Heavy Rain not on the PC

[Ekonk]

I'm glad it's not raining on my PC

har har har...

/facepalm

I was trying to be corny... in case you were wondering.

I reacted the way I would react to something corny. I'm not condemning you or your sense of humor or anything, don't worry. Getting stuff like this across on the internet is kind of hard.

 

[Ertis]

It's not on the PC !?!?!?! OH MY GOSH....

*sarcasm*

OP what rock were you living under to not know that it is a PS3 exclusive?

Eh, I'm late to the party and don't usually follow non-PC gaming news. And no, I'm not a "PCS FOR TEH WIN AN CONSLOS FOR TEH LOOSE!!!!!" type of person. I just don't have a TV and prefer the multi-usability of the PC.

 

[Evilbunny]

what is this I don't even

 

[Cthulus MailMan]

"It's a PS3 exclusive that is said to have revolutionary graphics for a console."

Note that phrase, "For a Console", by the standards of upto date Pc graphics that is not exactly revolutionary.

Fuck that, I'd rather that they be honest and not do a PC version than give us a shit port. Single platform exclusives? fine. I don't mind. PC has S.T.A.L.K.E.R, remember?

This is true

Actually, PC graphics aren't all that wow anymore. Heavy Rain character motion is still top notch, as well as the facial graphics - far better than anything on PC such as Crysis and STALKER: CoP, which has nice lighting, but it stops at that.
It's because of the Cell the PS3 can still have very sweet graphics, as even the i7 sucks at rendering, whereas the Cell can do field of depth effects as well as many other processes at any given time (Uncharted 2 for example).

While not trying to pick a fight (it is Chrismtas), and I agree that Heavy Rain looks good (well more so, I'm a Fahrenheit fanboy so...), if you start your sentence with "Actually, PC graphics aren't all that wow any more", I am convinced that this is a fight you will lose, especially considering the PS3 is a closed system.

Well PC CPUs can't render anything better than PS1 graphics, and even that's a push whereas the cell can render many advanced effects such as field of depth, not to mention the PS3 is still capable of procedural geometry creation even though the GPU is based on the 7950. Plus, no realistic PC can actually play games like STALKER: CS or Crysis at 60 FPS, and I doubt many PC's could play Wipeout HD at 1080p at a constant 60 FPS, considering that some multiplatform games aren't even played at an average 60 fps on PC's. Granted, PC's do ASF and AA better, but end of the day, if a game uses more efficient techniques for the same effect e.g. Killzone 2, what's the difference? So basically, yes there are PC games which could/will look ace, but not until there are cards able to play the games (The 5800 range is good...but a disappointing in terms of FPS), whereas the PS3 produces wow graphics out the box.

oh please my 9800GTX gets faster frame rates at higher resolutions in every multiplatfrom game out there
UT3
Devil may cry 4 (close to 3 times the framerate)
Batman AA
resident evil 5
street fighter 4
dead space
Mirrors edge (even with PhysX)
modern warfare 2
Borderlands
Dragon age origins
Fallout 3
Prototype

None of those games though are graphically heavy games, which means any comparison is pointless as they are played flawlessly on the PS3.
How's your card hold up with Far Cry 2, Crysis: Warhead, and STALKER: Clear Skies?
Yeah, not very well. I mean, it can't even play Call of Juarez at 1900 x 1200 at 60 FPS with AA. http://lly316.blogspot.com/2008/04/geforce-9800gtx-review-call-of-juarez.html
Unless you can chuck on a high resolution, AA and AAF, the PC hasn't got an advantage over PS3 graphics. At the moment, only the more expensive 200 series cards and the 5800 range can deal with large amounts of AA and AAF while at high resolutions. But then, performance vs. cost makes it ridiculous.
Plus, you aren't getting 60 FPS anywhere near all the time with games like CoD 5 or Fallout 3 - just check out the benchmarks.

