Has videogame violence affected you?
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Eheh, sad, sad thing I have to point out here, humans have to kill to live, period. Those plants your eating? They be dead now. They were alive at one point, by all definition, and now that they're not growing, they're essentially dead.Gavmando said:
I think the only thing in the world that doesn't kill to live is plants, and even then they obliterate diseases that would kill them off. In most cases anyways.
Anyways, first in the morning "Off topic grim-dark" over. On a bright side though, those plants grew up knowing they'd be eaten, if not by us, then by the wildlife in the area. I suppose that's why plants haven't evolved to eat us yet. (please, please, please don't let this post cause the rise of the triffids >_<)
Just the other day after a particularly long session of some old school Grand Theft Auto 3 I decided I needed to make a run to the gas station to pick up a Slurpee and a bag o chips. On my walk there it dawned on me I forgot my wallet. Well I was already a few blocks from home and turning back seemed kind of silly so I just beat down some random passer by and got the $4.34 I needed for my Slurpee and chips that way.
However, as luck would have it about half way there the weather took a turn for the worse and dammit all if it didn't start raining. Well walking in the rain just right out sucks so naturally I did the only sensible thing and walked up to a car I saw was stopped at the nearest intersection, opened the driver side door, threw the driver out on his ass and commandeered myself a nice dry ride to the corner mart.
Again, fate intervened as I was just about to the store when I passed by a lovely "working girl". Seeing as I had far more than what I needed after my altercation where I relieved that nice fellow of his wallet I decided I may as well pick her up and enjoy the fruits of her labor. After conducting our business in a nearby alley I thanked her for her service as she left my freshly stolen car. As she was walking away however it dawned on me that if I were to run her over I could retrieve the money I paid her plus any additional money she may have from her lifeless body. Naturally I did just that.
Well as luck would have it a cop witnessed me running down the unfortunate hooker with my stolen car so I had to make a break for it. Doing the only sensible thing I could think of I sped leaving a bloody trail of mowed down pedestrians in my wake. Fortunately a few blocks away I found a shop that specialized in repairing and painting automobiles. Sadly for me it took all my hard earned money to pay for the fresh coat of paint so while I was free from police pursuit I never did get my Slurpee and chips. Dammit!
However, as luck would have it about half way there the weather took a turn for the worse and dammit all if it didn't start raining. Well walking in the rain just right out sucks so naturally I did the only sensible thing and walked up to a car I saw was stopped at the nearest intersection, opened the driver side door, threw the driver out on his ass and commandeered myself a nice dry ride to the corner mart.
Again, fate intervened as I was just about to the store when I passed by a lovely "working girl". Seeing as I had far more than what I needed after my altercation where I relieved that nice fellow of his wallet I decided I may as well pick her up and enjoy the fruits of her labor. After conducting our business in a nearby alley I thanked her for her service as she left my freshly stolen car. As she was walking away however it dawned on me that if I were to run her over I could retrieve the money I paid her plus any additional money she may have from her lifeless body. Naturally I did just that.
Well as luck would have it a cop witnessed me running down the unfortunate hooker with my stolen car so I had to make a break for it. Doing the only sensible thing I could think of I sped leaving a bloody trail of mowed down pedestrians in my wake. Fortunately a few blocks away I found a shop that specialized in repairing and painting automobiles. Sadly for me it took all my hard earned money to pay for the fresh coat of paint so while I was free from police pursuit I never did get my Slurpee and chips. Dammit!
To an extent, I find this true.Mr Thin said:
I remember play Manhunt 1 when it first came out and first the gruesome kill scenes really freaked me out. The more I played the less horrified I was by them, though I disturb by my own not caring.
No, and if you even suggest that again, I'll tear your face off and shove it up your ass then beat you to death with your own severed arms.
I don't know if playing violent video games has made me more sensitive to violence or if it's just something that I've grown older with, or the state of my hormones and very real possibility of being the target of some pretty bad violence. Since all of this is just part of my life, I can't separate what the causes are.
I have never been a violent person. Even as a child I didn't like to get into fights, and when friends would go out hunting I could never go with them. I would never hurt anything larger than a bug unless it was a life or death situation. So I developed these ideas long before video games became violent the way they are now. The worst violence got back then was watching a vaguely human like bunch of pixels exploded into smaller pixels. Certainly not the highly detailed human like models used today...
