead in the minds of the creators until he became such a fan favorite character. Due to do many people liking him, he "miraculously" was still alive.
Has the ending of a story ever been rewritten due to a negative fan reaction?
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I screwed up at the end of my previous post. I meant to quote the fellow who mentioned The Green Lantern and linked to a couple episodes of The Big Picture. Sorry if it was confusing why I suddenly mentioned comics.The_root_of_all_evil said:
The reason why I said the Star Wars thing isn't really the same is due to why it changed. Was a negative fan reaction the driving force behind the changes? If it was, I don't remember it being so. Also, if it was so, I need to find every single person who thought Hayden Christenson needed to be in Return of the Jedi. I definitely agree the changes are awful, which is why I still watch the movies on the VHS tapes I had as a kid. Though I think those still have a good many changes from the original (I think the tapes were from 1997).
Is this the kind of thing you'd want to see come to gaming, though? "New endings! Something to please everyone! Only 1200 Microsoft Points!"
I'm an optimist, but not so much of one that I don't see that sort of thing happening.
Not too sure but I believe that fan reaction had some influence on the eventual ending of the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion.
And then something from this very website, which I think fits the bill:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3390-Going-Green-Part-I
And then something from this very website, which I think fits the bill:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3390-Going-Green-Part-I
It's a bit of a sticky subject all in all.
On one hand, an artist should never feel they need to compromise THEIR vision of the work, as they are the creator; it's ultimately their own thing. But once you have fans you do owe a certain responsibility to them. That doesn't necessarily mean pandering or changing a story just to keep them happy, but you have to keep in mind why your fans like your creation in the first place.
I haven't even completed ME2 yet (got it on sale last month) so I probably won't be able to comment on 3 for a good while yet. Given I buy it at all, considering how many people seem to feel shafted by the ending(s).
On one hand, an artist should never feel they need to compromise THEIR vision of the work, as they are the creator; it's ultimately their own thing. But once you have fans you do owe a certain responsibility to them. That doesn't necessarily mean pandering or changing a story just to keep them happy, but you have to keep in mind why your fans like your creation in the first place.
I haven't even completed ME2 yet (got it on sale last month) so I probably won't be able to comment on 3 for a good while yet. Given I buy it at all, considering how many people seem to feel shafted by the ending(s).
I wouldn't give up on the game entirely, the lead up is actually (imo) the best of the 3 games by far. Also, there are already some interpretations of the game (that while not confirmed as being intended in anyway) have actually satisfied some of the negative reaction.3quency said:
With regards to OP, it is actually difficult subject. Fallout 3 did it, but I wouldn't take that as indication that many developers ever even consider the option no matter how their game is received. Additionally with the Sherlock books, yes he did eventually change his mind of the subject, but there was a lot of pressure there (still beyond the me3 reaction), and it didn't technically bar him from writing what he wanted in addition (even if time was a crunch). Bioware has at least hinted at wanting to continue the universe beyond the trilogy, so clearly they believe the current ending sets the stage for what they want to do, making changes even more unlikely.
Don't let it dissuade you from playing the third game. It's pretty brilliant aside from the last ten minutes.3quency said:
Yes, this was mentioned early in the thread. I looked it up, and it's similar but different. From what I read, it sounds like the "offending" book wasn't changed, but was retconned later by a different book. Howevever, I think the spirit of the retcon is in line with what I'm talking about in this thread: Negative fan reaction brought it about.Fiad said:
Ugh...Deception. Yeah, I guess it counts. But that guy had no business writing for the Mass Effect universe. I love how a major character just "grew out" of autism, and was also the wrong age anyway.Soviet Heavy said:
They do it with movies a lot. When they show premieres/critic screenings they take in the reaction to everything. So my best example would be in the movie Leon: The Professional:
However due to the awkward talk scene making all the critics uncomfortable, they cut it, and when every hated the ending they changed it. But these were done after the movie had already been made and gone into print. So it kind of counts for what you mean.
There were originally scenes where Matilda talks to Leon about sex and asks him if he has ever had sex and wonders if she will da-da-da-da...you see where I'm going with this. But, the original ending called for Matilda to kill the detective while being shot to death.
"Has the ending of a story ever been rewritten due to negative fan reaction?"
That's basically Marvel comics in a nutshell.
That's basically Marvel comics in a nutshell.
That book is pure genius, love it.The_root_of_all_evil said:Also this:
The Beeb thought it too harsh.
On Topic: I guess the only example I've ever heard of is that whole Sherlock Holmes thing.
He probably spent too much time with Matt Ward and did a Khornate Grey Knights on it. That is something that should be fired out of the fucking continuity and canon with a cannon.Sandytimeman said:
OT: The only one I had was Sherlock Holmes and that has already been mentioned I had another in mind but it has escaped me since writing this.
I haven't read through this entire thread, but I'm assuming Evangelion got mentioned at least a billion times.
I'm not sure if this was before or after the book was published, but Great Expectations originally ended with Pip staying single because Dickens thought it was too cheesy/ cliché to make them marry. This then got changed to an implied marriage[footnote]He still thought it was too cliché for him to explicitly say they got married.[/footnote] after people said it was too depressing.
Highlander 2! It had like 4 fan edits and I think the studio re-released it heavily edited on dvd years later.
and Twilight/Breaking Dawn while we're at it. I haven't read it but I heard Breaking Dawn was written because the fan girls wanted more
-Somebody already mentioned Sherlock Holmes and Fallout 3 ^those were the only other 2 examples I could think of.
and Twilight/Breaking Dawn while we're at it. I haven't read it but I heard Breaking Dawn was written because the fan girls wanted more
-Somebody already mentioned Sherlock Holmes and Fallout 3 ^those were the only other 2 examples I could think of.
Fallout 3 Broken Steel and with movies before they released Fatal Attraction it was going to end with Glenn Close killing herself, but when they showed to a select few they did like it so they reshot a new ending with Glenn Close being killed by Anne Archer who played Micheal Douglas' wife. There are others they just happen with movies more than games. I still think they should change the ending to ME3.