Has there ever been a GOOD film Prequel?

[Plazmatic]

Star wars episode 2 was the most amazing prequel ever.

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Episode 3 was also really good.

Casino Royale, Star Trek (2009), Batman Begins. They're good.

The new star trek was not a prequel, it was an different story line a different universe kind of thing.

Batman begins was good though (well so were the other two movies you mentioned) and was a good prequel.

 

[Plazmatic]

sry double post

 

[Captain Blackout]

Does 'Batman begins' count as a prequel?

Yes. It's based on "Batman Year One" to a significant degree, which is a prequel.

EDIT: And to those not paying near enough attention: Reboots of prequels, prior stories written as prequels, etc. etc. etc. are prequels.

A prequel is a work that supplements a previously completed one, and has an earlier time setting.

The Terminator movies make it interesting. T4 qualifies as a prequel, and not, because it depends on which time line you're watching.

Trying to pigeon hole your definition of prequel so you can make your point, bogus. Language is based on use, not your personal defintion.

Ok, I haven't seen T4, but I remember one line from the trailers that I think debunks it as a prequel. The line where John Conner says "This isn't the future my mother described." ...or something to that effect. That line implies that the film is taking place after T3 and is focusing on a John Conner that has already lived through having 2 robot killing machines travel back in time from the future and try and kill him. If it were a prequel, Conner would have no knowledge of any of that and thus would have no reason to give a line like that.

Except it is a prequel in as far as Kyle Reese is concerned. Just because it isn't the future his mother described doesn't make it no longer the prior history of those characters. The basic assumption is that because there are changes to one's past, it's no longer the proper past. Once you involve time travel, you can throw that out. Retcons just become more flexible.

 

[Sneaky-Pie]

Red Dragon. I actually like it way more than Silence of the Lambs.

 

[oppp7]

I can barely think of any prequels as it is. Give me a list.
Edit: According to Wikipedia: Star Wars Trilogy, Good, Bad, and Ugly, and the Hobbit are some. They seemed alright(although I'm just guessing the Hobbit is good because I liked the book more than the LoTR books and I LOVED the LoTR movies).

 

[thenumberthirteen]

Casino Royale, Star Trek (2009), Batman Begins. They're good.

The new star trek was not a prequel, it was an different story line a different universe kind of thing.

Read the rest of the topic before replying you're the 7th person to say the exact same thing. And it is a prequel as it is set before the other films and has the same characters in it. In my mind that's a prequel.

 

[Powderedhippo]

In theory Terminator 4 is actually a prequal of what happened before Terminator 1.
I know it's in the future, but also in the time travel past or something. Time travel makes thing complicated.

It wasnt very good though.

But how could Connor be there if Kyle was still there...
Owwwww...
My...
Head...
Time travel.....

 

[gim73]

Godfather 2 was half and half, I am not going to count that I'm sorry. (EDIT: I should clarify that I mean it is half sequel half prequel so I don't want to count it, if you count this there are a heck of a lot more sequels that you could now categorize as prequels just because of heavy flashbacks. PS: GF2 is one of my top 5 fave movies).
Rise of the Lycans... ain't exactly Shakespeare and I am a movie snob. But I am sure it was better than Underworld 2, that was horrible. I didn't even like the first one come to think of it :S
Casino Royale was a reboot.
Temple of Doom I acknowledged and called for the /thread
Star Wars prequels.... THEY ARE WIDELY DESPISED. Sure some people like them but I really think that it is too disputed that they are "good". Therefore I will not count them.

Of course this is my opinion, but a good majority of fans prefer the original trilogy to the prequels.

The only one i actually disagree with there is Casino Royale, it is a sequel to the previous films chronilogically set before all of them. Just because they changed the actor playing Bond does not mean the series was re-booted. For example; Sean Connery and Daniel Craig, both play the EXACT same Bond, just set at different times. The same way that the star wars prequels weren't reboots however the characters were portrayed by different actors.

And i originally thought you meant no one had suggested ANY prequels... not just good ones

I take back my anal statement

Hehe it's all good. Couple good prequels have come to light. Be very hard to go against the majority of people and call Temple of Doom bad.

Casino Royale, I'll pay it. I haven't seen the film recently enough but I thought they retconned some things, but yeah, I saw it when it came out and that's it. You are 100% right though that the actor doesn't matter.

Can I make a joke suggestion and throw out Scorpion King 2? That movie was so fucking awful I want to cry (it was a prequel). Oh god it really makes me sick thinking about it. Not that Scorpion King 1 was award winning, but it was at least a lot of fun and they just don't make many movies like that anymore. Bring back sword and sorcery movies! I want more Scorpion Kings, Conans, etc. You know, Hercules live action TV show in movie form type stuff! Cheezy dialogue, shitty costumes, little to no special effects. MORE!

Okay I'm off topic so I am shutting up now.

I agree, more sword and sorcery stuff! Well, I guess we do have Legend of the Seeker, which is loosely based off of the Sword of Truth series, but the entire thing feels alot like Hercules/Xena.

The new Star Trek can't even be called a prequel because it's an alternate timeline. When you remove Kirks dad as a presence in his life, it changes the character. I enjoyed it and hope they make more in this crazy alternate timeline.

Star Wars episode 1 could rightfully be called the greatest dissapointment of human history. In no way shape or form is this a good prequel, movie or even a decent joke. Most fanfiction would be better than episode 1.

For movies, prequels are usually so much crap. Anime, on the other hand has quite a few series that get a movie that is actually a prequel and that works out just fine.

 

[Ekonk]

Casino Royale was good.

 

[shadyh8er]

Does 'Batman begins' count as a prequel?