I have never been a violent person. Even as a child I didn't like to get into fights, and when friends would go out hunting I could never go with them. I would never hurt anything larger than a bug unless it was a life or death situation. So I developed these ideas long before video games became violent the way they are now. The worst violence got back then was watching a vaguely human like bunch of pixels exploded into smaller pixels. Certainly not the highly detailed human like models used today...
Given that I grew up on war films (the more violent the better, you can blame my old man for that) and then war-themed games (CoD, MoH, Wolfenstein etc.) the most it bleeds into real life is the sadistic grin that grows on my face whenever I see weapon. So, I'd call that a resounding no.
Anyways, the only people we need to worry about are those that can't compartmentalise the two concepts.
My $0.02
Anyways, the only people we need to worry about are those that can't compartmentalise the two concepts.
My $0.02
My opinion on this matter is rather hazy so bare with me and try and make something of it.
Firstly, in some ways I AGREE that violence in videogames CAN make people violent. Perhaps not physically or by buying a gun and shooting someone, but verbally. I have always believed that people saying someone killing another person due to playing video games is dumb. Me killing AI computer people in a game does not make me want to do it in real life, but I have been very verbal to my parents when I was younger playing violent and FRUSTRATING games like Call of Duty.
I used to shout, throw my controller, be short tempered and become very blunt and verbally aggressive when I used to play Call of Duty. Not so much CoD1,2,3,4 or W@W, but deffinitly on MW2 and BO. These games made me compete, and as I believe myself to be a very good player, getting killed in some un-fair or unbalanced way whilst trying to use weaker weapons or something new made me become extremely FRUSTRATED. It wasn't the violence in the game, it was the FRUSTRATION and ANGER that came with playing the game ONLINE.
I have since stopped playing Call of Duty. I reached 10th prestige on all but 2 (W@W and BO) and when I hit 7th on BO after playing 4 months, I realised, I can't do with this stress anymore. I quit about 4 months ago and haven't had a single argument with my mum, dad or girlfriend and I have since played exculsively Single player and co-operative with minute amounts of online MP with friends FOR FUN and I have become a new person. I now watch movies, play lots of different games, read, draw and am currently teaching myself everything I need to become part of the Games Industry and I can happily say I am on my way.
So in answer to the topic, no, I don't believe Violent Games make people Violent.
I DO however KNOW that extremely competetive ONLINE games are FRUSTRATING, STRESSFUL and make people ANGRY when they are playing, whether they are casual or hardcore and I am becoming more and more against LEADERBOARDS and STATS and I feel that KILLS AND DEATHS SHOULD BE HIDDEN in games so that people can ENJOY them and not become FRUSTRATED.
Thanks for reading my input, sorry for the wall.
Firstly, in some ways I AGREE that violence in videogames CAN make people violent. Perhaps not physically or by buying a gun and shooting someone, but verbally. I have always believed that people saying someone killing another person due to playing video games is dumb. Me killing AI computer people in a game does not make me want to do it in real life, but I have been very verbal to my parents when I was younger playing violent and FRUSTRATING games like Call of Duty.
I used to shout, throw my controller, be short tempered and become very blunt and verbally aggressive when I used to play Call of Duty. Not so much CoD1,2,3,4 or W@W, but deffinitly on MW2 and BO. These games made me compete, and as I believe myself to be a very good player, getting killed in some un-fair or unbalanced way whilst trying to use weaker weapons or something new made me become extremely FRUSTRATED. It wasn't the violence in the game, it was the FRUSTRATION and ANGER that came with playing the game ONLINE.
I have since stopped playing Call of Duty. I reached 10th prestige on all but 2 (W@W and BO) and when I hit 7th on BO after playing 4 months, I realised, I can't do with this stress anymore. I quit about 4 months ago and haven't had a single argument with my mum, dad or girlfriend and I have since played exculsively Single player and co-operative with minute amounts of online MP with friends FOR FUN and I have become a new person. I now watch movies, play lots of different games, read, draw and am currently teaching myself everything I need to become part of the Games Industry and I can happily say I am on my way.
So in answer to the topic, no, I don't believe Violent Games make people Violent.
