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I want to do some things that require a pretty decent PC, and I think like most of us I'm a novice about how these magic boxes work. I'm not interested in building my own, and am leaning towards Alienware even though I hear their expensive they are a brand I know of. my friends have had them, so I'm inclined to trust them a bit. Plus they have a financing plan, which is the only way I'm going to afford to get these.

NEEDS:
-I need to be able to live stream, on twitch or the like
-I need to able to edit audio/video

and obviously I want to use it for gaming as well. My budget is about a $1,000 and not a penny over that, and this is for a desktop.

Thing is I know very little about what graphics cards or any of this stuff means so... little help?
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
I want to do some things that require a pretty decent PC, and I think like most of us I'm a novice about how these magic boxes work. I'm not interested in building my own, and am leaning towards Alienware even though I hear their expensive they are a brand I know of. my friends have had them, so I'm inclined to trust them a bit. Plus they have a financing plan, which is the only way I'm going to afford to get these.

NEEDS:
-I need to be able to live stream, on twitch or the like
-I need to able to edit audio/video

and obviously I want to use it for gaming as well. My budget is about a $1,000 and not a penny over that, and this is for a desktop.

Thing is I know very little about what graphics cards or any of this stuff means so... little help?
I would first ask at what level do you want to edit the audio and video and what you want to stream. Because you will want to have extra power. If you are streaming old games, you would be fine with an pretty standard gaming PC. IF you want a serious stream of the latest poorly optimized Bethesda game running at 60fps while streaming, your budget might be mising. And if you want professional design work ro deiting a professional card would be required and those can go for 1k each, by itself. I would recoomed building your own, look into higher end of the stuff. I woudl see an high end i5 at least and probably a 980 range card, with a bit of good RAM (16 GB at least I would say, to have the gmae and the extra program running) so you have no problems. The thing is is that a 980 card for video editing or high fps will cost you over $500 by itself, and adding a motehrboard, RAM, a full tower, a power supply and a good processor it would be over the $1000 mark you are setting. I guess you could try 970 or even a 960, but the thing is you need extra horsepower to run the steaming and it would depend on the video editing you want. SO it depends, what do you want to play and how? ANd alst for how long? because it might be worth to wait a little to see if the NVidia Series 10 will change the price of the Series 9 and at what price range the new cards will be appearing.

Alienware is overpriced for my taste and for the same budget of an Alienware you will get a better desktop. Look into the specs of streamers you like, or youtubers that also edit and you will see more or less what they are playing and how. WE can help you a little bit, but it really depends on your needs, and just streaming and editing are a bit vague.

Edit: Also flagged for the reason that is seems to be the wrong subforum. It is nothing personal.
 

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kurokotetsu said:
DudeistBelieve said:
I want to do some things that require a pretty decent PC, and I think like most of us I'm a novice about how these magic boxes work. I'm not interested in building my own, and am leaning towards Alienware even though I hear their expensive they are a brand I know of. my friends have had them, so I'm inclined to trust them a bit. Plus they have a financing plan, which is the only way I'm going to afford to get these.

NEEDS:
-I need to be able to live stream, on twitch or the like
-I need to able to edit audio/video

and obviously I want to use it for gaming as well. My budget is about a $1,000 and not a penny over that, and this is for a desktop.

Thing is I know very little about what graphics cards or any of this stuff means so... little help?
I would first ask at what level do you want to edit the audio and video and what you want to stream. Because you will want to have extra power. If you are streaming old games, you would be fine with an pretty standard gaming PC. IF you want a serious stream of the latest poorly optimized Bethesda game running at 60fps while streaming, your budget might be mising. And if you want professional design work ro deiting a professional card would be required and those can go for 1k each, by itself. I would recoomed building your own, look into higher end of the stuff. I woudl see an high end i5 at least and probably a 980 range card, with a bit of good RAM (16 GB at least I would say, to have the gmae and the extra program running) so you have no problems. The thing is is that a 980 card for video editing or high fps will cost you over $500 by itself, and adding a motehrboard, RAM, a full tower, a power supply and a good processor it would be over the $1000 mark you are setting. I guess you could try 970 or even a 960, but the thing is you need extra horsepower to run the steaming and it would depend on the video editing you want. SO it depends, what do you want to play and how? ANd alst for how long? because it might be worth to wait a little to see if the NVidia Series 10 will change the price of the Series 9 and at what price range the new cards will be appearing.