30fps at 720p isn't flawless all of those game will play at a higher res and higher than 30fps
so far the PS3 runs no multiplatform game faster or with better graphics half the time it loses to the 360 anyway.
My card can handle crysis happily and farcry 2 no problem

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1261535527nw0lFGVCHH_4_5.gif
GTS 250 is basically the same card as a 9800gtx and 2560x1600 is double the resolution of 1080P

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1261535527nw0lFGVCHH_6_1.gif
1680x1050 not to far off 1080P still 8XAA CS for an £80 graphics card

Multiplatform games are a poor way of comparing power as devs optimise the games for x86 CPUs. Playing games in anything less than DX10 is also retarded as DX9 is a little sh*t.
The reason I bring up Crysis, Far Cry 2 and STALKER: Clear Skies is because they are really the only games with the possible "Wow, that's far better than what any console game offers" effect. So far, there are only a few cards which can actually play those games at a respectable frame rate, meaning that all the "PCs are WAAAY better than PS3" talk is bull, because realistically, no one is going to have a PC capable of actually showing those kind of graphics off. Whereas a PS3 still manages to bring out amazing graphics which everyone can play, assuming you have a PS3.

true multiplat isn't a great display of power mainly due to the skill level of the coders but the point is that in the real world rather than theoritical power the the highest level of graphical fideltiy always ends up going to the PC.
Not all PC's are created equal their is a vast difference between what the average person has even compard to what i would consider low end equipment like say a 9800GTX it isn't the fastest card available but much more powerfull than a X800.
I have a PS3 and it does excatly what it is desinged to do and it does it well but it isn't the ultimate machine the cell is crazy powerfull but 512MB of ram split between framebuffer and CPU cache chokes it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhbIAlRqcLE&hd=1
Thats about the highest level of graphics i can get with my system

Yeah a PS3 isn't the ultimate machine, as a PC with say the 5890 or two would out perform it easily. However, cost vs power, the PS3 is a better deal, plus if PC's were running the Cell, they'd be much better as it's a much better CPU design then anything AMD or Intel offer at the moment.

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

 

[Cthulus MailMan]

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

I agree with you on both subjects. Cell is a better CPU design than x86. I should of read the whole post before commenting. I read fragments of it and I guess just posted. Now off topic ive prepared a special picture (about 7 minutes in paint : D) for a moment like this

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/360/8/9/ERSB_has_to_learn_by_KraTheWolf.jpg

ERSB can suck it

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

I agree with you on both subjects. Cell is a better CPU design than x86. I should of read the whole post before commenting. I read fragments of it and I guess just posted. Now off topic ive prepared a special picture (about 7 minutes in paint : D) for a moment like this

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/360/8/9/ERSB_has_to_learn_by_KraTheWolf.jpg

ERSB can suck it

Good, I'm glad this is resolved, because the main point I made was that one can't say PC graphics aren't that wow while PS3 graphics are, because the PC has and will continue to produce better looking games at it's peak, and the reasons for that are obvious. And Mazty in one way or another though his posts agreed.

So the world is right again, good times.

 

[Cthulus MailMan]

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

I agree with you on both subjects. Cell is a better CPU design than x86. I should of read the whole post before commenting. I read fragments of it and I guess just posted. Now off topic ive prepared a special picture (about 7 minutes in paint : D) for a moment like this

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/360/8/9/ERSB_has_to_learn_by_KraTheWolf.jpg

ERSB can suck it

Good, I'm glad this is resolved, because the main point I made was that one can't say PC graphics aren't that wow while PS3 graphics are, because the PC has and will continue to produce better looking games at it's peak, and the reasons for that are obvious. And Mazty in one way or another though his posts agreed.

So the world is right again, good times.

Is this where the end credits roll?

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

I agree with you on both subjects. Cell is a better CPU design than x86. I should of read the whole post before commenting. I read fragments of it and I guess just posted. Now off topic ive prepared a special picture (about 7 minutes in paint : D) for a moment like this

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/360/8/9/ERSB_has_to_learn_by_KraTheWolf.jpg

ERSB can suck it

Good, I'm glad this is resolved, because the main point I made was that one can't say PC graphics aren't that wow while PS3 graphics are, because the PC has and will continue to produce better looking games at it's peak, and the reasons for that are obvious. And Mazty in one way or another though his posts agreed.

So the world is right again, good times.

Is this where the end credits roll?

Something like that. You get a choice of production stills or bloopers, and a trailer for the sequel.

