Heavy Rain Producer Speaks About Modern Warfare 2

[Terramax]

The main contraversy as far as Heavy Rain is concerned is whether anyone is actually interested in it.

It is nice to see QD talking about something other than their own mediocre titles for a change though.

 

[nonW00t]

We deserve to be shocked, it keeps us communicating. LOL

 

[A Weary Exile]

Speaking of Heavy Rain, when the hell is that game going to be released??

Seriously, I want to play it so badly.

OP: %100 correct sir, bravo!

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Speaking of Heavy Rain, when the hell is that game going to be released??

Seriously, I want to play it so badly.
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Well, after playing Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit (and liking the ending, too!!!!), I can't wait to see how it turns out. I'll likely pickup a PS3 around its release time, if that time is next year.

 

[pneuma08]

Well, this guy gets the award for saying what needs to be said.

 

[paragon1]

Man, this controversy sure has been great advertisement for a lot of people.

 

[Tdc2182]

Here's the deal. Killing civillians is bad. Anybody he was enjoying it in a nonhealthy way needs help. I personally thought that it was extremely interesting and really caught my emotion. They did it very well and give you the option not to shoot. They also give you the option to skip te level.

I also am really strating to get interested in this heavy rain game.

 

[Nurb]

He's right, games get treated differently than movies because people still think it's a young kid's hobby, when games like MW2 have the SAME age restrictions as movies like hostel.

The difference is that parents are stupid enough to ignore the age reccomendations, and blame the companies that make them when they realize their own damn mistake.

 

[Nurb]

Here's the deal. Killing civillians is bad. Anybody he was enjoying it in a nonhealthy way needs help. I personally thought that it was extremely interesting and really caught my emotion. They did it very well and give you the option not to shoot. They also give you the option to skip te level.

I also am really strating to get interested in this heavy rain game.

No, having fantasies of being an evil sadistic bastard are completely healthy to a point, and video games are a way to express that... GTA anyone?

 

[Woodsey]

However the Dedicated servers business is another thing...

Yes, because that is what this is about...

OT - I'm glad to see that now it's come out and a decent number of people have seen this isn't the big deal it looked like it could have been, more games might try something more adult. Maybe, in time and with (depressingly) Activision's help, we can educate parents to realise that a giant red circle with 18 on it means that same with games as it does with movies...

Well considering we've now switched to PEGI, a different symbol to the films ratings and with pictures instead of actually saying the content (to remove confusion about what it means!), they might just carry on using the same excuse that they don't know what the number means.

 

[Alphavillain]

Well, Infinity Ward wanted controversy, and they got it. In a way, I have little sympathy for them, because the game is selling like hot cakes and it would have without that scene.

The fact is, MW2 is an 18 certificate. If you're not 18, you shouldn't be playing it. The Keith Vazs of this world and assorted other clueless do-gooders should concentrate on enforcing the law on sales rather than banning something which is rated responsibly. And if parents buy the game for their children, they can't be surprised when they wake up one morning wearing a Columbian Necktie, eh?

 

[Fuhjem]

Well said Guillaume, well said. Makes more sense than any other persons description of game violence.

Maybe we should have had him talking on 'Faux' & Friends instead of that stuttering waste.

 

[katsabas]

they make an excellant point about context. imagine if hostel didnt have its story and was just pure torture scene porn.

Hostel DOESN'T have a story and is just torture porn.

Copy that.
That Guillaume guy knows his stuff. It is true. Games should be treated like movies when it comes to context. Also, the ESRB gave this game a rating for a reason. Then, Activision warns you before the scene. Both sides did a good job. Now it is up to parents and retailers.

Something I forgot to mention: COD4 featured a nuke. A NUKE. And people ***** about something like that?

Also, a statement like that coming from a developer... gets me excited for his game.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

So not surprised.
My regards to Quantic Dream. Iknew those guys would say that,they are one of thefew developers that know how important immersion is in gaming (I put IW in that category, too).
It's so nice when the guys who made my second favorite video game of all-time support the guys who made the first.

 

[Scops]

I dont like the airport scene, mainly because it was just tossed in there to shock us and not to tell a story, basically making it a cheap and simple way of lazy writers to shock people as they obviously did not have the true talent needed to write a proper story that would do the same without all the forced shock.

I agree, and to expand upon this, I felt like this did little to contribute to the story. This part of the story could have been accomplished just as easily if the terrorists had bombed the airport. It also made no sense at all in the CONTEXT of the story. (Minor spoilers)If the CIA's goal was to capture Makarov, why the hell would the agent partake in the massacre? He was standing three feet away from Makarov and armed with an M60! WTF? (/Spoiler)

I can understand, and will even defend gut-wrenching and disturbing scenes in video games that are trying to develop a strong narrative. Jenny's last scene in the Darkness (you know which one I'm talking about if you played it) was profoundly effective, and completely changed how I viewed the events in that game.

But in this political climate, knowing full well that the world was going to be watching this launch, I think IW was extremely irresponsible in making this level. Germany is literally in the process of banning violent video games, and countries like Australia appear to be of like minds. Proponents of this legislation must have drooled when they inevitably learned of it from a clumsy conservative news story.

Yes, I believe video games are just as legitimate forms of art as other media, but the sad fact is that today's society doesn't agree, and risking legislation that could take this media away from any section of the population for low-grade shock value is stupid and not worth it.

Edit: Basically, this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/press-released/6776-Poking-the-Hornet-s-Nest, plus poor political timing.