Alienware is overpriced for my taste and for the same budget of an Alienware you will get a better desktop. Look into the specs of streamers you like, or youtubers that also edit and you will see more or less what they are playing and how.
Shit.

Very basic editing. I want to get heavy into podcasting and blogging, so were not talking like special effects and what not but you know. I just want to be able to do it with out my machine stuttering like it currently does.

Well, no, I wasn't going to abandoned console gaming entirely but you mean even at a $1,000 dollars a ready made machine can't stream and run say Fallout 4? Granted, I was thinking in my head using it to play smaller indy titles but I was kinda hoping for a 1,000$ I'd at least get something that could rival what my Xbox One can do.

Seriously. You're telling me my Xbox One can live stream GTA: Online but whatever alienware crap I get is a no go? That just seems... odd.

Also I'm pretty tied to Alien Ware at this point... or at least just Dell. I just set up a line of credit with them, the thing is I gotta keep my monthly payment low enough while still making sure I get it paid off before the interest kicks in. I suppose I could just build a PC using that line of credit, but I wouldn't know what the hell I'm doing... I wouldn't mind learning, but I kinda don't have the cash if I do something wrong and ruin the pieces that I buy.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
I want to do some things that require a pretty decent PC, and I think like most of us I'm a novice about how these magic boxes work. I'm not interested in building my own, and am leaning towards Alienware even though I hear their expensive they are a brand I know of. my friends have had them, so I'm inclined to trust them a bit. Plus they have a financing plan, which is the only way I'm going to afford to get these.

NEEDS:
-I need to be able to live stream, on twitch or the like
-I need to able to edit audio/video

and obviously I want to use it for gaming as well. My budget is about a $1,000 and not a penny over that, and this is for a desktop.

Thing is I know very little about what graphics cards or any of this stuff means so... little help?
Alienware hasn't been exactly great since they were bought out but someone else may know more about them specifically than I do.

Does the budget include a mouse, keyboard and monitor?
 

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The Enquirer said:
DudeistBelieve said:
I want to do some things that require a pretty decent PC, and I think like most of us I'm a novice about how these magic boxes work. I'm not interested in building my own, and am leaning towards Alienware even though I hear their expensive they are a brand I know of. my friends have had them, so I'm inclined to trust them a bit. Plus they have a financing plan, which is the only way I'm going to afford to get these.

NEEDS:
-I need to be able to live stream, on twitch or the like
-I need to able to edit audio/video

and obviously I want to use it for gaming as well. My budget is about a $1,000 and not a penny over that, and this is for a desktop.

Thing is I know very little about what graphics cards or any of this stuff means so... little help?
Alienware hasn't been exactly great since they were bought out but someone else may know more about them specifically than I do.

Does the budget include a mouse, keyboard and monitor?
No, but I have all that from my last computer, so it's not really a deal breaker.
 

kurokotetsu

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DudeistBelieve said:
Shit.

Very basic editing. I want to get heavy into podcasting and blogging, so were not talking like special effects and what not but you know. I just want to be able to do it with out my machine stuttering like it currently does.

Well, no, I wasn't going to abandoned console gaming entirely but you mean even at a $1,000 dollars a ready made machine can't stream and run say Fallout 4? Granted, I was thinking in my head using it to play smaller indy titles but I was kinda hoping for a 1,000$ I'd at least get something that could rival what my Xbox One can do.

Seriously. You're telling me my Xbox One can live stream GTA: Online but whatever alienware crap I get is a no go? That just seems... odd.