I DO however KNOW that extremely competetive ONLINE games are FRUSTRATING, STRESSFUL and make people ANGRY when they are playing, whether they are casual or hardcore and I am becoming more and more against LEADERBOARDS and STATS and I feel that KILLS AND DEATHS SHOULD BE HIDDEN in games so that people can ENJOY them and not become FRUSTRATED.
Thanks for reading my input, sorry for the wall.
most certainly...not 
and i keep looking for more violent games, but doesnt get me more violent IRL.
and i keep looking for more violent games, but doesnt get me more violent IRL.In my college class on the 1960's, he showed the class a clip from Apocolypse Now. In the scene, a soldier unloads his machine gun onto a boat filled with civilians, killing them. Everyone in the class watched in silence, perhaps with disgust, or perhaps with no reaction at all.
However...when one of the soldiers pulls a puppy out of the wreckage of the boat, and the puppy whines in fear, nearly EVERYONE in the class reacted in outrage and fear.
We can understand violence among humans because at this point in history, we are exposed to it on virtually every level. Violence in media back then was considered shocking because it wasn't commonplace. However, that small little puppy crying out in fear of violence rejuvenates the true nature of what violence is. The puppy has done nothing, the puppy is innocent. Taking violent action against a puppy is unforgivable. However, taking violent action against a modern-day human is now viewed as acceptable, because humans now understand all the social, emotional, and national reasons for violence.
In short, humanity has blood on its hands, so much so that we have become saturated with it, and now we have become immune to it...for the most part. If you ask any rational person, they'll say that violence is terrible and destructive. It's more like...we've seen so much of it, we don't flinch when we see it, but we sure as hell know it's wrong.
However...when one of the soldiers pulls a puppy out of the wreckage of the boat, and the puppy whines in fear, nearly EVERYONE in the class reacted in outrage and fear.
We can understand violence among humans because at this point in history, we are exposed to it on virtually every level. Violence in media back then was considered shocking because it wasn't commonplace. However, that small little puppy crying out in fear of violence rejuvenates the true nature of what violence is. The puppy has done nothing, the puppy is innocent. Taking violent action against a puppy is unforgivable. However, taking violent action against a modern-day human is now viewed as acceptable, because humans now understand all the social, emotional, and national reasons for violence.
In short, humanity has blood on its hands, so much so that we have become saturated with it, and now we have become immune to it...for the most part. If you ask any rational person, they'll say that violence is terrible and destructive. It's more like...we've seen so much of it, we don't flinch when we see it, but we sure as hell know it's wrong.
I haven't noticed that I would've become more violent or agressive because I play violent games. Quite the opposite in fact. When I play violent videogames, I have a good way of releasing that aggression. Imo videogame violence can make people more violent if they already have a tendency of being violent. Of course it can affect someone who doesn't have tendency for violence too. Still most of the talk about videogames corrupting people, is just BS.
I haven't seen much of an effect on me. Worst its gotten to is me cursing at the TV when I am sucking at Black Ops. Once I am off the Xbox it is business as usual. People just like to find reasons to make humanity more productive. This is mainly because video games hold no benefit to those who play them, and in actuality probably do have negative effects. I don't really care though, I don't spend hours a day playing games.
Well, certainly to fictional violence.
As for real life violence and inhumanity, the news + the sensationalist reality they rapport on is what have certainly desensitized me to abstract mentions of it going on away from me. Though if confronted directly with viewing it I would certainly be quite sensible to it.
Not caring much about something of course isn't even the same thing as being motivated to go out and do it either.
As for real life violence and inhumanity, the news + the sensationalist reality they rapport on is what have certainly desensitized me to abstract mentions of it going on away from me. Though if confronted directly with viewing it I would certainly be quite sensible to it.
Not caring much about something of course isn't even the same thing as being motivated to go out and do it either.
Oh well I can kind of agree with, in that I now have next to no patients with people that are being a smartass or joking around we me even in not so serious situations and I just start yelling at them.ArBeater said:
However, that's not being desensitised to violence, which is the major claim made againest violent video games, it's more that we have both lost our tolerance for other and are more agressive. Because I doubt that if you walked past some random person beaten and bloody you would just be like "lol sucks to be that guy" which is an example of a person desensitised to violance
The claims remain squarely in the realm of conjecture. No one has ever provided even remotely compelling evidence that suggests that violent games cause violence. The fact of the matter is that the reverse is most often found to occur, that games reduce instances of violent crime overall.