 

[Cthulus MailMan]

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

Can you two quit arguing over this. It all depends on your PCs setup and system, if its good its good, where as the Ps3 has a limit of graphics an visual design that stops it from being too pretty. A pc can be modified without the need of buying a whole new system. Both sides have flaws and both have good points, you cant compare a Ps3 to a PC its like trying to compare a machete to a kitchen knife, sure they can serve the same base function but a machete is larger and more encumbersome but a kitchen knife is small but the reach isnt as far (Dont try to point out my spelling mistakes and grammar issues, cause sometimes you need to get something out there and its best said messily)

Mate, your a 'tard. We'd come to that conclusion so try reading. And no, the Cell BE is a better processor than any x86 CPU due to it's design. It does more, and faster. Simple as that.

Insulting me over the internet. Ok I'm not the smartest I never said I was, ok so in your opinion i'm a 'tard but I'm not going to fight you over it, because that could be what you want. Opinions are things nobody can change. I'm sorry I didnt see you two agreeing. But remember name calling on the internet isnt really insulting in the least.

I said you were a 'tard because you hadn't bothered to read what you were commenting on. Plus it's fact that the Cell is a better CPU design than x86, not an opinion, and that most GPU's can't actually play the best looking PC games well. End of the day, insulting may not be the brightest or smartest thing I've done, but neither is commenting on something you hadn't read.

I agree with you on both subjects. Cell is a better CPU design than x86. I should of read the whole post before commenting. I read fragments of it and I guess just posted. Now off topic ive prepared a special picture (about 7 minutes in paint : D) for a moment like this

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/360/8/9/ERSB_has_to_learn_by_KraTheWolf.jpg

ERSB can suck it

Good, I'm glad this is resolved, because the main point I made was that one can't say PC graphics aren't that wow while PS3 graphics are, because the PC has and will continue to produce better looking games at it's peak, and the reasons for that are obvious. And Mazty in one way or another though his posts agreed.

So the world is right again, good times.

Is this where the end credits roll?

Something like that. You get a choice of production stills or bloopers, and a trailer for the sequel.

Ooooo can I have all of them, and maybe then ill make a few sequels then screw the audience over with a shitty one that sells for lots, you sir..are on board this fright train to infamy

 

[jamesworkshop]

"It's a PS3 exclusive that is said to have revolutionary graphics for a console."

Note that phrase, "For a Console", by the standards of upto date Pc graphics that is not exactly revolutionary.

Fuck that, I'd rather that they be honest and not do a PC version than give us a shit port. Single platform exclusives? fine. I don't mind. PC has S.T.A.L.K.E.R, remember?

This is true

Actually, PC graphics aren't all that wow anymore. Heavy Rain character motion is still top notch, as well as the facial graphics - far better than anything on PC such as Crysis and STALKER: CoP, which has nice lighting, but it stops at that.
It's because of the Cell the PS3 can still have very sweet graphics, as even the i7 sucks at rendering, whereas the Cell can do field of depth effects as well as many other processes at any given time (Uncharted 2 for example).

While not trying to pick a fight (it is Chrismtas), and I agree that Heavy Rain looks good (well more so, I'm a Fahrenheit fanboy so...), if you start your sentence with "Actually, PC graphics aren't all that wow any more", I am convinced that this is a fight you will lose, especially considering the PS3 is a closed system.

Well PC CPUs can't render anything better than PS1 graphics, and even that's a push whereas the cell can render many advanced effects such as field of depth, not to mention the PS3 is still capable of procedural geometry creation even though the GPU is based on the 7950. Plus, no realistic PC can actually play games like STALKER: CS or Crysis at 60 FPS, and I doubt many PC's could play Wipeout HD at 1080p at a constant 60 FPS, considering that some multiplatform games aren't even played at an average 60 fps on PC's. Granted, PC's do ASF and AA better, but end of the day, if a game uses more efficient techniques for the same effect e.g. Killzone 2, what's the difference? So basically, yes there are PC games which could/will look ace, but not until there are cards able to play the games (The 5800 range is good...but a disappointing in terms of FPS), whereas the PS3 produces wow graphics out the box.

oh please my 9800GTX gets faster frame rates at higher resolutions in every multiplatfrom game out there
UT3
Devil may cry 4 (close to 3 times the framerate)
Batman AA
resident evil 5
street fighter 4
dead space
Mirrors edge (even with PhysX)
modern warfare 2
Borderlands
Dragon age origins
Fallout 3
Prototype