Also I'm pretty tied to Alien Ware at this point... or at least just Dell. I just set up a line of credit with them, the thing is I gotta keep my monthly payment low enough while still making sure I get it paid off before the interest kicks in. I suppose I could just build a PC using that line of credit, but I wouldn't know what the hell I'm doing... I wouldn't mind learning, but I kinda don't have the cash if I do something wrong and ruin the pieces that I buy.
You are streaming to a PC gmaing crowd. XBO will run GTA at 30 fps. In the PC streaming world streaming at the frame rate will get you some bad comments and some poeple might disconnect and not watch your stuff. It happens regularly in youtube comments, if a Youtuber doens't stream at 60fps, complaints of headaches and of the low fps willa ppear. As such if you want to seriously get into the scene, you need more.

A 1k computer will get you running and possibly streaming, as well as basic editing (you probably won't need a deicated audio card I think, that is outside my "expertise"), even Fallout 4, but the thing is, you might not be up to the standard of your competitors. They have very powerful machines, to run with very high detail and at least 60fps the game they want to stream. THe thing is, PC market has a higher standard for all this than consoles, so while you can perfectly do what a XBO does, it might not be enoght to get you in the scene. That is the thing.You can do it in the console way, but it might not be what you want.

For POdacasts, well, depending on what you probably ned a good microphone adn headphoens. THe audio card might be needed too. THat is anotehr expense. I think they aren't nearly as expensive as video cards, but depending on what you are shooting for, there will eb levels. The processing power for audio only is far lower, and the quality of the audio equipment more important.

Also, with a little research you can look into what to buy. EVGA hasa power source calculator for example, if you read teh specs of motehrboardsyou can see which RAM, processor and video cards are they compatible with. And a lot of site even have recommended combos for motherboard processor (and if you have a PCIe 3.0 port on your motehrboard you can connect most gaming video cards with not porblem).

If you are already buying wiht them, Alienware I do beleive is better than the standard Dell brand for gaming PCs. The Alpha seems a bit on the chep side (although i hate that they don't tell you which card specifically it was) and allegedely it can run THe WItcher at a good fps, but it seem to be more in the range of a Series 8 card. The next up in their "gmaing" line the X51 with a good i5 and a 960 card (not the highest end of the current generation) is will run you over the thousand mark for 30 bucks (and form specs alone, that would be at least the one I would recommend as a stable gaming PC that might decently stream high end games). WHich is why I think they are over priced, because at those price ranges you can get more power if you build it yourself.
 

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kurokotetsu said:
DudeistBelieve said:
Shit.

Very basic editing. I want to get heavy into podcasting and blogging, so were not talking like special effects and what not but you know. I just want to be able to do it with out my machine stuttering like it currently does.

Well, no, I wasn't going to abandoned console gaming entirely but you mean even at a $1,000 dollars a ready made machine can't stream and run say Fallout 4? Granted, I was thinking in my head using it to play smaller indy titles but I was kinda hoping for a 1,000$ I'd at least get something that could rival what my Xbox One can do.

Seriously. You're telling me my Xbox One can live stream GTA: Online but whatever alienware crap I get is a no go? That just seems... odd.

Also I'm pretty tied to Alien Ware at this point... or at least just Dell. I just set up a line of credit with them, the thing is I gotta keep my monthly payment low enough while still making sure I get it paid off before the interest kicks in. I suppose I could just build a PC using that line of credit, but I wouldn't know what the hell I'm doing... I wouldn't mind learning, but I kinda don't have the cash if I do something wrong and ruin the pieces that I buy.
You are streaming to a PC gmaing crowd. XBO will run GTA at 30 fps. In the PC streaming world streaming at the frame rate will get you some bad comments and some poeple might disconnect and not watch your stuff. It happens regularly in youtube comments, if a Youtuber doens't stream at 60fps, complaints of headaches and of the low fps willa ppear. As such if you want to seriously get into the scene, you need more.

A 1k computer will get you running and possibly streaming, as well as basic editing (you probably won't need a deicated audio card I think, that is outside my "expertise"), even Fallout 4, but the thing is, you might not be up to the standard of your competitors. They have very powerful machines, to run with very high detail and at least 60fps the game they want to stream. THe thing is, PC market has a higher standard for all this than consoles, so while you can perfectly do what a XBO does, it might not be enoght to get you in the scene. That is the thing.You can do it in the console way, but it might not be what you want.