Some people prefer to call it a reboot, some, a prequel. I don't know, it could go either way.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Does 'Batman begins' count as a prequel?

Yes. It's based on "Batman Year One" to a significant degree, which is a prequel.

EDIT: And to those not paying near enough attention: Reboots of prequels, prior stories written as prequels, etc. etc. etc. are prequels.

A prequel is a work that supplements a previously completed one, and has an earlier time setting.

The Terminator movies make it interesting. T4 qualifies as a prequel, and not, because it depends on which time line you're watching.

Trying to pigeon hole your definition of prequel so you can make your point, bogus. Language is based on use, not your personal defintion.

Ok, I haven't seen T4, but I remember one line from the trailers that I think debunks it as a prequel. The line where John Conner says "This isn't the future my mother described." ...or something to that effect. That line implies that the film is taking place after T3 and is focusing on a John Conner that has already lived through having 2 robot killing machines travel back in time from the future and try and kill him. If it were a prequel, Conner would have no knowledge of any of that and thus would have no reason to give a line like that.

Except it is a prequel in as far as Kyle Reese is concerned. Just because it isn't the future his mother described doesn't make it no longer the prior history of those characters. The basic assumption is that because there are changes to one's past, it's no longer the proper past. Once you involve time travel, you can throw that out. Retcons just become more flexible.

Except you forget that in the original future, Judgment Day was supposed to occur on Aug. 5 1997. If T4 was a prequel, we would be looking at the future where it did occur on Aug 5 1997. Kyle Reese's perspective is irrelevant. The only thing that still casts doubt on any of this is the fact that there's a temporal paradox involved. This is why time travel is a very delicate story telling mechanic and must be handled as such; and I think the Terminator people let it get away from them.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Casino Royale, Star Trek (2009), Batman Begins. They're good.

Sorry but Star Trek 2009 and Batman begins were reboots not prequels.

Wasn't Casino Royale a reboot to?

 

[WorldCritic]

Even though a lot of people didn't like I actually liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

 

[skystryke]

As long as I'm not messing up the chronology then I believe Red Dragon was a prequel to both Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal. Also Hannibal Rising was a prequel to all three movies I mentioned. Sorry if either were already said but I consider both to be good prequels.

Edit: Ok, I was ninja'd by a few people but I stand by my point.

 

[Raven's Nest]

Do you know what could possibly be good?

A MATRIX PREQUEL!!

Yes, controversial I know... But here me out...

No super neo flying around taking the piss. No Morpheus as a pretentious religious cult leader. More Tank and Cypher, no awful Trinity + Neo romance plot. Ah hell, might as well go no Keanu Reeves too.

The plot could be the forming of Morpheus's original team and how they became infamous and bad-ass... What's not to like?

Basically less of this...

And more of this...

 

[Captain Blackout]

Except you forget that in the original future, Judgment Day was supposed to occur on Aug. 5 1997. If T4 was a prequel, we would be looking at the future where it did occur on Aug 5 1997. Kyle Reese's perspective is irrelevant. The only thing that still casts doubt on any of this is the fact that there's a temporal paradox involved. This is why time travel is a very delicate story telling mechanic and must be handled as such; and I think the Terminator people let it get away from them.

Ok, you're right, they did let the story get away from them. Except it happened back in #2. However, consider you have both the humans and the machines time travelling, there's no telling how many aborted missions/timelines there could have been, and paradox is the least of your issues.

That being said, Kyle Reese is still John Conner's genetic father. Perspective can be more than just viewpoint. Imagine a manifold of possible timelines. Some actualize, some don't. Some un-actualize as others push them out of the way. Some overlap. Etc. etc. etc. There is still a thread through those timelines, from Reese to Conner. How that thread started? I'm guessing the machines, because time travelling aware machines is just a fractured reality waiting to happen.

Which brings us to the heart of the thesis: Fry, through his past nastification, is his own prequel.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

Batman Begins.

That is all.

How is that a prequel? It wasn't made as a back story to previous films, it was the start of a new series.

I would have to say... Batman: Mask of Phantasm. It was made after the animated series and set before, it had a good story and filled you in on the choices he had to make when he became the Dark Knight.

 

[Yureina]

Hlaf of The Godfather Part 2 was a prequel, so I'm going to say that.

Yeah, gonna have to agree with this one. That was a great freaking film.

 

[Super Toast]

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - it gets a lot of undeserved hate, in my opinion. Sure, Willie and Short Round are annoying as all hell, but I really liked the fact that it was a lot darker than the others. Since Raiders is a balance between action and humour, and Last Crusade is played almost entirely for laughs, I think Temple of Doom rounds out the trilogy quite nicely. The set design is absolutely incredible as well.

Also, chilled monkey brains.

OT: Unlike many people, I enjoyed The Lion King 3. In fact, it is a staple of my childhood.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

Does 'Batman begins' count as a prequel?

Yes. It's based on "Batman Year One" to a significant degree, which is a prequel.

EDIT: And to those not paying near enough attention: Reboots of prequels, prior stories written as prequels, etc. etc. etc. are prequels.

A prequel is a work that supplements a previously completed one, and has an earlier time setting.

The Terminator movies make it interesting. T4 qualifies as a prequel, and not, because it depends on which time line you're watching.

Trying to pigeon hole your definition of prequel so you can make your point, bogus. Language is based on use, not your personal defintion.

I disagree, a prequel is made after the already started point of a story. Batman Begins is not a prequel, due to the fact it begins a new story.

Just because it's in a franchise does not change this fact, otherwise by that logic, anything started in a franchise is technically a prequel.

It supplements a previous completed one if that is its intent, but Batman Begins follows a separate time line to the Burton ones etc. It doesn't happen the same, his parents killer was a different person, that already told us it wasn't a prequel.