Give me a second, let me grab my soap box that I brought from my high horse who lives in my ivory tower; feel free to implement any other cliched things that I may have missed...alright, I'm ready:
GAMERS! There is ONE vote that matters here and that's your $$$$. If you don't like companies forcing "online only" DRM (and let's face it, that's all this is) down your throat, there is only ONE way to make it go away: Don't buy the game. And no, this does not mean you get to pirate it, that means that you don't play the damn game. Gamers ***** about these "online only" DRM practices constantly and yet they throw their money at a developer who implements these practices. Alright...let me get down now.
True, the fact that there are no Pre-Order bonuses in this case makes it easier to wait for post launch. It's probably the best idea.ohnoitsabear said:A few things:
1. If you're worried about SimCity, don't buy it on launch. See what other people think of it, and see if EA will pull any bullshit post-launch. Actually, this applies to any game. If a game sucks, it's best to find it out from someone else than experience it firsthand.
2. With EA, it's usually best to assume that they are going to rip you off in some way. It's up to you to decide if the game is still worth it to you.
3. I know I probably won't convince you to change, but if you're not going to buy a game, don't play it. I've opted out from playing plenty of games that I didn't think were worth the money (or because of DRM or other bullshit), and my quality of life has not suffered in the slightest. There are plenty of other games out there, and a very large amount of them are worth the investment.
Heh, that's true. I gues it's like a relationship, you can have many great hours from it but if it ends badly well... that's what you remember. But yeah, I got my hours, don't regret it in the slightest.tippy2k2 said:So you ONLY got a hundred hours of entertainment from Battlefield 3? EA should be burned down and destroyed for such a shoddy product!!!!11111!!1 (I know that's not your point but I felt this had to be pointed out)
I've said it in multiple threads and I'll go ahead and say it here: There is no excuse for piracy for 1st world countries (the 3rd world one is a different argument that I'm not going to go near).
The thing about sending the message "Yes EA, I want more colorful SimCity instead of more brown shooters" seems good on paper. But the problem is you're also sending them the message that you stand for their bullshit. I'm not really going to use my money to send messages, as a consumer, it's probably best if I spend it simply thinking of what works best for me. Not sure what message that sends...shiajun said:You should buy it. Consider that game companies can only see their sales and bottom lines, not your intentions. You bought BF3 and hated their nickel and dime scheme, but you will not buy SimCity although you love the game. The economic message you are sending is the exact opposite of what you would like. You may even drive EA to stop making SimCity games altogether and, in some extreme, dissolve Maxis altogether as they are not profitable anymore. You may regret your BF3 purchase. Tell EA about it and also don't forget to tell them why you loved SimCity (it that were the case), or why you didn't buy it in the end (DRM, bad company rep, whatever). If you only take away from SimCity and keep silent about it you will be helping the idea that only way to turn a profit is to make games like BF3 and their pricing schemes. Don't come around complaining when the market is still flooded with CoD clones, and you find nothing good enough for you to NOT pirate it.
My case: haven't bought a Ubisoft game in a loooooong time because of DRM, shoddy PC ports, etc. Will buy Rayman Origins as soon as I have disposable income. Why? Love the game's joyous art and attitude, no DRM, excellent port.
Well, of course, you should spend your money as you see fit, but keep in mind what the comapny will see, specially if your fundamental conflict is one of supporting certain practices. If you don't want to think about it, just do what you're more comfortable doing, but, I repeat, send a letter. It may be small, but if everyone did this I think there would be less guessing on what consumers find acceptable and what not.Wild_Marker said:The thing about sending the message "Yes EA, I want more colorful SimCity instead of more brown shooters" seems good on paper. But the problem is you're also sending them the message that you stand for their bullshit. I'm not really going to use my money to send messages, as a consumer, it's probably best if I spend it simply thinking of what works best for me. Not sure what message that sends...shiajun said:You should buy it. Consider that game companies can only see their sales and bottom lines, not your intentions. You bought BF3 and hated their nickel and dime scheme, but you will not buy SimCity although you love the game. The economic message you are sending is the exact opposite of what you would like. You may even drive EA to stop making SimCity games altogether and, in some extreme, dissolve Maxis altogether as they are not profitable anymore. You may regret your BF3 purchase. Tell EA about it and also don't forget to tell them why you loved SimCity (it that were the case), or why you didn't buy it in the end (DRM, bad company rep, whatever). If you only take away from SimCity and keep silent about it you will be helping the idea that only way to turn a profit is to make games like BF3 and their pricing schemes. Don't come around complaining when the market is still flooded with CoD clones, and you find nothing good enough for you to NOT pirate it.
My case: haven't bought a Ubisoft game in a loooooong time because of DRM, shoddy PC ports, etc. Will buy Rayman Origins as soon as I have disposable income. Why? Love the game's joyous art and attitude, no DRM, excellent port.
Well, don't. They'd charge you for doing it.boag said:Dude, just follow this simple advice.
FUCK EA.
This is not an acceptable excuse and piracy is not acceptable around here.Wild_Marker said:I don't have to buy something if I want to play it and that's how I grew up.
That sounds like another good idea, though one version has multiplayer and the other does not. And I do like the sound of conected SimCity.Signa said:Seems the most fair and practical thing for a person in your situation can do is "play" it, and then buy the GOTY version if that comes out. If it doesn't, then it probably will see a price drop, and then you can justify getting nickled-and-dimed a bit for the extra content you want. That way you get to not truly support EA's greedy practices while still maintaining a fair budget.
Disclaimer: I'm not actually telling him to pirate or supporting piracy. The OP is going to do what he's going to do despite what this forum tells him. I'm just voicing a suggestion on how to conduct his illicit affairs so as to harm the fewest people. If that is still too much for the moderators, please let me know so I can change the post before handing out punishments.
I'm not pretending to protect my right as consumer by pirating. Never said that. I am simply asking for opinion on this matter. Like we've been saiyng since the start of the post, this is not a thread about advocating or justifying piracy. (though your argument of black and white... I can't agree with it, there ARE grey areas on the matter but again, NOT THE POINT OF THE THREAD)Bhaalspawn said:If you don't want to give EA your money, don't play SimCity.
If you want SimCity, buy it.
If you're going to pirate the game, don't pretend you're doing it to protect your rights as a consumer. Everyone who has pirated has done it for the same reason. They are cheap and want free stuff.
If the game is still worth playing despite all the complaints against EA, all your justifications for piracy are rendered meaningless.
For fucks sake, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting sick of so many people crying about the very thing they begged for in games when Valve managed to push Online DRM and Mircotransactions.
Buy it or don't play it at all. Simple black and white choice. There is no grey area here. If you don't like EA, don't play their games.
Not really possible since it locks up to an Origin account once you activate it. Also, used PC games in south america are er... not something you can actually get. Anywhere. We don't have the big Gamestops and such. But yeah, it would be a good idea if it was possible. (and then someone would step up to tell you about how bad you are for buying used games instead of new but whatever)kingthrall said:BUY IT- SECOND HAND that way your not feeding EA. and your not pirating!