For POdacasts, well, depending on what you probably ned a good microphone adn headphoens. THe audio card might be needed too. THat is anotehr expense. I think they aren't nearly as expensive as video cards, but depending on what you are shooting for, there will eb levels. The processing power for audio only is far lower, and the quality of the audio equipment more important.

Also, with a little research you can look into what to buy. EVGA hasa power source calculator for example, if you read teh specs of motehrboardsyou can see which RAM, processor and video cards are they compatible with. And a lot of site even have recommended combos for motherboard processor (and if you have a PCIe 3.0 port on your motehrboard you can connect most gaming video cards with not porblem).

If you are already buying wiht them, Alienware I do beleive is better than the standard Dell brand for gaming PCs. The Alpha seems a bit on the chep side (although i hate that they don't tell you which card specifically it was) and allegedely it can run THe WItcher at a good fps, but it seem to be more in the range of a Series 8 card. The next up in their "gmaing" line the X51 with a good i5 and a 960 card (not the highest end of the current generation) is will run you over the thousand mark for 30 bucks (and form specs alone, that would be at least the one I would recommend as a stable gaming PC that might decently stream high end games). WHich is why I think they are over priced, because at those price ranges you can get more power if you build it yourself.
Yeah, I'm not really a big graphics guy and I've NEVER seen a difference in FPS so it really is just about getting that streaming experince... just on a PC where I have more control over stuff. People will complain, but trying to compete on that level is also probably a fools errand.

I'm actually trying to get my fiction writing on the ground, is the goal of this. I'm thinking if I can build a bit of a brand identity, someone people want to hang around with, they might want to spend a dollar on an ebook. So I don't want to say the stream quality doesn't matter, but, you know what I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to compete on streaming scene, actually I find a lot of them pretty obnoxious. I just want more of a, hey come hang out with me while I chill thing.

I've done some podcasts so far using just an Ipod, an Xbox One headset, and this app called Boostjack. It's functional, but not anywhere near elegant and transfering the files is a bit of a pain so I'm just looking to make that easier.

So what I'm hearing is... $1,000 dollars would cover my needs, it's just that my needs are well below that of the average PC gamer? and the X51 eh?

EDIT: unfortunately I am very married to them. The account has been made, so it's either that or something else with the Dell brand... it's also the financing, I need that 0% interest for the couple months if I'm going to do this.
 

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No, but I have all that from my last computer, so it's not really a deal breaker.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221142
This one also has a small ssd on it, so you should be able to load your operating system onto it for a really, really quick boot time. As an example my rig that I built has one and has got a 20 second boot up time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221131
This one has a less powerful GPU by a decent margin but it still a solid rig and a bit below your budget. It also has a small SSD on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ3UN1843
That's an AMD build. Overall with AMD you will get more bang for your buck, however the programs will run a little bit hotter and generally build quality is a bit lower but I've got a friend who will swear by AMD if his life depended on it. It also has a much larger SSD on it than either of the other systems. Since it's running windows 8.1 it *should* let you update to windows 10 for free.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100019096%204022%20600030537&IsNodeId=1&OEMMark=N
That's the search I did. Nothing should be over your budget there if you want to look and post some links from there if you've got questions for anyone.

As per your question about GPU's, it'd be helpful to know what resolution you plan on gaming at and if you want to be running everything coming out at the highest graphics or you're fine settling for something lower.
 

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The Enquirer said:
DudeistBelieve said:
No, but I have all that from my last computer, so it's not really a deal breaker.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221142
This one also has a small ssd on it, so you should be able to load your operating system onto it for a really, really quick boot time. As an example my rig that I built has one and has got a 20 second boot up time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221131
This one has a less powerful GPU by a decent margin but it still a solid rig and a bit below your budget. It also has a small SSD on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ3UN1843
That's an AMD build. Overall with AMD you will get more bang for your buck, however the programs will run a little bit hotter and generally build quality is a bit lower but I've got a friend who will swear by AMD if his life depended on it. It also has a much larger SSD on it than either of the other systems. Since it's running windows 8.1 it *should* let you update to windows 10 for free.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100019096%204022%20600030537&IsNodeId=1&OEMMark=N
That's the search I did. Nothing should be over your budget there if you want to look and post some links from there if you've got questions for anyone.