None of those games though are graphically heavy games, which means any comparison is pointless as they are played flawlessly on the PS3.
How's your card hold up with Far Cry 2, Crysis: Warhead, and STALKER: Clear Skies?
Yeah, not very well. I mean, it can't even play Call of Juarez at 1900 x 1200 at 60 FPS with AA. http://lly316.blogspot.com/2008/04/geforce-9800gtx-review-call-of-juarez.html
Unless you can chuck on a high resolution, AA and AAF, the PC hasn't got an advantage over PS3 graphics. At the moment, only the more expensive 200 series cards and the 5800 range can deal with large amounts of AA and AAF while at high resolutions. But then, performance vs. cost makes it ridiculous.
Plus, you aren't getting 60 FPS anywhere near all the time with games like CoD 5 or Fallout 3 - just check out the benchmarks.

30fps at 720p isn't flawless all of those game will play at a higher res and higher than 30fps
so far the PS3 runs no multiplatform game faster or with better graphics half the time it loses to the 360 anyway.
My card can handle crysis happily and farcry 2 no problem

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1261535527nw0lFGVCHH_4_5.gif
GTS 250 is basically the same card as a 9800gtx and 2560x1600 is double the resolution of 1080P

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1261535527nw0lFGVCHH_6_1.gif
1680x1050 not to far off 1080P still 8XAA CS for an £80 graphics card

Multiplatform games are a poor way of comparing power as devs optimise the games for x86 CPUs. Playing games in anything less than DX10 is also retarded as DX9 is a little sh*t.
The reason I bring up Crysis, Far Cry 2 and STALKER: Clear Skies is because they are really the only games with the possible "Wow, that's far better than what any console game offers" effect. So far, there are only a few cards which can actually play those games at a respectable frame rate, meaning that all the "PCs are WAAAY better than PS3" talk is bull, because realistically, no one is going to have a PC capable of actually showing those kind of graphics off. Whereas a PS3 still manages to bring out amazing graphics which everyone can play, assuming you have a PS3.

true multiplat isn't a great display of power mainly due to the skill level of the coders but the point is that in the real world rather than theoritical power the the highest level of graphical fideltiy always ends up going to the PC.
Not all PC's are created equal their is a vast difference between what the average person has even compard to what i would consider low end equipment like say a 9800GTX it isn't the fastest card available but much more powerfull than a X800.
I have a PS3 and it does excatly what it is desinged to do and it does it well but it isn't the ultimate machine the cell is crazy powerfull but 512MB of ram split between framebuffer and CPU cache chokes it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhbIAlRqcLE&hd=1
Thats about the highest level of graphics i can get with my system

Yeah a PS3 isn't the ultimate machine, as a PC with say the 5890 or two would out perform it easily. However, cost vs power, the PS3 is a better deal, plus if PC's were running the Cell, they'd be much better as it's a much better CPU design then anything AMD or Intel offer at the moment.

the cell is brilliant at vector data and kicks the teeth out of a standard X86 CPU at video encoding but it suffers from not suporting the full X86 and SSE4 instruction sets and branch prediction.
Processors are tricky the modern GPU is much faster than an X86 CPU at graphics rendering but completly incapable of running X86 the closest so far is nvidias fermi with support for C coding
As for the future IBM has no plans to continue the cell architechture

http://www.trustedreviews.com/cpu-memory/news/2009/11/23/IBM-Cancels-PS3-s-Cell-Processor/p1

 

[Nomanslander]

Sony tends to be very stingy with PC ports, 360 on the other hand...tries and fails..lol

Here's hoping Alan Wake gets a PC port.

 

[Aunel]

It's a PS3 exclusive that focuses a lot on quick-time events. How would that implement good on a PC? Are you just disappointed because it's a good looking game? Because that is probably the only reason a PC-gamer would want it on the PC, seeing as how the gameplay is not PC-friendly.

yeah a QTE based game on the pc, you might as well retype a book for the same experience.

OT: I am not really interested in heavy rain, as tracking down murderers without weapons will be quite boring, I might as well,
play bass and sing
which I shall do right now!
actually no, my throat and fingers hurt

 

[Woodsey]

No.

That is like saying "It sucks that Halo 3 is not on the PS3". Sure the system can run it, but the develpoers built it on one system, so it comes out for one system.

Who'd want to play Halo 3 though?

OT: Not particularly. It looks interesting, but I'll wait for the reviews to be convinced.

I like the Menu Screen it has though.