As per your question about GPU's, it'd be helpful to know what resolution you plan on gaming at and if you want to be running everything coming out at the highest graphics or you're fine settling for something lower.
actually... quite helpful... and I see Newegg has a payment plan too...

Thanks man.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
actually... quite helpful... and I see Newegg has a payment plan too...

Thanks man.
No problem. If you've got any questions feel free to shoot me a PM or just quote me here and I'll do my best to find you an answer :)
 

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Alienware is not even remotely worth the cost.

Try PCspecialist for sources of PC, it's configurable and actually pretty close to the cost of a PC being built yourself.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
actually... quite helpful... and I see Newegg has a payment plan too...

Thanks man.
Honestly I wouldn't bother with a premade PC. Seeing as $1k for a streaming PC is pushing it a little you'd be better off assembling your own PC. You can always get professional, or just a friend, help with actually putting it together. That way you'd get a way better price-quality performance which in this case is quite important.

This [http://www.logicalincrements.com/] website is pretty much the best for deciding what kind of parts you need. You can mix and match what you want, like spending a little less on a case and SSD and then getting a slightly more expensive GPU or CPU. It's really handy.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
Yeah, I'm not really a big graphics guy and I've NEVER seen a difference in FPS so it really is just about getting that streaming experince... just on a PC where I have more control over stuff. People will complain, but trying to compete on that level is also probably a fools errand.

I'm actually trying to get my fiction writing on the ground, is the goal of this. I'm thinking if I can build a bit of a brand identity, someone people want to hang around with, they might want to spend a dollar on an ebook. So I don't want to say the stream quality doesn't matter, but, you know what I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to compete on streaming scene, actually I find a lot of them pretty obnoxious. I just want more of a, hey come hang out with me while I chill thing.

I've done some podcasts so far using just an Ipod, an Xbox One headset, and this app called Boostjack. It's functional, but not anywhere near elegant and transfering the files is a bit of a pain so I'm just looking to make that easier.

So what I'm hearing is... $1,000 dollars would cover my needs, it's just that my needs are well below that of the average PC gamer? and the X51 eh?

EDIT: unfortunately I am very married to them. The account has been made, so it's either that or something else with the Dell brand... it's also the financing, I need that 0% interest for the couple months if I'm going to do this.
AS someone pointed out, Newegg has financing too. THe X51 with at least a 960 (I'm a NVidia man, I prefer them to the standard MAD card that they have, specially since you are getting an intel processor probably). ANd yes, you are covered with that to be a PC gamer. Probably up the RAM a little or something like that. You would be an average gamer with a rig like that, just not a streamer, but if you have another plan, go for it. You will still be able to play and have fun on that machine.
 

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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't buy a pre-built computer. You'll throw away a third of your budget that way, on outdated or cheap parts, and a flashy case.

Speaking as some one who went from never building a PC before, to building multiple computers, and doing repairs for friends; you can build your own VERY easy.

The first computer I built was by myself and I learned everything I needed to know from Youtube. Every part you buy has instructions for it. You WILL save yourself money and in return get a BETTER computer for less.






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**Hardware recommendations for streaming:**
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Graphics card: You wouldn't want anything less than a GTX 970 or R9 290 for a graphics card.

Processor: Intel i7 is top-tier because of hyper-threading, especially for video editing. i5 would be the next step down. I wouldn't bother with AMD offerings at a $1000 price-point.

Here is a part list for you if you change your mind: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qdX2qs

CPU: i7-4790 - Best locked Haswell processor Skylake doesn't offer significant performance increases over Haswell, unless you are struggling to pay your power bill. Comes with a stock cooler.

Motherboard: Gigabyte is a decent brand, its a mATX board so it will fit in a smaller case, still has everything you need on it.

RAM: RAM is RAM, I've personally used these sticks before though. Crucial is a good brand.

Storage: 240GB ssd for windows install, 1TB for everything else. A 3TB seagate barracuda would be a good step up if you need more space.

You will need 1 sata cable for each. These are 60 cents each: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812422651

GPU: R9 390, decent card, 390x is too expensive, swap for a GTX 970 if you want.

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000, cheap case. Comes with a front fan, and built in front dust filter. It is also a mATX case, so it is smaller.

Look at a Source 210 Elite they are like $10 more. It will put you over budget by a few dollars but I'd recommend the change.

Power supply: XFX is a good brand. This supply gets a 9/10 rating from jonnyguru. It's not modular, but you save on the price that way. It also has a 5 year warranty.

Optical drive: Because it fit in your budget. You'll need another sata cable for this as well.

OS: Windows 10.

Total: $994.87 - with 3 sata cables, right inside the budget.

The closest I could get to comparable would be the Alienware x51 at $1,250, and it's missing a ssd.
 

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@Jadwick he can save a little bit if he gets the windows key at https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/
 

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Jadwick said:
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't buy a pre-built computer. You'll throw away a third of your budget that way, on outdated or cheap parts, and a flashy case.

Speaking as some one who went from never building a PC before, to building multiple computers, and doing repairs for friends; you can build your own VERY easy.

The first computer I built was by myself and I learned everything I needed to know from Youtube. Every part you buy has instructions for it. You WILL save yourself money and in return get a BETTER computer for less.






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**Hardware recommendations for streaming:**
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Graphics card: You wouldn't want anything less than a GTX 970 or R9 290 for a graphics card.

Processor: Intel i7 is top-tier because of hyper-threading, especially for video editing. i5 would be the next step down. I wouldn't bother with AMD offerings at a $1000 price-point.

Here is a part list for you if you change your mind: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qdX2qs

CPU: i7-4790 - Best locked Haswell processor Skylake doesn't offer significant performance increases over Haswell, unless you are struggling to pay your power bill. Comes with a stock cooler.

Motherboard: Gigabyte is a decent brand, its a mATX board so it will fit in a smaller case, still has everything you need on it.

RAM: RAM is RAM, I've personally used these sticks before though. Crucial is a good brand.

Storage: 240GB ssd for windows install, 1TB for everything else. A 3TB seagate barracuda would be a good step up if you need more space.

You will need 1 sata cable for each. These are 60 cents each: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812422651

GPU: R9 390, decent card, 390x is too expensive, swap for a GTX 970 if you want.

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000, cheap case. Comes with a front fan, and built in front dust filter. It is also a mATX case, so it is smaller.

Look at a Source 210 Elite they are like $10 more. It will put you over budget by a few dollars but I'd recommend the change.

Power supply: XFX is a good brand. This supply gets a 9/10 rating from jonnyguru. It's not modular, but you save on the price that way. It also has a 5 year warranty.

Optical drive: Because it fit in your budget. You'll need another sata cable for this as well.

OS: Windows 10.

Total: $994.87 - with 3 sata cables, right inside the budget.

The closest I could get to comparable would be the Alienware x51 at $1,250, and it's missing a ssd.
It is a good built. The thibg ti consider for thain my perspective is the only DDR3 compatiblr motherboard. The DDR4 is here and in a few years, when it is time to upgrade that might cause an issue.that is why today I favour more the Skylake line, since they are the line compatible with those mothetboards. I believe it is a better investment to go for a DDR4 compatible machine now and upgrade later at less of a cost. But that is just me.
 

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The problem with building one, aside from taking the risk that I fuck up the parts that I buy somehow... is the purchasing. Like I gotta see how buying multiple different items on finance credit vs buying just one thing on credit works. Suddenly I'm hit with several small bills at once instead of just one large one.

I could just put it on my credit card, but I just finally got that fucker paid off and really don't want to do that.
 

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If you don't need a desktop right away, I would really recommend waiting until July-August before purchasing a pre-built rig. AMD and Nvidia will have released their newest generation of graphics cards (far more performance for an equal or lower price). Intel will also have their new Broadwell-E Flagship CPUs on the market by the summer as well. You can't continuously delay a tech purchase as there is always going to be something newer and better around the corner, but IMO, now is a really bad time to buy PC hardware.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
The problem with building one, aside from taking the risk that I fuck up the parts that I buy somehow... is the purchasing. Like I gotta see how buying multiple different items on finance credit vs buying just one thing on credit works. Suddenly I'm hit with several small bills at once instead of just one large one.

I could just put it on my credit card, but I just finally got that fucker paid off and really don't want to do that.
This is the website I used to pick the parts for mine to ensure there weren't any compatibility issues. This is actually my exact build, granted I got it cheaper at the time due to sales. Putting one together is basically adult Legos.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wPpQHx

To give an idea how much money I saved, the link below is a roughly equivalent system however it has half the amount of ram and a hdd and a ssd that is a quarter the size of my ssd.

http://www.amazon.com/4-0Ghz-Skylake-GeForce-Desktop-Computer/dp/B015HOPZPS

Making up the cost difference, the ssd there costs about 88 dollars. The HDD costs about 50. The extra ram would cost about 40 bucks, and the ssd costs about 300 bucks. All in all I saved around 250 dollars. That's just going by today's prices. Overall because of when I bought, I saved somewhere in the vicinity of 700 dollars.

That's without taking into account such as upgrade possibility, power supply, motherboard quality (something I'm not too well versed in) and so on and so forth.

Then someone above did post a link to another site above for helping to pick out parts, but if that seems daunting this may help.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/the-geek-blog/building-a-new-computer-part-1-choosing-hardware/

The build someone posted above is a very, very good build and if you're going to consider building your own, I'd follow through on what they suggested. I should have thought of this but someone else had mentioned now is a really bad time to be buying a prebuilt system because new stuff is right around the corner, which means price drops.
 

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Initially, when I see someone put up a budget, and then mention Alienware, I just get confused. Those two are mutually exclusive, in terms of getting performance per dollar. Don't get me wrong, I love me Alienware machines and I think they're built and look great, but only if I knew what specs I wanted and didn't care about the price.

Now for something a little more constructive. Specs wise, you'd want something akin to the following:

Hard Disks
An SSD to run your OS and maybe loading-heavy games is ideal. No stream viewer enjoys waiting 5 minutes when transitioning areas in open world games. As big as you can afford, I'd say 120GB if possible.
You will need a few TB of space down the line, video recording and editing eats up space like nobody's business. Thankfully, a 2TB HDD is pretty cheap these days.

Video Card
The crux of any gaming rig, especially for streaming/recording. I'd settle for nothing less than a GTX970. It eats up a lot of your budget, but whatever, you need the horsepower here if anywhere.

RAM
AFAIK, and have tested, the quicker, expensive, low latency RAM doesn't do much. Just get as much as you can in there, nothing less than 8GB (aim for 12GB)

CPU
People will tell you i7 for the video editing. I say you can drop it to an i5 and get as much performance as you need. Heck, my i5 is generations old, I play games on ultra and record/edit videos without a hitch. My friend with an i7 and the same RAM and slightly inferior GFX card didn't show much improvement over my rendering times. I'm not even overclocked.

Motherboard
This one is really more about durability. A trusted brand will go a longer way (usually). Just find the one with the features/PCI/RAM slots you need and fit the budget. You may want to fork out for DDR4, for easier upgrades down the line if you plan to do that rather than buy another outright machine. I find most onboard audio does the job nowadays, unless you're specifically looking for good 7.1 surround or whatever. Even then, there are many decent outboard USB solutions, especially when it comes to recording, when you don't want to weigh down your system internal resources too much.

The rest is pretty easy. Optical drives, cases, just go with whatever is cost effective and necessary. For podcasting, you'll need a good mic. Padding up your room to reduce echo also can make a cheaper mic sound a LOT better. Decent headset and mic also help, try to go for a reputed brand that streamers you follow use, a lot of them have their setups to see equipment and specs on youtube as well.